National Tracking Poll Thread

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Lol Rasmussen

This.  Also, I like how neither candidate polls above 40%.

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Generic Republican isn't running this year.

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Romney is on the rise.

This is possibly due to Obama threatening the public with outrageous tax. In 2010 the Republican party made landslide gains among successful high income voters compared to 2008.

This "outrageous tax" by any chance?

http://www.gallup.com/poll/153887/Americans-Favor-Buffett-Rule.aspx

The bills have got to be paid. The cost of, and the response to, the 'Crash of 2008' and the ensuring Great Recession was never going to come cheap. And that's the harsh reality of it

"Junk poll!  Junk poll!  Outlier!  Outlier!"

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Just to keep it interesting... here's the latest CNN poll:
Obama 52
Romney 43

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2012/images/04/16/rel4a.pdf.

Crap poll. CNN hasn't exactly been the gold standard in national polling.

"Junk poll!  Junk poll!  Outlier!  Outlier!"

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Romney is on the rise.

This is possibly due to Obama threatening the public with outrageous tax. In 2010 the Republican party made landslide gains among successful high income voters compared to 2008.

This "outrageous tax" by any chance?

http://www.gallup.com/poll/153887/Americans-Favor-Buffett-Rule.aspx

The bills have got to be paid. The cost of, and the response to, the 'Crash of 2008' and the ensuring Great Recession was never going to come cheap. And that's the harsh reality of it

"Junk poll!  Junk poll!  Outlier!  Outlier!"

It doesn't have to be, no. But the Republican party made landslide gains among successful high income voters in 2010 and surely is banking on those gains for 2012. The best way to lock in those gains is to point out these confiscatory taxes.

1%ers have been voting Republican for years.  This is a well-known fact.

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

Romney is on the rise.

This is possibly due to Obama threatening the public with outrageous tax. In 2010 the Republican party made landslide gains among successful high income voters compared to 2008.

This "outrageous tax" by any chance?

http://www.gallup.com/poll/153887/Americans-Favor-Buffett-Rule.aspx

The bills have got to be paid. The cost of, and the response to, the 'Crash of 2008' and the ensuring Great Recession was never going to come cheap. And that's the harsh reality of it

"Junk poll!  Junk poll!  Outlier!  Outlier!"

It doesn't have to be, no. But the Republican party made landslide gains among successful high income voters in 2010 and surely is banking on those gains for 2012. The best way to lock in those gains is to point out these confiscatory taxes.

1%ers have been voting Republican for years.  This is a well-known fact.

Actually, GOP gains occurred heavily among the top 40% or so.

The GOP made gains across the board in 2010.  Regardless, Obama is currently campaigning on a very popular issue.  I don't think what you are saying will be much of a factor.

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The GOP made gains across the board in 2010.  Regardless, Obama is currently campaigning on a very popular issue.  I don't think what you are saying will be much of a factor.

You keep thinking that to be true, but people don't actually vote that way when higher taxes are threatening. See tax initiative 1098.

Oh, so if Obama stops campaigning on an issue that 60% of Americans agree with him on, that will help him win in the general?  Nice try.

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The GOP made gains across the board in 2010.  Regardless, Obama is currently campaigning on a very popular issue.  I don't think what you are saying will be much of a factor.

You keep thinking that to be true, but people don't actually vote that way when higher taxes are threatening. See tax initiative 1098.

Oh, so if Obama stops campaigning on an issue that 60% of Americans agree with him on, that will help him win in the general?  Nice try.

Uh huh. That's why of course outrageous tax policies fail even in King County.

There were some issues that voters had with this particular tax reform proposal, but the vast majority of Americans believe that higher income earners can and should pay a little more in taxes.

Sorry.

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The GOP made gains across the board in 2010.  Regardless, Obama is currently campaigning on a very popular issue.  I don't think what you are saying will be much of a factor.

You keep thinking that to be true, but people don't actually vote that way when higher taxes are threatening. See tax initiative 1098.

Oh, so if Obama stops campaigning on an issue that 60% of Americans agree with him on, that will help him win in the general?  Nice try.

Uh huh. That's why of course outrageous tax policies fail even in King County.

There were some issues that voters had with this particular tax reform proposal, but the vast majority of Americans believe that higher income earners can and should pay a little more in taxes.

Sorry.

Clearly of course not the majority of the voting public. New Jersey municipalities across the state have also voted down higher tax.

Again, tax policies might be rejected by the voters if the voters feel that there was problems with the legislation, like what happened in Washington state.  If there is a plan in place that leads to higher taxes on the middle-class or defeats the point of having progressive taxation, voters - even those who favor raising taxes on the rich - will oppose it.  Now, you can spin this any way you'd like, but the numbers show most Americans nationwide not agreeing with your position.

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Why won't you folks understand that polls are not immediately rejected just because the numbers may not be on our side?  Liberals here have no-noed polls COUNTLESS times that give Obama the advantage simply because certain factors make the poll unreliable.  We trust polling firms like PPP because more election results confirm its credibility more-so than certain other firms.  The remarks I'm seeing here are quite boastful and immature; of course, it's hard to expect better from some individuals here.

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Well, the election is 6 months away, so of course it's far from over.  It could be +10 either direction and it would be "far from over" simply because it's far from over.

I'm starting to think this now, too.  I don't even put a lot of faith in national polls anymore.

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Gallup

Obama: 47
Romney: 45

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So.

RAND - Obama +4
Reuters - Obama  +3
TIPP - Obama +2
Rass - Romney +1
Gallup - Romney +6

Quite a spread.

So would the race basically be O+2, at the moment?

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Another bad day for Gallup.

Even if job approval goes by adults and election polls go by likely voters, it's still quite a stretch to say Romney's leading while Obama's approval is at 50%.

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Another bad day for Gallup.

Even if job approval goes by adults and election polls go by likely voters, it's still quite a stretch to say Romney's leading while Obama's approval is at 50%.

That would be...another bad day for Obama

This debate bounce for Romney is a pleasant surprise.

No, the fact that those numbers conflict like this should be enough to question Gallup's credibility on this race and Obama's approval rating no matter what it shows.

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It's definitely not great, but it isn't horrible, either.  Obama's in a nice position going into the third debate if he's at least slightly in the lead.

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Intrade's not looking great tonight, probably because of today's polls.

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Gallup remains the outlier.