Canada General Discussion

[DC Al Fine]

Just got back from a Tory event. Our candidate in Halifax West will be seeking the nomination provincially in Timberlea-Prospect, which was an NDP safe seat, but based more on personal votes than demographics. This solves an awkward problem. Dr. Pretty got re-districted out of our riding but wanted to run again federally.

[DC Al Fine]

EKOS out: LPC 30, CPC 28, NDP 24. So JT's honeymoon was shorter than Iggy's. LOL.

What ridiculously high number does EKOS have the Greens at?

[DC Al Fine]

EKOS out: LPC 30, CPC 28, NDP 24. So JT's honeymoon was shorter than Iggy's. LOL.

What ridiculously high number does EKOS have the Greens at?

Forgetting about a party called the BQ?

Who?

[DC Al Fine]

FYI, orders came down from party headquarters to be ready for the writ to drop by next week. Apparently we're going to have a summer campaign.

[DC Al Fine]

Baillie says Tories are ready for election call

All but 3 candidates nominated, and the 3 seats left are ones we don't have a hope in hell of winning. Kind of expecting an election call today, but nothing yet.

[DC Al Fine]

Ugh, more crap from hardened malcontents.

Is this Red Tories or right wingers pissed about him being insufficiently right wing?

[DC Al Fine]

Why wasn't Hudak dumped after the last election anyway? This is what I don't understand.

The PC result wasn't good when you consider the lead they had before the campaign and it became about McGuinty Vs Hudak. And from what I gather, voters weren't exactly head-over-heels for Dalton.

Typically in Canada if you pick up the pieces after a landslide defeat you get two kicks at the can. Hudak's predecessor was the exception because he followed up a landslide asskicking.... with another landslide asskicking.

[DC Al Fine]

Anyways, when is this NS election supposed to  happen? DC, you've given us false information!

Spent the last week running around helping the campaign get ready for an "IMMINENT ELECTION" and all for nothing

On another note, the Greens are only aiming for a half slate this time around, and the Atlantica Party is aiming to run 5-10 as independents. Also a member of Occupy is running as an independent in my riding... Occupy people really like my neighbourhood for some reason.

[DC Al Fine]

What is the Atlantica Party?

Soft libertarians. They also want the Atlantic provinces to merge, hence the name.

[DC Al Fine]

What is the Atlantica Party?

Soft libertarians. They also want the Atlantic provinces to merge, hence the name.

Oh. They shouldn't merge; in fact I would split them up further: Cape Breton and Acadia should become provinces and Labrador should become a territory. Of course, I would split up other provinces too- but that's a different story.

How would you define Acadia?

[DC Al Fine]

What is the Atlantica Party?

Soft libertarians. They also want the Atlantic provinces to merge, hence the name.

Oh. They shouldn't merge; in fact I would split them up further: Cape Breton and Acadia should become provinces and Labrador should become a territory. Of course, I would split up other provinces too- but that's a different story.

How would you define Acadia?

Francophone New Brunswick. It wouldn't exactly be contiguous, mind you- and perhaps parts of Nova Scotia might want to join as well.

Then it'd be really messed up geographically

Couillard will run in Roberval at the next election.

That's a risky bet.

I imagine if he wins the election, he'll take take the seat, but it's hardly safe. They couldn't find a Montreal MNA who wants to retire?

[DC Al Fine]

The 308 has it's Nova Scotia model ready to go.

Current Projection:
Liberal: 44.7%, 28 seats
NDP: 25.8%, 13 seats
PC: 25.8%, 10 seats
Green: 3.0%, 0 seats

Roughly what's expected. Also the Liberals will have a b*tch of a time winning a majority if they do much worse than 45%.

[DC Al Fine]

Just took a look at the seat by seat results. Pretty typical stuff. Liberals gain a lot, NDP lose a lot, Tories gain and lose and basically break even. Personally I think the NDP are too weak in Halifax and too strong in the rural areas, but whatever.

Also the NDP are supposed to win Cumberland North... WTF?!?! It's a safe Tory seat. MLA gets arrested for drunk driving/fleeing the scene of a car crash, runs independently and the right wingers lose on vote splits during a record breaking year for the NDP. Obviously a prime candidate for the NDP to hold when they're sh**tting the bed

[DC Al Fine]

And here's a projection map

[DC Al Fine]

I think he used the redistributed by-election results. Inverness would've been much closer if he hadn't.

[DC Al Fine]

Roughly the same as Rogue Beaver.

[DC Al Fine]

I'm thinking 60-40 for the pull being plugged in the Spring. What do you guys think about Quebec?

Spring. Liberals wants an election this fall, but, with municipal elections, it's not really possible except in December.

However, I doubt very much than next Marois' budget will pass. So, spring.

Yay, it's been months since I had a good campaign to follow.

[DC Al Fine]

NS Tories have a new ad running

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYHatTTD4o8

[DC Al Fine]

FFS PQ. Price controls? In 2013?

Well the separatists have never been known for their competence in economics.

[DC Al Fine]

FFS PQ. Price controls? In 2013?

Well the separatists have never been known for their competence in economics.

It's not as if the Liberals were any better. As least PQ reached balanced budget.

Touche

Did anyone really expect Marois to not be a train wreck?

She is better than Charest.

Lol no, her anti-Anglo pandering is disgusting

[DC Al Fine]

If there's one thing the last thirty years of Canadian politics have taught us, it's that there's really, really, really no point in bothering with polls in Canada until an election is actually called.

Sigged

[DC Al Fine]

Any chance of recruiting Rob Ford to run in Montreal?

Hatman said that Trudeau's drug use would help him in Quebec.... Rob Ford uses drugs ergo he would be a good Quebec Tory

[DC Al Fine]

Bachand will announce his retirement from politics today. No surprise since it was leadership or bust for him. Meanwhile Couillard is planning to raise the QST, which is already the country's highest provincial sales tax at 9.75%. Making the PLQ attempt to out-left the PQ even more laughable. Cause God forbid they cut spending instead of raising taxes.

To be fair, he wants to raise the QST to lower income tax. Obviously, that's an right-wing idea since that will lead the lower and middle classes to pay more tax, while the wealthy will pay less, since QST, like all sales tax, is a flat regressive tax.

FTFY?

[DC Al Fine]

Question for the dippers out there? How come the CCF/NDP never found the success that their labourist counterparts elsewhere did until 2011? Was the Canadian electorate too right wing, the CCF/NDP too left wing or were the Liberals more competent than their UK counterparts?

[DC Al Fine]

And much can happen in two years, beyond Mulcair's control. Currently, the Liberals are bouyed by Trudeau's popularity, but that shine may well come off, and there is very little depth beyond the image. A by-election in a Liberal seat, especially one that will be hard to retain (a Goodale retirement, for example) and the media will spin it as the honeymoon being over, and if non-conservative voters get a feel that the NDP has the better chance at forming government, or at least knocking off Harper, the polls will move quickly and there will be the stampede for the exits. That sort of a thing could happen without Mulcair setting the agenda.

Agreed. This would also have the benefit of forcing blue liberals to acknowledge that the NDP might form government which might give the Tories a small boost.