Quebec General Election 2012 (4th September)

[MaxQue]

any word on when that by-election will be?

It was called for December 5th.

According to Radio-Canada (http://www.radio-canada.ca/regions/est-quebec/2011/11/02/003-gaspesie-les-iles-bonaventure-elections.shtml)

CAQ won't run a candidate.
Liberal candidate in Damien Arsenault, mayor of the municipality of Saint-Elzéar, 500 inhabitants.
QS candidate Patricia Chartier, staffer of the NDP MP for Gaspésie--Îles-de-la-Madeleine, Philip Toone.
The PQ candidate will be chosen on November 6. Only one person wants to be the PQ candidate right now, Sylvain Roy, sociology teacher in a college at Carleton-sur-Mer and former municipal councillor at Escuminac.
No name from ADQ yet.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

What are the rules? Could I run for the ADQ?

[Хahar 🤔]

What are the rules? Could I run for the ADQ?

You're not a resident of Quebec, so presumably the answer is no.

[lilTommy]

Hidden at the bottom of the recent Leger poll I used to build this.

Would you vote for a provincial NDP?
Total:
YES - 34%
NO - 20%
DUNNO - 46%

PLQ
YES - 29%
NO - 35%

PQ
YES - 34%
NO - 27%

ADQ
YES - 46%
NO - 12%

QS
YES - 44%
NO - 16%



If anyone is interested, let me know, and I'll build an ElectoMatic with a Quebec NDP.

Yes Please!

And I'm dumbfounded that ADQ'rs are more likely then QS'rs to vote QNPD? but PQ politics is all over the map fun
Anyone from Quebec know why there has been no movement to reform a provincial wing (for the third time i think it would be) of the NDP? I know the QS occupies most of the apace the QNPD would (minus the sovereignty thing) but based on those numbers the party should be foaming at the mouth. I understand the membership is pretty thin but given the leadership race with three Quebecers (Saganash, Mulcair and ok Topp too) that should boost the parties presence even more.

CAQ seems to be ADQ lite, less aggressively right-wing, but still taste as bad

[RogueBeaver]

Because the PQ is where most left-wingers park their votes.

[RogueBeaver]

Shocker: PLQ accepts illegal donations.

http://www.cyberpresse.ca/actualites/quebec-canada/politique-quebecoise/201111/02/01-4463867-papiers-fraser-a-verse-4-presumes-dons-illegaux-au-plq.php

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Well, I for one am deeply shocked. I presume that everyone else here is... shocked?

[lilTommy]

Well, I for one am deeply shocked. I presume that everyone else here is... shocked?

Shocked!... that we are only finding out now

[MaxQue]

Indeed. I can't find a word strong enough to describe my shock.

[RogueBeaver]

Okaay... Marois saying that Duceppe can have whatever (subordinate) post he wants.

http://www.ledevoir.com/politique/quebec/335120/en-bref-marois-ouvre-la-porte-a-duceppe

[Peter the Lefty]

So I haven't been able to find much information... Is the CAQ considered a right-wing party? 

[RogueBeaver]

So I haven't been able to find much information... Is the CAQ considered a right-wing party? 

I keep getting this question, so here's a link to their policy papers and everyone can make their own judgment.

http://www.coalitionavenir.org/publications.php

[Hatman 🍁]

Great. What colour are we supposed to use for them on maps? Between the PQ, Liberals and ADQ, it seems every possible shade of red and blue are taken.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Purple? Of course if the ADQ are wiped out then it's not a problem.

[RogueBeaver]

Purple seems the best. There's nothing particularly radical in their proposals. Indeed, I feel vindicated in my judgment of centrist, even centre-left.

EP1: Create a $5 billion fund from general revenue and the Caisse to buy minority stakes in natural resource projects.

EP2: Increase Caisse spending.

EP3: Protect agricultural land to keep it in domestic hands.

EP4: Support the transfer of businesses to next generation and/or employees.

EP5: Encourage Quebecers (presumably through tax credits) to invest in Quebec businesses.

EP6: Tax credits for companies which invest in renewable tech.

EP7: Coordinate with the major pension funds on an international marketing strategy.

EP8: Support the emergence of investment funds that a) allow participation by the general public b) invest in tech.

EP9: Exploit our natural resources.

EP10: 100% of natural resource revenue diverted to debt service.


Health: (100% committed to public system, unlike the openly two-tierish ADQ)

H1: Modify pharmacists' salaries to encourage adoption of more patients (presumably along the carrot/stick formula used for doctors).

H2: Boost numbers of nurses and administrators to help family doctors.

H3: Allow lengthier prescription times and allow pharmacists to issue prescriptions under certain circumstances.

H4: Impose structures that would allow family doctors to ensure continuity of care.

H5: Promote family doctors.


Education:

E1. Increase elementary and secondary school teachers' salaries by 20%.

E2. Abolish all school boards, return most of regional directorates' powers to schools.

E3. Encourage post-secondary institutions to boost enrollment and pool resources.


Language/Culture

LC1. Increase funding for immigrant integration, particularly French-language education.

LC2. Two-year immigration freeze.

LC3. Renegotiate the Ottawa-Quebec immigration accord to allow for 95% family-class immigrants instead of the current 20%.

LC4. Stricter enforcement of the language laws' commercial provisions.

LC5. Improve both English-second-language and French teaching at the post-secondary level.

LC6. Close the loophole that allows for a switch from English-private to English-public for certain Anglo/Allos by invoking Section 33. (notwithstanding clause)

LC7. Major boost in cultural funding.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

CAQ, ADQ, and PQ all use Blue as their primary colour. I could use a dark blue (as the ADQ usually gets standard blue and the PQ light blue, at least on english maps - french maps reverse them for some reason)

I could also use Green since it's not like the Verts are going to be winning a seat anytime soon.

[Hatman 🍁]

308 is using purple, so it might be the colour I'll use. When else has purple been used for Canadian election maps? My 1997 Elections Canada map had the Bloc as purple.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

308 is using purple, so it might be the colour I'll use. When else has purple been used for Canadian election maps? My 1997 Elections Canada map had the Bloc as purple.

Purple generally gets used for new parties The Bloc was "assigned" purple in 1993, and prior to that Quebec Social Credit took a turn in very old documents, etc. Any time the main colours are taken and a new party comes up, it's assigned purple.

Purple is the main un-used colour in Canadian politics which is why the agencies (Elections Canada, Elections Ontario) use it.

[MaxQue]

Greens will run Jean Cloutier, vice-president of the Green Party.
He was the federal Green Candidate in Louis-Saint-Laurent (Québec City) in 2008 and 2011.

He is a public servant and a former member of Bloc executive in Québec-Est and Louis-Saint-Laurent. He also was on the executive of Vanier PQ, founder of the first executive of Vanier ADQ.

He now is in both Green parties.
He also was the spokeperson of the young group of "Progrès Civique de Québec", a candidate for "Action civique de Québec" and was a candidate to be the candidate of "Défi vert de Québec" (Green Challenge of Québec) in the last mayoral election.

All that according to his very lenghly bio on the federal Greens website.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

So I haven't been able to find much information... Is the CAQ considered a right-wing party? 

I keep getting this question, so here's a link to their policy papers and everyone can make their own judgment.

http://www.coalitionavenir.org/publications.php

Also, it does not matter what we think, it only matters what the media tells people.

[RogueBeaver]

So I haven't been able to find much information... Is the CAQ considered a right-wing party? 

I keep getting this question, so here's a link to their policy papers and everyone can make their own judgment.

http://www.coalitionavenir.org/publications.php

Also, it does not matter what we think, it only matters what the media tells people.

A friend of mine had the best line on our (Quebec's) current political mood: we're riding a wind of change for change's sake, regardless of the outcome. Plus the political messiah complex.

[lilTommy]

looks like CAQ will sit on the Centre right-Right if they do what the ADQ would like:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/story/2011/11/08/qc-adq-legault-merger.html

[RogueBeaver]

Centre-left pablum mixed with Blue Toryism? ERROR, DOES NOT COMPUTE.

[MaxQue]

According to Radio-Canada, ADQ candidate in Bonaventure is Georges Painchaud.
He was the liberal candidate in Vachon (southern suburbs of Montreal) for provincial Liberals in 2008.
He was also the leader of the Policemen Fraternity of Montreal (the policemen union in Montreal) from 2001 to 2005.

He lived all his life and still live in Montreal area.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

Could this proposal of an ADQ-CAQ merger help the ADQ in the by-election?