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hcallega
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« on: November 06, 2011, 12:07:49 PM »

Not to be a Negative Nancy, but there is just about a 0% chance that John F. Kennedy would select his brother to be his running-mate. There are several reasons why. First of all, it would severely hurt his chances at reelection due to nepotism. Second, it would frustrate Southern Democrats who wanted Johnson on the ticket. Third, and most importantly, there was simply no need to do it. It would be like Bill Clinton running with Hillary. Bobby was always going to be Jack's closest confidant and adviser. No need to stir the political waters. If Jack had survived, he probably would have kept LBJ on the ticket and won reelection easily. At that point, he appoints Dean Rusk to the UN job to replace an ailing Adlai Stevenson, promotes McNamara to State, and then moves Bobby to the DOD job. Katzenbach becomes Attorney General. Bobby then runs for a Massachusetts or New York position sometime in the late '60s or early '70s, and runs for President later (presumably).
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hcallega
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« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2011, 03:12:46 PM »

So does LBJ get the nod in 1968, anyway I am responding to previous proposition that LBJ died on March 3 1964, so if he does, who does JFK offer the vice-presidency to? if not RFK, who? Terry Sanford of North Carolina or George Smathers of Florida?

Those are usually the accepted LBJ replacements. I go with Sanford just because of Smathers' affairs and thus, being too much like Jack. It might be too much to put two people on the same ticket, both of which could risk the affairs somehow being leaked.

It could really go either way. Smathers was one of Kennedy's best friends when he was in the Senate. His affairs wouldn't really be a turnoff to Jack, as the media didn't report on politicians personal lives at the time. Even if they did, LBJ was an adulterer as well. Smathers was also sufficiently conservative to woo Southerners. Sanford was viewed as somewhat of a traitor to the South due to his liberal civil rights views. But according to JFK's secretary, Sanford was going to be chosen over LBJ in 1964 anyway. I doubt that he would have gone through with it, but if LBJ's dead, then he might be the one.

If Sanford is Jack's runningmate, then he's the frontrunner in '68 and probably wins the nomination. He has a good chance at winning in November, unless the Republicans nominate someone like Rockefeller who had appeal across the political board. Smathers would be challenged by HHH, splitting the party along regional lines. If that happens, Humphrey probably wins the nomination but loses in November due to a Wallace candidacy.
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