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« on: December 20, 2004, 10:37:03 AM »

Does he have a shot?
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« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2004, 11:03:55 AM »

I don't think he'll pull a Nixon.
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« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2004, 11:05:15 AM »


I agree - besides the Democrats need a new standard bearer

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« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2004, 11:17:55 AM »

If he swings back to the old Al Gore, maybe. I wouldn't mind the idea of a President called Al :-)
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« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2004, 11:43:33 AM »


I think he may. I don't think he'll win but I think he'll run...
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« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2004, 12:10:11 PM »

No.
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« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2004, 12:31:09 PM »

He would lose bad.
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« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2004, 03:16:04 PM »

I would love to see him run again. He is the person I dislike the most in politics. It would be great to see him lose...again.
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« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2004, 03:41:31 PM »

He would have a better shot than 2004.  He's redefined himself as a liberal since 2000 by endorsing Dean and speaking on global warming.  He would still lose big though.  I think he should run for senator in a moderate northern state like Michigan.
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« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2004, 03:57:20 PM »

He would've won this year if he ran.
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« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2004, 04:10:59 PM »

I wish Al Gore would do something, for God's sake. I really, really like the guy, and that's saying a lot because I hate most politicians (including Democrats).
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« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2004, 04:23:08 PM »

I think he would do well, but he would need to run like the Gore of 1988.
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« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2004, 05:03:27 PM »

right now I'd say no, but a lot can happen in 4 years, so I'd say he's definitely a possibility
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« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2004, 05:17:46 PM »

No chance at all.  Can't even win his own state.
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« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2004, 05:26:46 PM »

I seriously hope not.  Of all the politicians, I hate Gore the worst.
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« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2004, 05:54:30 PM »

I don't think he'll run again, but if he did, he'd do better than in '00.
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« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2004, 07:07:46 PM »

I don't think he'll run again, but if he did, he'd do better than in '00.

....Meaning he'd win?
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« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2004, 09:21:00 PM »

It's quite possible. Nixon pulled it off.
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« Reply #18 on: December 20, 2004, 09:23:07 PM »

No.  Go Bayh
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« Reply #19 on: December 20, 2004, 09:24:02 PM »

No, no, no. Back away from the Al Gore. Step away from the Al Gore.

Bayh all the way.
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« Reply #20 on: December 21, 2004, 11:29:25 PM »


What's so great about Bayh?
The fact that his daddy was a good politician isn't going to get him much support.
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« Reply #21 on: December 22, 2004, 12:20:43 AM »
« Edited: December 22, 2004, 12:22:27 AM by X-Mas Alcon »


What's so great about Bayh?
The fact that his daddy was a good politician isn't going to get him much support.

Let's see:

- He is midwestern.
- He pulled a huge number of Republicans.
- He received nearly half of the evangelical vote (side note: there are evangelical Democrats?)
- He is a moderate, but does not sway with the political wind.
- He has had no scandals that I am aware of.
- He seems like a nice guy.
- He's got the groove.

DH put it well:

Bayh was elected Indiana Secretary of State in 1986 and governor in 1988 in close contests - but his re-election as governor and both Senate contests have seen him averaging around 63% of the vote

Bayh enjoys the support of around 35% of Indiana's Republicans and 45% of her evangelical Christians; percentages most Democrats could only dream of!

In sum, I think Bayh is electable as President. However, some would say he's not too charismatic but he's certainly telegenic

Ideologically, Bayh is pretty close to the centre - a man capable of reaching out to moderate conservatives (and 'Main Street' values) without alienating liberals

In 2008, should he seek and obtain the Democratic nomination and face a conservative Republican, I reckon Bayh would win comfortably

The only downer is that sitting senators don't tend to be elected President; however, Bayh was a two-term governor with a sound executive record. A criticism is that he never really used his political capital in Indiana; however, I believe governing in a cautious, as opposed to risky, fashion is a positive attribute. Besides, after eight years of Bush ruling from the ideological right, America will be ready for more moderate and steady pair of hands come 2008

Bayh is one of the best prospects that Democrats have to  be elected President. Because he's a moderate, he has the capacity to be a uniter and not a divider in that he has strong bi-partisan appeal

I guess he could secure over 90% of the Democratic vote, 60% of independent vote and 15% of the Republican vote; as well as most liberals, most moderates and a significant number of conservatives

He's a strong Democrat from the "red" state of Indiana. His vote actually topped that of Bush (by around 18,000) when he was re-elected to the Senate

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« Reply #22 on: December 22, 2004, 06:56:08 PM »

No chance at all.  Can't even win his own state.

He carried Washington DC   ; P
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« Reply #23 on: December 22, 2004, 07:05:51 PM »

Ah so you would want the Democrats to nominate a man who is far from the party mainstream just so you can appeal to the masses. That is when I know the party system has failed. I wish both parties would just nominate people who support the views of their party not some moderate who has the best chance of winning.
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« Reply #24 on: December 22, 2004, 07:10:20 PM »

Ah so you would want the Democrats to nominate a man who is far from the party mainstream just so you can appeal to the masses. That is when I know the party system has failed. I wish both parties would just nominate people who support the views of their party not some moderate who has the best chance of winning.

I do not think that is healthy. I think we need cooperation.
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