what part of a state would you least like to live in

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Yeah that was my reaction. The worst part is most of those places didn't even exist when I lived there.

But it's all not THAT bad, closer to where my parents live is like here which if you showed me just images of could probably pass for a more residential neighborhood in Minneapolis if it wasn't for most of the houses having driveways and garages and that so few cars are parked on the street. The real problem with Bismarck though is that even near the city center the public transportation is very lousy.

[Wonkish1]

Minnesota: Northern Twin Cities exurbs
Wisconsin: Waukesha County

Do you just prefer to live in poorer areas? Do you just hate wealth?

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Minnesota: Northern Twin Cities exurbs
Wisconsin: Waukesha County

Do you just prefer to live in poorer areas? Do you just hate wealth?

I'm not fond of the cultural markers that tend to go with wealthy areas, suburbs/exurbs, or the coincidence thereof. I grew up in a not-particularly-wealthy rural area, so that's what I'm familiar and comfortable with.

You could argue that I 'hate wealth' in that I view it as a potentially severely spiritually corrupting state (though extreme poverty is also such for different reasons), but that's not the main reason why I don't want to live in those sorts of areas.

[nclib]

Alabama: Birmingham exurbs or west Alabama black belt
Alaska: remote arctic areas
Arizona: Some of the Phoenix exurbs
Arkansas: Bentonville area
California: much of Central Valley
Colorado: eastern CO (the area that resembles the Plains states)
Connecticut: SE Connecticut
Delaware: Sussex county
Florida: Panhandle
Georgia: Cherokee or Forsyth County
Hawaii: the most remote island
Idaho: The southeastern part of the state
Illinois: East St. Louis
Indiana: southern Indiana
Iowa: western Iowa
Kansas: anywhere west of Wichita
Kentucky: southeastern Kentucky
Louisiana: northern LA
Maine: northern, non-coastal Maine
Maryland: Parts of inner-city Baltimore
Massachusetts: parts of Worcester County or Plymouth County
Michigan: downtown Detroit
Minnesota: northern Twin Cities exurbs
Mississippi: dirt-poor Delta area
Missouri: Ozark Methistan
Montana: remote eastern parts
Nebraska: remote west
Nevada: "cow" counties
New Hampshire: The most exurban parts of Hillsborough and Rockingham Counties
New Jersey: Camden
New Mexico: Little Texas
New York: South Bronx
North Carolina: the eastern part not on the coast
North Dakota: western ND
Ohio: Jim Jordan's district
Oklahoma: Oklahoma City exurbs
Oregon: eastern Oregon
Pennsylvania: rural south-central PA
Rhode Island: Washington County
South Carolina: Greenville/Bob Jones area
South Dakota: western SD
Tennessee: Rhea County
Texas: exurban Metroplex
Utah: Utah County
Vermont: Essex County
Virginia: Eric Cantor's district
Washington: WA-4
West Virginia: The southeastern part of the state
Wisconsin: Waukesha County
Wyoming: anywhere away from Teton County, Laramie, and Cheyenne

[TJ in Oregon]

Ohio: Northwest Ohio

Retribution I see

I guess I can see why you might pick this if you really hate industry and cornfields, but all-in-all, I suspect anyone who'd rather live in the southeastern (formerly) coal counties is lying or just doesn't understand Ohio. I guess you could make an argument for Cleveland, Youngstown, Toledo, or Lorain for a view of urban decay or Columbus if you hate suburbs or Cincinnati if you hate conservatives.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Ohio: Northwest Ohio

Retribution I see

I guess I can see why you might pick this if you really hate industry and cornfields, but all-in-all, I suspect anyone who'd rather live in the southeastern (formerly) coal counties is lying or just doesn't understand Ohio. I guess you could make an argument for Cleveland, Youngstown, Toledo, or Lorain for a view of urban decay or Columbus if you hate suburbs or Cincinnati if you hate conservatives

Columbus! Okay, yeah, I looked at a Google Maps view. So never mind, Columbus it is.

I wasn't too familiar with what was actually in northwest Ohio; I don't mind cornfields (industry I'm not fond of, but it's better than sprawl).

And, aren't you from Sandusky? Is that really considered 'northwest Ohio'?

[TJ in Oregon]

Ohio: Northwest Ohio

Retribution I see

I guess I can see why you might pick this if you really hate industry and cornfields, but all-in-all, I suspect anyone who'd rather live in the southeastern (formerly) coal counties is lying or just doesn't understand Ohio. I guess you could make an argument for Cleveland, Youngstown, Toledo, or Lorain for a view of urban decay or Columbus if you hate suburbs or Cincinnati if you hate conservatives

Columbus! Okay, yeah, I looked at a Google Maps view. So never mind, Columbus it is.

I wasn't too familiar with what was actually in northwest Ohio; I don't mind cornfields (industry I'm not fond of, but it's better than sprawl).

And, aren't you from Sandusky? Is that really considered 'northwest Ohio'?

Just wait 20 more years and there won’t be any industry left (lol).

In Sandusky, we often refer to ourselves and the surrounding areas as “North-Central Ohio” but if you split between Northeast and Northwest, we’re in the Northwest. Often people only look at political maps, see Erie County as a Democratic stronghold and place it as the last extension of the northeast, but that’s not really accurate. Sandusky was an independent settlement rather than some outpost of Cleveland suburban sprawl and by German immigrants rather than Eastern European, Irish, and Italians. The Cleveland metropolitan area ends at Vermillion, along the Erie/Lorain County line and in order to drive from Cleveland to Sandusky, you have to go through flat, extensive farm fields. The terrain changes significantly. Our congresswoman is from Toledo and our state senator is from Bowling Green. Our high school sports teams compete in the Northwest Region and our main rivalries are with places west of the Erie/Lorain County line.

Now that I’ve said all that, we do have some identifying characteristics of Northeast Ohio as well. We were part of the Western Reserve (as they call it in Cleveland) or The Firelands (as they call it in Sandusky). We have a tenancy to vote for Democrats (though that has more to do with the relative lack of land in Erie County and Sandusky’s own independent history). We also support Cleveland spots teams, but so does most of Northwest Ohio.

[freepcrusher]

as for parts of state I would most like to live in:

Alabama: nowhere
Alaska: IDK
Arizona: Flagstaff or Jerome
Arkansas: nowhere
California: Venice Beach
Colorado: Boulder
Connecticut: Rich areas of SW Connecticut. It seems like a politically heterogenous area
Delaware: anywhere
Florida: Miami Beach
Georgia: Druid Hills
Hawaii: anywhere
Idaho: Sun Valley
Illinois: North Shore
Indiana: Bloomigton
Iowa: Iowa City
Kansas: Lawrence
Kentucky: nowhere
Louisiana: any nice areas of New Orleans?
Maine: anywhere
Maryland: MontCo
Massachusetts: Cambridge or South End
Michigan: Ann Arbor
Minnesota: Minneapolis
Mississippi - nowhere
Missouri - St Louis
Montana - Missoula
Nebraska - idk
Nevada - Palms Resort
NH - Lake Winapasaukee
NJ - IDK
NM - Santa Fe
NY - Greenwich Village
NC - Chapel Hill
ND - Nowhere. Its cold as f--- up there
OH - Athens
OK - nowhere
OR - Portland
PA - Philly
RI - anywhere
SC - Columbia
SD - Rapid City. It actually isn't as cold there due to the chinook winds
TN - nowhere.
TX - Austin
UT - Park City
VT - anywhere
VA - Fairfax County
WA - Seattle
WV - panhandle (easy commute to DC)
WI - Madtown
WY - Teton Area

[angus]

In Sandusky,

Sandusky!  The best roller-coaster I was ever on was in Sandusky.  Good times.  I keep telling my son I'll take him there when he gets a little older.

Hey, ho, way to go, Ohio!

[TJ in Oregon]

In Sandusky,

Sandusky!  The best roller-coaster I was ever on was in Sandusky.  Good times.  I keep telling my son I'll take him there when he gets a little older.

Hey, ho, way to go, Ohio!

Thanks! We do happen to have arguably the best amusement park in the world (CedarPoint). It's especially good for teenagers/young adults because it focuses more on the intensity of a coaster rather than a theme. Geez, I've probably been there a thousand times when I was growing up.