"Who would fictional characters vote for?" omnibus thread

[libertpaulian]

Grace and Frankie characters.

Main Cast:

Grace: Definitely Warren.
Frankie: Sanders.  Who else?!
Robert: Buttigieg.
Sol: Sanders.
Brianna: Warren, but only because Harris dropped out.
Mallory: Klobuchar.
Coyote: Biden.
Bud: Biden.

[Dr. MB]

Noticed some Breaking Bad posted from like, 2012. So here’s my take with some Better Call Saul added in.

Walter White: I think it’s pretty safe to say that Walter before he became Heisenberg was a Republican. His refusal to accept handouts or charity is his defining character trait early on in the show. Couple that in with some dropped hints (like telling Gretchen and Elliott “call it liberal guilt”) and I think you’ve got it. There are a couple factors against this though (1. Him being a teacher and 2. He’s got a PhD) but the people with postgraduate degrees didn’t vote as strongly Democratic in 2008 as they do now. So I’d say he voted McCain in 2008. Now later on in the show of course I don’t see him voting Republican. Libertarian if he does vote at all.

Jesse Pinkman: There’s no chance in hell that Jesse votes. But if he did he’d be on the left. Obama-Obama-Sanders-Sanders is my guess. Same for his friends.

Skyler White: Pretty sure Skyler voted for Obama. I just can’t picture her as a Republican. She’d hate Trump.

Hank Schrader: The guy with the most Trumpian personality on the show. Plus he’s a cop. Definitely the safest bet for a Republican.

Marie Schrader: In a way she’s even more “law and order” than Hank. She’s pushed him to act outside the law and freaked out about Walter Jr’s fake pot smoking more than anyone else in the family. Afraid of the Mexicans in El Paso. She votes Republican and she voted for Trump.

Steve Gomez: Unlike the actor who plays him, Gomie’s probably more of a Republican just cause he’s a DEA agent. Hank’s occasional racist jokes don’t seem to bother him much. McCain-Romney-Trump.

Jane Margolis: I think Jane does vote unlike Jesse. She knew who Jesse Jackson and Georgia O’Keefe were. Anyway it’s pretty clear she leans to the left, probably pretty far left. Would be a fan of Bernie Sanders.

Saul Goodman: Saul has the Hillgoose mindset at heart. He doesn’t care about politics as long as he makes money. Even though he’s a lawyer I doubt he votes, but if he did it would probably be for Libertarians or random third party candidates.

Gale Boetticher: Had a Ron Paul sticker in his notebook. Enough said.

Gustavo Fring: He’s probably pretty knowledgeable about politics just to stay one step ahead of the authorities at all times. But he won’t waste his time on voting. They’re all the same in his view.

Mike Ehrmantraut: Too cynical to care about politics, gave up on that back when he was a cop in Philly. Similar mindset to Gus I’d think.

Walter White Jr: Too young to vote in the show but he’d be an adult now. Anyway he idolizes his uncle Hank and usually shows a lot of respect for law enforcement (except for the 1 time he was busted trying to buy beer). I think he’d be a swing voter though. Maybe leaning a little to the right.

Chuck McGill: Chuck’s whole persona is respect for the law. He’s tied with Walter for smartest character in the BB universe, so he obviously knows his stuff. He’s also a huge elitist. As for who he votes for I think only one thing is really clear - he isn’t very partisan. Probably leans to the center but I’d think he values candidates who are smart and have a lot of political experience. He’d hate Trump.

Kim Wexler: Kim would definitely be a Democrat. I think her life story gives her some sympathy for poor and underprivileged people - and she’s got more of a moral conscience than Saul does.

Howard Hamlin: Inherited the lawfirm and money that his dad built. Bit of a holier-than-thou attitude. He’s a Republican. I’m not so sure Howard would vote Trump but I think he’s more likely to than not.

The Cartel: Hector, Lalo, Tuco, Don Eladio, Bolsa. They vote for whoever turns a blind eye to them. Enough said.

[Dr. MB]

Ron: McCain, Johnson, Johnson

Why would Ron vote? That's unnecessary information he's giving the government.

[NewYorkExpress]

Tony Stark -- Bloomberg
Steve Rogers -- Warren
Bruce Banner -- Bernie
Natasha Romanoff -- Klobuchar
Clint Barton -- Biden
Nick Fury -- N/A (dusted)
Stephen Strange -- N/A (dusted)
Carol Danvers -- Warren
Scott Lang -- N/A (Quantum Realm)
Hope van Dyne -- N/A (dusted)

I love how we're presuming as if people like Biden, Trump etc. wouldn't also be dusted: Thanos did wipe out half of all life.

Also, I thought Carol Danvers gave up her U.S citzenship when she decided to wander space as Captain Marvel?

Finally, of the Avengers listed (who weren't dusted/trapped in the quantum realm)...I really can't see Steve Rogers voting for Elizabeth Warren. I think he'd decide that Captain America wouldn't back a specific Presidential candidate, and just not vote.

[RINO Tom]

Game of Thrones-
2016
Season 8 Characters

Jon Snow: Hillary
Daenerys: Hillary
Cersei Lannister: Trump
Jaime Lannister: Trump
Tyrion Lannister: Hillary (Bernie in the primary)
Sansa Stark: Hillary
Arya Stark: Doesn't vote
Bran Stark: Write-in
Varys: Write-in (Bernie in the primary)
Brienne of Tarth: Hillary

Good people support my candidate! Bad people support the other candidate!

You damn well know he's right about Cersei and Jaime Lannister being Trump supporters.

Okay, but why would Jon Snow vote for Hillary?  He's a White man with no college education whose entire career is in the military and grew up in a rural mansion with a ton of family money, lol.

[John Dule]

Okay, but why would Jon Snow vote for Hillary?  He's a White man with no college education whose entire career is in the military and grew up in a rural mansion with a ton of family money, lol.

To be fair, he spends the last two seasons of the show simping for a stiff, aloof blonde woman who inexplicably manages to command fierce loyalty despite her completely wooden personality.

[RINO Tom]

Okay, but why would Jon Snow vote for Hillary?  He's a White man with no college education whose entire career is in the military and grew up in a rural mansion with a ton of family money, lol.

To be fair, he spends the last two seasons of the show simping for a stiff, aloof blonde woman who inexplicably manages to command fierce loyalty despite her completely wooden personality.

Touche, this was top notch, haha.

[P. Clodius Pulcher did nothing wrong]

I think it's very hard to translate people from a feudal society into our modern understanding of politics. I think almost all the major characters in ASOIAF would be offended by the prospect of the smallfolk electing their leaders at all, including our "good" noble-family characters.

[𝕭𝖆𝖕𝖙𝖎𝖘𝖙𝖆 𝕸𝖎𝖓𝖔𝖑𝖆]

I know that putting 16th-century characters into our contemporary understanding of politics is way beyond absurd, but I want to do The Taming of the Shrew just because I can.
I'll try to approximate characters to the 21st century. I'll also be very wrong.

Petruchio: Uh oh. A sly, fierce, proud young man who is a male chauvinist. I imagine him as the guy whose view of Trump would be MORE favorable after the Access Hollywood tape, but I also believe his love for Katherina is sincere. Safe Trump -> Safe Trump.

Katherina Minola: Actually not all commentators think that her final speech about female submissiveness is sincere. Anyway, she basically goes from hardcore feminist to suburban housewife. Unabashed Clinton voter -> shy Biden voter.

Bianca Minola: Well-mannered and obedient, but also subtle. I imagine her as the type who has been writing "I stand with BLM" on Instagram since June, but has an inner Karen/Becky very few people know. Too young to vote in 2016 -> leaning Biden mostly to hop on the bandwagon.

Gremio: Old lascivious man. He would be an extremely conservative, racist and sexist person now. Safe Trump -> Safe Trump.

Lucentio: Basically a liberal arts student who does everything he can to woo and marry Bianca, with all sorts of tricks. He would be not much interested in politics, but I see him as (Sanders) -> no vote -> (Sanders) -> Biden.

Hortensio: He gets conned by Lucentio and Petruchio and in the end marries a widow. I want to imagine him as an angry young man who swings between Ben Shapiro and Alex Jones.

Grumio and Tranio: Both are cunning manservants in the tradition of Plautus's tricky slaves. I don't know how they can be approximated in the 21st century if not as lower-class roommates of respectively Petruchio and Lucentio who do all the household chores in order to be given money by them. Somehow I see them as Libertarian trolls (who prefer Dems to the GOP).

And finally, Baptista Minola: He would be an overprotective dad with strict rules about dating for his daughters. Republican for Biden?



And now you know where I took my username from. It's not because I like the character particularly, but because I like very much the idea of a Shakespeare character with an Italian name and also surname. Yes, I guess I could have chosen Romeo Montecchi but that is too obvious.

[Wake Me Up When The Hard Border Ends]

For 2020 obviously - I've watched a LOT of TV during isolation:

Brooklyn Nine-Nine:
Jake: Biden, admits to not voting in 2016 despite being all #imwithher
Rosa: Biden
Terry: Biden
Amy: Biden, and is set for Harris in 2024.
Boyle: Biden (as Jake's voting for him)
Gina: Biden, but is on Twitter and Instagram trying to peel off Trump voters
Raymond: Biden
Kevin: Biden
Hitchcock: Trump (says things like fake news and c-ck)
Scully: Jorgensen

All In The Family
Archie - Trump (duh)
Edith - Biden, but doesn't tell Archie.
Gloria - Biden, but wanted Warren
Mike - Hawkins
Lionel - Biden
Louise - Biden
George - Trump
The Lorenzos - Biden

Family Ties
Steve: Biden
Elyse: Biden
Alex: Writes-in John Kasich (can't stand Trump)
Mallory: Doesn't vote
Jen: Biden?

South Park:
Stan: Biden
Kyle: Biden
Cartman: Trump (or should I say Garrison haha)
Kenny: Jorgensen
Butters: Whoever his parents tell him to vote for.

Married... with Children
Al: Doesn't vote (is only xenophobic against the French, only votes if something directly affects him, plus would NEVER vote for a woman.
Peggy: Biden
Kelly: Trump (has the hots for one of the younger Trumps), but more likely doesn't vote
Bud: Biden (most likely to vote out of the main four)
Marcy: Biden, but still raging that Clinton lost 2016.
Steve: Biden
Jefferson: Doesn't vote

King of the Hill
Hank: Writes-in Jeb Bush or Greg Abbott - Hank would be aghast against Trump's personality/some of his policies, and his coronavirus response.
Peggy: Not sure
Bobby: Biden
Luanne: Trump (see Kelly Bundy)
Lucky: Whoever gives him pee-pee money
Dale: Doesn't vote
Bill: Trump (military)
Boomhauer: Jorgensen

Till Death Us Do Part (UK 2019)
Alf - Brexit Party, UKIP, BNP, or writes Tommy Robinson on the ballot, depending on where he lives. There is NO WAY Alf Garnett would vote for a Tory government with the likes of Sajid Javid or Priti Patel in it.
Else - Depends on how she feels about the EU - Tory maybe?
Rita - Labour (can see her voting Remain)
Mike - Green or Labour (he'd want to reform the EU to make it more socialist, but would favour leaving the EU in its current form)

[Bootes Void]

Modern Family (Alright show but gets a bit boring after a couple of seasons except for halloween episodes)

Phil Dunphy-Undecided, leans toward Biden
Claire Dunphy-Biden
Alex Dunphy-Biden
Haley Dunphy-no idea if she votes but if she does it will be Biden
Luke Dunphy- doesnt vote
Gloria Pritchett- I have no idea if shes a citizen, if she is then Biden easily
Mitchell Pritchett-Biden
Cam Tucker-Biden

[7,052,770]

Mickey Mouse: Biden all along
Minnie Mouse: Warren -> Biden
Donald Duck: Big Trump fanboy
Daisy Duck: #NeverTrump Republican
Goofy: Sanders -> Biden

[bagelman]

Butters: Whoever his parents tell him to vote for.

Safe Trump. In the unlikely scenario where his parents convert to Biden, Cartman will get in his head and keep him on the Trump train.

What I want to see is a collective reaction from the town at large when they realize that Colorado is not Tossup, or Lean D, or Likely D, but Safe D. The town had been at war with itself for the past few months (probably literally in a farcical way) but if they had gone >90% Trump it wouldn't matter because Denver.

[𝕭𝖆𝖕𝖙𝖎𝖘𝖙𝖆 𝕸𝖎𝖓𝖔𝖑𝖆]

Reposting this here as this is the "omnibus" thread:

My attempt at Total Drama Island - notwithstanding that the characters are Canadian and not old enough to vote.

Beth: Biden but has a high likelihood of non-voting
Bridgette: Safe Biden
Cody: Safe Biden
Courtney: GeneralMacArthur-level Titanium Biden
DJ: Safe Biden
Duncan: Too rebellious, probably hates everyone, I say Lean Biden because of the probable insistence of Courtney
Eva: Likely Trump
Ezekiel: Safe Trump lmao he's the poster boy for all the worst stereotypes of Trump voters
Geoff: Biden
Gwen: Safe Biden but she's a doomer about it
Harold: Might be the type who votes Jorgensen or Hawkins just to be a contrarian
Heather: Likely Trump
Izzy: So crazy that she might vote Kanye, but more likely Jorgensen
Justin: I think Trump but probably doesn't care to vote
Katie and Sadie: Tossup. Of course they vote the same, and probably flip their preference continually over stupid sh!t in the news
Leshawna: Safe Biden
Lindsay: Lmao she doesn't even know what a president is
Noah: Hahahahah voting is for losers
Owen: Likely Biden
Trent: Safe Biden
Tyler: Biden I guess but probably doesn't vote

I stand by it but after seeing the election pan out I'd say:
Duncan in the end would have voted for Trump;
Katie and Sadie for Biden;
Harold for Hawkins;
Izzy for Jorgensen.

[H. Ross Peron]

Taxi Driver edition

Travis Bickle: Despite having minimal interest in politics, Betsy did persuade him to vote for Jimmy Carter in the general election in November. Continuing resentment about crime as well as the Iranian Hostage Crisis drove him right, leading him to vote for Reagan twice followed by George HW Bush. Bickle voted for Perot in 1992 due to disappointment with Bush over the post-Cold War recession but skipped the following two Presidential elections not being impressed by Clinton, Dole, or George W Bush. He did enthusiastically back Giuliani's efforts to clean up New York City despite a nostalgic pang at the disappearance of the pornographic cinemas around Times Square. Bickle experiences 9/11 on a very personal level, being down in Lower Manhattan on the morning of the attacks while getting a meal at the end of his shift. The sight of the burning Twin Towers as well as thousands of ash covered people fleeing from the attacks are forever seared into his brain. Bickle becomes ardently Islamophobic and seriously considers shooting up a mosque before the presence of NYPD cops seeing a suspicious character dissuades him. This bigotry is not helped by the resentment he feels at immigrant taxi drivers, many of whom come from the Middle East or South Asia. He is an enthusiastic supporter of the Iraq War and frequently proclaims his support for George W. Bush in the lead up in the 2004 election. Eventually his Islamophobic tendencies ebb somewhat due to befriending Muslim taxi drivers while his opinion of Bush sours after Iraq becomes a quagmire seeing parallels to his own Vietnam experience. Bickle ends up voting for Obama in the 2008 election, especially when the Great Recession begins to affect his taxi business. The next several years prove a trying time for Bickle as the taxi business suffers serious competition from Uber and by 2015 an aging Bickle is forced into working as a Uber driver. Having ignored the 2012 election, Bickle is overjoyed at Donald Trump's candidacy, having picked him up a few times in Trump's Eighties heyday and having agreed with each other about the guilt of the Central Park Five. Trump's message of "Make America Great Again" and his picture of a country threatened by crime, illegal immigration, foreign trade, and unnecessary wars deeply resonates with Bickle. Bickle registers as a Republican and votes for Trump in his first primary vote since 1976. He makes little secret of his support for Trump in the general election and frequently praises him to his passengers often to their anger and resentment. Bickle continued to wear his MAGA hat for the next few years as he looked forward to his retirement on his 70th birthday in 2021. The Covid pandemic with the resulting loss of business, lockdowns, and unrest related to BLM and demands for defunding the police, however, brought back his worst nightmares of crime-ridden Seventies New York. Oddly enough, Bickle's own direct experience with human traffickers led him to discount QAnon conspiracy theories as blatantly absurd though he was fully convinced that Jeffrey Epstein was murdered. Bickle's paranoia and anger reached levels not seen in decades and having bought firearms, openly toyed with the idea of assassinating certain prominent left-wing members of Congress in New York. Naturally Bickle was devastated on Election Day and was fully convinced that fraud had occurred. In January 2021, Bickle traveled to Washington DC and heard Trump speak near the Capitol which convinced him to participate in the mob that stormed Congress. Bickle was arrested hours later with weapons on his person and is currently awaiting trial on various criminal charges.

Iris: Continued having emotional problems due to her memories of being underage prostitute and witnessing multiple murders, Iris had a "born again" experience and became a devout Evangelical Christian in her late teens. Eventually became involved in anti-trafficking activism in Evangelical circles and wrote a book about her experiences. Until 2000, she was mostly (at least openly) apolitical despite her devout beliefs though she generally voted for Republicans. However, Iris's social conservatism led her to becoming a strong Bush supporter and increasingly involved in Republican politics. She campaigned for Huckabee in 2008 and then Santorum in 2012 before supporting Ted Cruz in 2016. Naturally had very conflicting feelings about Donald Trump but ended up voting for him in November  seeing a slight resemblance to Travis Bickle. Naturally Trump's pro-Evangelical policies transformed her from a reluctant to enthusiastic Trump supporter, something reinforced by her belief in Jeffrey Epstein conspiracy theories though she rejected QAnon theories due to it being absurd to someone who had been a child prostitute herself. Also like Bickle, Iris was convinced the 2020 election was stolen and she ended up running into him again in the storming of the Capitol though she avoided arrest. Currently leading an effort to raise a legal defense fund for Bickle.

Betsy: Remained involved in New York Democratic Party politics after her work for the Palantine campaign. Moved somewhat to the centre and often participated in pro-choice activism. She frequently worked for Hillary Clinton from her 2000 Senate campaign onwards and in 2016 she was a regional organizer for her Presidential campaign. Strongly involved in Resistance activism afterwards and backed Buttigieg in the 2020 primaries. Worked on Biden's general election campaign as well as Max Rose's unsuccessful re-election run.

Tom: Moved on from politics to software engineering after 1976. Supported Anderson in 1980, but otherwise was something of a bellwether voter until 2016 (though he backed Gore in 2000) due to his mixture of socially liberal and fiscally conservative views. Disliked Trump however and ended up  supporting Gary Johnson in 2016. Obviously voted for Biden in 2020.

Carl Palantine: Still alive at the age of 91 and something of an Elder Statesman in the Democratic Party. Strongly identified with the progressive wing of the party, giving endorsements for Obama in 2008 and Bernie Sanders in both 2016 and 2020.

[𝕭𝖆𝖕𝖙𝖎𝖘𝖙𝖆 𝕸𝖎𝖓𝖔𝖑𝖆]

I know that putting 16th-century characters into our contemporary understanding of politics is way beyond absurd, but I want to do The Taming of the Shrew just because I can.
I'll try to approximate characters to the 21st century. I'll also be very wrong.

I want to bring this back but using the 2022 Italian election because after all the play is set in Padua. I guess this version will use slightly different vibes.

Baptista is a wealthy and very conservative professional so he seems like an obvious FdI voter. Bianca definitely voted Azione/Italia Viva because her personality suggests shallow, performative liberalism, while Katherina as a rebel from this sort of family starts as a Green-Left voter but after her taming she presumably adopts Petruchio's politics... and Petruchio is the male chauvinist we all know but also a fairly well-off (and presumably educated) young man so I get the feeling he might vote Azione. Lucentio is a vain liberal arts student so he goes for AVS, or in any case definitely the centre-left coalition. Grumio and Tranio as I mentioned in my original post are hard to fit in the contemporary world but the characterization I used means they'd likely go for the M5S. Gremio is an unpleasant old man lusting after women less than half his age, which makes him almost too obvious a fan of Berlusconi, although I can see him even better choosing Lega in particular. Hortensio is a complete loser so of course he votes PD.

[Samof94]

Dr Who Series 1
2005 election UK
Nine- Lib Dem
Rose- Labour
Jackie- Lib Dem or Con
Mickey- Labour
Jack Harkness-not eligible due to being an American

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Jackie- Lib Dem or Con

wtf

[HisGrace]

Two years old but there's no way Travis Bickle was going to live long enough to be involved in half the stuff being discussed there. Not to mention he seemed completely apolitical, he didn't even seem aware a presidential election was going on until Betsy tells him about it and he can't think of a single issue to talk about when he actually meets Palantine. Wanting to murder the thugs in his neighborhood is not an "issue". All he does is mindlessly drive around and hang out in porno theaters.

[Samof94]

Jackie- Lib Dem or Con

wtf

How would she vote then?(Jackie Tyler)

[𝕭𝖆𝖕𝖙𝖎𝖘𝖙𝖆 𝕸𝖎𝖓𝖔𝖑𝖆]

Continuing the series of Shakespeare plays set in Veneto with Othello.

Othello updated to the 21st century came up in a different thread and Nathan described him as "a Luciana Lamorgese-esque unideological center-left-adjacent national security institutionalist" which feels correct; this probably means PD although at the time I was tempted to put him with Calenzi. Desdemona should have the same opinions of her husband; the very fact that she married an Arab Muslim after falling in love with his life story makes me think she would be repulsed by the radical right. Iago is a resentful racist junior military officer, obvious Lega voter. His wife Emilia goes along with him for the most part but is also cynical and not actually submissive, although my experience suggests this kind of person could also vote Lega or more likely FdI by 2022. Cassio is loyal to Othello, gets played like a fool and everything else about him (Florentine, most interested in theoretical education) also points towards the PD. Cassio's lover Bianca has a minor role but I also imagine her to be a centre-left voter. Roderigo is a profligate wealthy man who is too self-interested to be fully committed to Iago's plan, I'll say he goes for A/IV. Brabantio is an old rich influential politician somewhat prejudiced towards Othello, presumably an ex-DC who then joined Forza Italia. The remaining characters with positions of power, who should approximate to Italian government ministers in the current age, likely share Othello's politics.

[Wiswylfen]

Asuka: Neocon

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Jackie- Lib Dem or Con

wtf

How would she vote then?(Jackie Tyler)

I mean. The entire sociology of the Powell Estates, right down to its geographic location (South London) screams "Labour stronghold". I don't think anything about Jackie's personality or background suggests she'd be an exception, especially not in the Blair era where Labour was winning landslides nationally.

[Wiswylfen]

Jackie- Lib Dem or Con

wtf

How would she vote then?(Jackie Tyler)

I mean. The entire sociology of the Powell Estates, right down to its geographic location (South London) screams "Labour stronghold". I don't think anything about Jackie's personality or background suggests she'd be an exception, especially not in the Blair era where Labour was winning landslides nationally.

I’m on my phone right now and can’t check the exact boundaries but it’s supposed to be in Southwark and so, if it was in North Southwark and Bermondsey, Lib Dem in 2005 would actually make sense—Simon Hughes didn’t do too badly in such places. And I do get ‘working-class Tory’ (or otherwise anti-Labour) vibes from her.

[Atlas Force]

Fastlane:

Van doesn’t vote (except maybe for Obama in 2008), Deaq is a straight-ticket Democrat, and Billie reliably votes for Democrats for President and Congress, but occasionally votes for Republicans at the state and local levels for law-and-order reasons.