Opinion of "Occupy Wall Street"

[FloridaRepublican]

Liberal counterpart of the Tea Party; i.e. just more futile protesting.

Personally, I wish both OWS and the Tea Party would just go away. It makes their respective parties look terrible. Not to mention neither are getting anything accomplished except making themselves look ridiculous.

[Platypus]

99% versus 1%? What statistical whiz came up with these figures? Are there 3 million Americans out there trying to destroy the rest of us?

That's the population of Mississippi.

Probably a correlation there.

[opebo]

No, I'm just... well, would "Burkean" be the right word? I value order and predictability. I like feeling safe, and unruly crowds make me anxious.

Oh sure, nothing wrong with that. In many ways I am Burkean as well.

of the Jacobin variety?

No, its just that I love both socialism and the Ancien Régime.  It is liberal capitalism that I hate.

[Keystone Phil]

I hope the President and Dems continue to embrace the Scumbagger movement - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2047168/Occupy-Wall-Street-protesters-make-love-class-war-sex-drugs-tap.html

[Link]

I hope the President and Dems continue to embrace the Scumbagger movement.

Clever! Did you coin that yourself?

I mean, look at these hippies. They should drop the "counter-culture" act and start behaving respectably!


Come on, get a job and stop playing the victim card!

Wow.  This situation is really coming to a head.  What's next?!  Is someone going to nod off for a few seconds?  This is chaos!

Nice post Averroës Nix.

[Link]

Look at this instigator!  He must be a Satan worshiper.  He's dressed in all black.  You would never see someone dressed like him at a Tea Party event.  It really tells you something about Tea Party values.

[courts]

I hope the President and Dems continue to embrace the Scumbagger movement - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2047168/Occupy-Wall-Street-protesters-make-love-class-war-sex-drugs-tap.html

Of course they also love Soros, Buffet, etc. but "hate the criminal bankers".. Joke movement. Unfortunately I have family and friends falling for this nonsense.

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Of course they also love Soros, Buffet, etc. but "hate the criminal bankers".. Joke movement. Unfortunately I have family and friends falling for this nonsense.

That's about as fair to these protesters as invoking the Koch brothers is to Tea Partiers.

The Teabaggers have been a joke movement since 2009. Although at least they were around a couple years before getting hijacked.

[TheDeadFlagBlues]

I hope the President and Dems continue to embrace the Scumbagger movement - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2047168/Occupy-Wall-Street-protesters-make-love-class-war-sex-drugs-tap.html

Of course they also love Soros, Buffet, etc. but "hate the criminal bankers".. Joke movement. Unfortunately I have family and friends falling for this nonsense.

What are you talking about? Occupy Wall Street threw a fit when Soros and Bernanke said nice things about them. As to Buffet, I have no idea what most OWS protesters think about him.

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The Teabaggers are also a joke movement. They have been since being hijacked in 2009. Although at least they were around a couple years before that.

The Tea Party was around for a couple of years before 2009? That's news to me.

Well really there had been sporadic Tea Party protests since the early '90s but they had a revival in 2007-2008 thanks in large part to Ron Paul supporters. Of course given the hatred of the 'Patriot movement' and how young the internet was it makes sense such things were more underground during the '90s.

[courts]

I hope the President and Dems continue to embrace the Scumbagger movement - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2047168/Occupy-Wall-Street-protesters-make-love-class-war-sex-drugs-tap.html

Of course they also love Soros, Buffet, etc. but "hate the criminal bankers".. Joke movement. Unfortunately I have family and friends falling for this nonsense.

What are you talking about? Occupy Wall Street threw a fit when Soros and Bernanke said nice things about them. As to Buffet, I have no idea what most OWS protesters think about him.

Soros funds AdBusters through his Tides Foundation, which was the primary organizers of the protests. Of course "progressives" like the MoveOn crowd love Soros and were in high attendance. And they've been very ecstatic about Buffet and his tax plans (which the 99 endorsed early on in their website) even though he.. well do I really need to explain this to you? I mean I would to them, but I don't think you're a dumb.

[TheDeadFlagBlues]

The Teabaggers are also a joke movement. They have been since being hijacked in 2009. Although at least they were around a couple years before that.

The Tea Party was around for a couple of years before 2009? That's news to me.

Well really there had been sporadic Tea Party protests since the early '90s but they had a revival in 2007-2008 thanks in large part to Ron Paul supporters. Of course given the hatred of the 'Patriot movement' and how young the internet was it makes sense such things were more underground during the '90s.

I thought it was quite clear that the modern/visible Tea Party that we know today started with Santelli? Just because a movement shares a name with another does not mean it is one and the same. The name "tea party" has probably been used a number of times by the far-right in throwing temper tantrums over tax increases.

[NY Jew]

the funny thing about a movement that is protesting income inequality is that in every single interview I heard with someone who said what neighborhood (this is in the NY one) was they from from some left wing rich neighborhood (Chelsea, Park Slope ext.) and not one was from NY's many Middle Class or down neighborhoods.

[TheDeadFlagBlues]

I hope the President and Dems continue to embrace the Scumbagger movement - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2047168/Occupy-Wall-Street-protesters-make-love-class-war-sex-drugs-tap.html

Of course they also love Soros, Buffet, etc. but "hate the criminal bankers".. Joke movement. Unfortunately I have family and friends falling for this nonsense.

What are you talking about? Occupy Wall Street threw a fit when Soros and Bernanke said nice things about them. As to Buffet, I have no idea what most OWS protesters think about him.

Soros funds AdBusters through his Tides Foundation, which was the primary organizers of the protests. Of course "progressives" like the MoveOn crowd love Soros and were in high attendance. And they've been very ecstatic about Buffet and his tax plans (which the 99 endorsed early on in their website) even though he.. well do I really need to explain this to you? I mean I would to them, but I don't think you're a dumb.

Well I obviously don't like Soros or Buffet but I'm not going to be angry that they lend their support to "liberal" causes. I haven't met any MoveOn.org members so I wouldn't know how they feel but the OWS twitters that I'm following disparaged Soros heavily for saying kind things about them (basically telling him to f off). Anyways I don't see why I'd want to turn down Soros' money dumps into legalizing marijuana and defeating Bush because he's a disgusting insider trader.

I don't think Occupy Wall Street support the Buffet tax plan specifically, they support raising taxes in general. I know why Buffet has an interest in raising the Estate tax. I have no affection for him.

Having questionable donors does not make think tanks and advocacy groups on the wrong side. Just because the Koch brothers donated millions to PBS, doesn't mean I'm going to stop considering PBS credible.

[TheDeadFlagBlues]

the funny thing about a movement that is protesting income inequality is that in every single interview I heard with someone who said what neighborhood (this is in the NY one) was they from from some left wing rich neighborhood (Chelsea, Park Slope ext.) and not one was from NY's many Middle Class or down neighborhoods.

Link? I find this to be doubtful seeing as most protesters are unemployed or poor. There's no way they could afford to live in those neighborhoods unless they were living with their parents (which doesn't mean that they're evil leeches, it shows the state of our economy for college grads).

[Keystone Phil]

I hope the President and Dems continue to embrace the Scumbagger movement.

Clever! Did you coin that yourself?

I mean, look at these hippies. They should drop the "counter-culture" act and start behaving respectably!


Come on, get a job and stop playing the victim card!

...yeah, that's the Scumbagger support group...in China (as the article points out yet you failed to mention). For all we know, someone from the Chinese government took a picture of a bunch of old men standing and sitting together in some town square. It's funny how the Chinese government is blasting the U.S. for trying to supress the Scumbagger protests yet we don't see any demonstration signs in the Chinese photo above. Then, of course, there's the irony that China is criticizing another government for "supressing" opposition.

[All Along The Watchtower]

Lean Freedom Movement.

[Keystone Phil]

My point is that there's more to this than dirty hippies and over-privileged hipsters. The "scumbagger" label is stupid and unfair.

Yeah but everyone at Tea Party rallies is a racist, extremist, etc. and "Tea Bagger" is fair. Right.

[Phony Moderate]

My point is that there's more to this than dirty hippies and over-privileged hipsters. The "scumbagger" label is stupid and unfair.

Yeah but everyone at Tea Party rallies is a racist, extremist, etc. and "Tea Bagger" is fair. Right.

You are an Establishment Republican and an enemy of the Tea Party.

[Keystone Phil]

My point is that there's more to this than dirty hippies and over-privileged hipsters. The "scumbagger" label is stupid and unfair.

Yeah but everyone at Tea Party rallies is a racist, extremist, etc. and "Tea Bagger" is fair. Right.

You are an Establishment Republican and an enemy of the Tea Party.

Establishment? No. I'm only "establishment" in that I'm not an extremist. I guess it's sad that that is seen as being with the establishment these days. I don't doubt that some hardcore Tea Parties would think of me as party of the elite party snobbery but it isn't the case. I identify with grassroots, reform movements within the party on multiple levels.

[opebo]

Keytone, you can't really expect us to take seriously a comparison of the Tea Party and the OWS group, can you?

[Link]

Keytone, you can't really expect us to take seriously a comparison of the Tea Party and the OWS group, can you?

I won't presume to answer for Keystone,, but I don't see anything wrong with the comparison. Both are decentralized groups of people who are angry and frustrated for many the same reasons.

The OWS movement has been around for what two weeks?  I don't think you can really draw any definite conclusions about it let alone start comparing it to a political group that has actually elected people.  The group is still in its infancy and is amorphous.  There have been multi year academic studies already done on the Tea Party.  It is a far more known quantity.  The characterizations of the OWS movement are mostly unsubstantiated generalizations with little objective evidence to back them up.  There is no concrete evidence that a small group of protestors in a few cities is supported by either political party.

The myth of the Tea Party being a spontaneous grass roots movement has been debunked.  It is Republican astro turf.

[All Along The Watchtower]

I'd like to compare OWS' demographics-economic, racial, ethnic, social, age-wise-with the Tea Party Patriots Movement.

Should be a fun comparison. I'll tell you one thing, I'm glad some real Americans started protesting Wall Street finally.

[All Along The Watchtower]

Keytone, you can't really expect us to take seriously a comparison of the Tea Party and the OWS group, can you?

I won't presume to answer for Keystone,, but I don't see anything wrong with the comparison. Both are decentralized groups of people who are angry and frustrated for many the same reasons.

The OWS movement has been around for what two weeks?  I don't think you can really draw any definite conclusions about it let alone start comparing it to a political group that has actually elected people.  The group is still in its infancy and is amorphous.  There have been multi year academic studies already done on the Tea Party.  It is a far more known quantity.

None of this is at all inconsistent with what I said. OWS is obviously still a nascent movement. But at this stage, the comparison seems apt.

OWS seems genuinely pissed off with BOTH parties, with the whole system, and is starting to demand real change.

The Tea Party? The Republican Party's most obnoxious elements angry and paranoid about anchor babies, birth certificates from Kenya, and wanting to get the gubmint's hands off their Medicare.






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Yeah, I think its a totally reasonable comparison.

[Marokai Backbeat]

Phil, for someone who denies that he treats politics as if it was a sports game, you don't seem to actually give a damn about anything related to OWS aside from making fun of them with random pictures.