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Bacon King
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« Reply #75 on: September 25, 2011, 09:49:29 PM »
« edited: September 25, 2011, 09:54:32 PM by Bacon King, VP »

Nevermind, I won't have to quit the game.  Thanks Bgwah for digging this up:


Section 3: Acts of Treason
The following acts are hereby declared Acts of Treason:
1. Rebellion, defined as the use of military forces to overthrow the Federal or any Regional government of Atlasia.
2. Aiding of a rebellion, defined as the fully knowing and intentional direction of funds, military aid, or strategic advice to a person or group seeking to engage in rebellion.
3. Terrorism, defined as the unlawful or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating civilians and/or the federal and/or regional governments of Atlasia.
4. Destruction of a Voting Booth, defined as deleting the thread in which a voting booth, or absentee voting booth, for an active election is contained.
Section 4: Punishment of Acts of Treason
Sentencing of Acts of Treason shall be by the presiding Justice; He may use any combination of the following as punishment, depending upon the severity of the offense:
1. Up to a lifetime ban from voting in any Atlasian elections.
2. Up to a lifetime ban from holding any office under the Republic of Atlasia.


PROTIP: That exact law was linked to in the original post.

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Edit: Actually, you/bgwah forgot about the amendment to that section of the bill, which makes secession itself an act of treason, regardless of the intentions of those who secede:

https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Amendment_to_the_Consolidated_Criminal_Justice_Act

This was, again, linked to in my first post. Tongue

I don't want to see anyone getting barred eternally from voting... which is why I've worked so hard for everyone to drop the secession stuff Smiley (unless they're really looking to leave Atlasia permanently, of course).
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« Reply #76 on: September 25, 2011, 10:00:46 PM »

There were no threats of violent rebellion among the secessionists that I can see made anytime before this thread was created and the Vice President and the Senator began making threats to retaliate against the seceding states. The only threat of violent rebellion that night was made by Snowstalker's national worker's revolution. 

A peaceful, uneventful, temporary period of "secession" could have been achieved through a more conciliatory approach.
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« Reply #77 on: September 25, 2011, 10:42:39 PM »

     It would be rather funny if everyone who wanted out just seceded & then got b& 4evar.
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« Reply #78 on: September 26, 2011, 12:43:30 AM »

There were no threats of violent rebellion among the secessionists that I can see made anytime before this thread was created and the Vice President and the Senator began making threats to retaliate against the seceding states. The only threat of violent rebellion that night was made by Snowstalker's national worker's revolution. 

A peaceful, uneventful, temporary period of "secession" could have been achieved through a more conciliatory approach.
Read BK's post.  Seceding is considered treason outright.  The CCJA was amended a few years ago to include secession without use of military forces.
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« Reply #79 on: September 26, 2011, 01:33:57 AM »

There were no threats of violent rebellion among the secessionists that I can see made anytime before this thread was created and the Vice President and the Senator began making threats to retaliate against the seceding states. The only threat of violent rebellion that night was made by Snowstalker's national worker's revolution. 

A peaceful, uneventful, temporary period of "secession" could have been achieved through a more conciliatory approach.
Read BK's post.  Seceding is considered treason outright.  The CCJA was amended a few years ago to include secession without use of military forces.
And it is an awfully overbroad amendment, in my opinion. For the good peace and liberty of our nation, such sedition acts should not be enforced. To consider all declarations of secession "treasonous" is to devoid the definition of any force.  It is the sort of response that unecessarily escalates animosity into hostilities. 
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« Reply #80 on: September 26, 2011, 11:41:51 PM »

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=137599.msg3035004#msg3035004
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