Canada General Discussion

[DC Al Fine]

Doug Ford will seek a PC nomination in the next provincial election. I hope he fails.

http://toronto.ctvnews.ca/wynne-welcomes-ford-s-challenge-but-no-election-looming-1.1222365

Which riding would he run in?

[RogueBeaver]

Liberal Senator's husband put $1.7 million in an offshore account while battling with Revenue Canada.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2013/04/03/merchant-offshore-trust.html

Mulcair wants socialism expunged from the NDP's constitutional preamble.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/04/03/ndp-ponders-deleting-socialism-from-its-guiding-statement

A Goldman Sachs Obama bundler will be the next US Ambassador.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2013/04/03/pol-us-ambassador-to-canada-obama.html

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Mulcair wants socialism expunged from the NDP's constitutional preamble.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/04/03/ndp-ponders-deleting-socialism-from-its-guiding-statement

Trying to be something of a Tom Mulblair then?

[RogueBeaver]

As the article says, not entirely. Anyways the NDP's preamble and constitution are hardly common knowledge, unlike Clause 4. Plus they've long ditched the policies which jive with the original- thanks to Layton.

Here's the current one.

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Proposed new one:

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[Hatman 🍁]

That's rather sh*tty. Why not just replace socialism with social democracy?

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That's rather sh*tty. Why not just replace socialism with social democracy?

It's too wordy for floating voters.

[RogueBeaver]

I doubt non-junkies have ever heard of the NDP's constitution. Either way not a huge deal, plus the Montreal convention where the change will take place is going to be held on the 14th.

[MaxQue]

That's rather sh*tty. Why not just replace socialism with social democracy?

Because people thought a fit when it was attempted at Vancouver in 2011. Now, they keep the work socialism, but get rid of all marxist vocabulary.

Anyways, who reads the NDP convention?

Earl, why you oppose it? I'm interested to hear as I'll be at the convention and will have to most probably vote on it.

[Hatman 🍁]

That's rather sh*tty. Why not just replace socialism with social democracy?

Because people thought a fit when it was attempted at Vancouver in 2011. Now, they keep the work socialism, but get rid of all marxist vocabulary.

Anyways, who reads the NDP convention?

Earl, why you oppose it? I'm interested to hear as I'll be at the convention and will have to most probably vote on it.

It doesn't read as being very "constitutional".

Semantics, I suppose. Have fun at the convention, btw. They're a lot of fun. Despite it being just 2 hours down the road, this will be the first one I've missed in quite some time.

[RogueBeaver]

Boulerice in hot water for some Marxist WWI stuff he wrote 6 years ago.

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2013/04/09/les-conservateurs-condamnent-les-propos-dalexandre-boulerice

In other news, this RBC outsourcing thing is getting some traction.

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2013/04/10/andrew-coyne-rbc-outsourcing-controversy-an-economic-fraud/

Boulerice is not backing down from his blog post. Wonder what happens when Mulcair returns from overseas.

http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/politics/archives/2013/04/20130410-161430.html

NDP convention this weekend: Mulcair's softer side. I guess this is Sweater Vest, Orange Edition?

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/04/10/thomas-mulcair-family-personal-life_n_3054311.html

[Hatman 🍁]

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Boulerice's comments make him an epic freedom fighter. I didn't know it was illegal to hold critical historical perspectives from the accepted 'norm', though from this government I'm not shocked. How about we go through what some Purgatories might have written in their earlier days. Probably some much more serious stuff than a Marxist perspective on World War I.

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What's the general perception of Mulcair? Potential PM or not?

[Hatman 🍁]

What's the general perception of Mulcair? Potential PM or not?

People don't really know him that well. I don't think he will become PM, as Trudeaumania is going to hit and either (unlikely) propel the Liberals to first place, or (more likely) put the Liberals in 2nd or boost them enough to "split the vote" with the NDP. By split the vote, I mean the quasi-progressive anti-Harper/anti-Conservative vote. I wouldn't call it a split myself due to the strong ideological differences between the two parties. 

[Peter the Lefty]

So what's up with this whole Boulerice-WWI controversy?  Is it actually taboo to criticize that war up there?

[RogueBeaver]

Here are our first anti-JT ads. Fairly mild stuff. Apparently running in the Atlantic region for now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qKps7uG6eM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGWuN3ZVuxU&feature=youtu.be

The ad's context.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=905697

[DC Al Fine]

Makes sense. Atlantic Canada is where the biggest Tory/Liberal swing has occurred.

[minionofmidas - supplemental forum account]

He's also a threat to the NDP, so when are you guys putting up your own ads?

Much better to let the other two slug it out.

[RogueBeaver]

JT hit the tariff hike, PM said we've cut them overall and that Liberals voted against the budgets that did it. Of course the PM governs as a conservative populist rather than vice-versa... but before that Mulcair hit Harper on RBC.

[Hatman 🍁]

Semi decent ads, but not as good as we've seen from the Tories. They were at least amusing.

He's also a threat to the NDP, so when are you guys putting up your own ads?

Much better to let the other two slug it out.

Indeed. The NDP will be attacking the governing party. We will try to ignore the Liberals, as attacking them gives them legitimacy. We want to show Canadians that we're the best party to oppose Harper. You can't do that by attacking the wrong guy.

[MaxQue]

We have nothing to gain attacking Liberals ourselves.

[RogueBeaver]

Looks like Redford is in trouble within her own party. I bet they keep her.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/premier-redford-facing-strife-from-within-alberta-pcs/article11253238/

[DC Al Fine]

We have nothing to gain attacking Liberals ourselves.

In Quebec you do. There's no point of going after the Tories there and they, along with the Bloc will be your main competition for seats.

[RogueBeaver]

The NDP doesn't want to give the impression that JT's a political threat. I doubt the opposition parties engage each other- they're only hitting Harper- for some time, and at any rate QC is way too volatile to predict.

[MaxQue]

We have nothing to gain attacking Liberals ourselves.

In Quebec you do. There's no point of going after the Tories there and they, along with the Bloc will be your main competition for seats.

Quebec is Quebec, it's useless to attack people two years before election. People tend to swing largely on current events, not their first impression of 2 years ago.