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« Reply #1550 on: October 26, 2012, 12:42:49 PM »


Why? Because Romney is ahead? I don't know if you know this, but this election is far from over.  Nobody knows who is going to win.

Jeff, let's say for now that it's truly a knife-edge race and "nobody knows who is going to win." If so, a five-point lead by Romney is indicating a sizable chance that Romney has sewn up the race and can't lose. That's inconsistent with "nobody knows who is going to win," and the state polling has shown consistently that Obama is favored to win by a narrow margin.
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« Reply #1551 on: October 26, 2012, 01:00:16 PM »

IBD/TIPP essentially unchanged from yesterday, though Obama's lead increases from 2% to 2.3%.

Obama: 46.9%
Romney: 44.6%
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« Reply #1552 on: October 26, 2012, 01:18:48 PM »

Friday Summary (w/UPI)

Rand:      Obama +6  (O+2) 
TIPP:      Obama +2  (-)
UPI*:      Obama +1  (R+1)
Reuters:   Obama +1  (O+2)
PPP:       TIED      (R+1)
ABC:       Romney +1 (O+2)
Rasmussen: Romney +3 (-)
Gallup:    Romney +5 (R+2)
 
Average:   Obama +0.1 (O+0.2)


*UPI Poll 1 day old
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« Reply #1553 on: October 26, 2012, 02:49:41 PM »

Gallup remains the outlier.
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« Reply #1554 on: October 26, 2012, 03:11:14 PM »


And RAND, of course.
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« Reply #1555 on: October 26, 2012, 03:15:41 PM »


RAND isn't included in most polling averages.
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« Reply #1556 on: October 26, 2012, 03:20:31 PM »

It is in our own, however.
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« Reply #1557 on: October 26, 2012, 04:22:34 PM »


O +6, O +2, O +1, O+1, TIED, R + 1, R + 3, R + 5

You did not take statistics.
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« Reply #1558 on: October 26, 2012, 04:27:45 PM »

Can someone confirm that ABC/WaPo only count the 'certain to vote', and don't include those who will 'probably vote'?
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« Reply #1559 on: October 26, 2012, 04:30:05 PM »

If you pull the high and low polls (Rand and Gallup) then today's average is a tie. Not that I think that's the right way to do things. I don't think you can completely dismiss any poll. If Gallup's assessment of the electorate (notably the white/non-white mix) is correct, then Romney is going to win, probably in a big way. I'm guessing the Rand mix shows the opposite (although not sure they have revealed their demographics).   Right now the difference in polling comes down to a combo of random noise and LV model assumptions (and in some cases active weighting).

In a couple of weeks we will know who was 'right' but for now there is no consensus in the results because the assumptions are different.
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« Reply #1560 on: October 26, 2012, 04:33:07 PM »

Can someone confirm that ABC/WaPo only count the 'certain to vote', and don't include those who will 'probably vote'?

Daily Kos had some stuff about this last night, and yes, ABC only counts the "certain" crowd. And they eliminate half of them too.
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« Reply #1561 on: October 26, 2012, 04:48:32 PM »

What site can I go to other than politico that shows the national polls?  For some reason, Politico.com has no polls from today.  I don't know if there aren't any, or they just haven't updated them, yet.
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« Reply #1562 on: October 26, 2012, 04:49:59 PM »

Real Clear Politics, Pollster.com, Talking Points Memo, Politicalwire.
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« Reply #1563 on: October 26, 2012, 04:55:03 PM »

Cool, thanks!
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« Reply #1564 on: October 26, 2012, 06:10:38 PM »

PPP is back to a 48-48 tie.

Romney continues to dominate among whites!

and I know how thrilled you are about that.

Racial solidarity is very important to you, isn't it Krazen?

No, but winning the election is. The polls show that the path of victory leans toward rallying white males who favor God, guns, proper marriage, and football.

Oh bull$%#t. Your recent comments elsewhere regarding "the war on whites" makes your racism not even latent.

Yet again, another poster who can't distinguish the VERY wide difference between "principled conservative" and "racist ass".
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« Reply #1565 on: October 26, 2012, 08:41:18 PM »

PPP is back to a 48-48 tie.

Romney continues to dominate among whites!

and I know how thrilled you are about that.

Racial solidarity is very important to you, isn't it Krazen?

No, but winning the election is. The polls show that the path of victory leans toward rallying white males who favor God, guns, proper marriage, and football.

Oh bull$%#t. Your recent comments elsewhere regarding "the war on whites" makes your racism not even latent.

Yet again, another poster who can't distinguish the VERY wide difference between "principled conservative" and "racist ass".

Now its racist to vote against barack obama? You're a funny guy! By the way, recent polls show white males going for Romney by 30 points.
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« Reply #1566 on: October 26, 2012, 09:11:18 PM »

PPP is back to a 48-48 tie.

Romney continues to dominate among whites!

and I know how thrilled you are about that.

Racial solidarity is very important to you, isn't it Krazen?

No, but winning the election is. The polls show that the path of victory leans toward rallying white males who favor God, guns, proper marriage, and football.

Oh bull$%#t. Your recent comments elsewhere regarding "the war on whites" makes your racism not even latent.

Yet again, another poster who can't distinguish the VERY wide difference between "principled conservative" and "racist ass".

Now its racist to vote against barack obama? You're a funny guy! By the way, recent polls show white males going for Romney by 30 points.

In what alternate universe did I say anything remotely like that? You're a delusional guy!

It's your unapologetic glee over whites voting as a block and, more importantly, your victim complex 'war on whites' that lets your sheet show.
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« Reply #1567 on: October 26, 2012, 10:02:12 PM »

PPP is back to a 48-48 tie.

Romney continues to dominate among whites!

and I know how thrilled you are about that.

Racial solidarity is very important to you, isn't it Krazen?

No, but winning the election is. The polls show that the path of victory leans toward rallying white males who favor God, guns, proper marriage, and football.

Oh bull$%#t. Your recent comments elsewhere regarding "the war on whites" makes your racism not even latent.

Yet again, another poster who can't distinguish the VERY wide difference between "principled conservative" and "racist ass".

Now its racist to vote against barack obama? You're a funny guy! By the way, recent polls show white males going for Romney by 30 points.

Not here in the great state of Ohio they aren't.
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« Reply #1568 on: October 26, 2012, 10:08:06 PM »

In what alternate universe did I say anything remotely like that? You're a delusional guy!

It's your unapologetic glee over whites voting as a block and, more importantly, your victim complex 'war on whites' that lets your sheet show.


Haha! You're a funny guy!

If there's block voting, its by nonwhite females. The Republican party is forced to look elsewhere due to this block voting.
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« Reply #1569 on: October 26, 2012, 10:11:09 PM »

In what alternate universe did I say anything remotely like that? You're a delusional guy!

It's your unapologetic glee over whites voting as a block and, more importantly, your victim complex 'war on whites' that lets your sheet show.


Haha! You're a funny guy!

If there's block voting, its by nonwhite females. The Republican party is forced to look elsewhere due to this block voting.

Or you know... pursue policies that will attract them?
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« Reply #1570 on: October 26, 2012, 10:11:53 PM »

PPP Tracker

Obama - 48
Romney - 48
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« Reply #1571 on: October 26, 2012, 10:17:08 PM »

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« Reply #1572 on: October 26, 2012, 11:03:32 PM »


It's your unapologetic glee over whites voting as a block and, more importantly, your victim complex 'war on whites' that lets your sheet show.

Why is it "racist" to express "glee" that a bloc of voters is strongly in favor of your candidate?  Would citing the black vote in a state be equally racist? 
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« Reply #1573 on: October 26, 2012, 11:06:03 PM »


It's your unapologetic glee over whites voting as a block and, more importantly, your victim complex 'war on whites' that lets your sheet show.

Why is it "racist" to express "glee" that a bloc of voters is strongly in favor of your candidate?  Would citing the black vote in a state be equally racist? 

JJ... you're not stupid. If you've read his posts enough, you know exactly what he means, and no amount of feigned outrage will change it.
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« Reply #1574 on: October 27, 2012, 12:03:08 AM »


It's your unapologetic glee over whites voting as a block and, more importantly, your victim complex 'war on whites' that lets your sheet show.

Why is it "racist" to express "glee" that a bloc of voters is strongly in favor of your candidate?  Would citing the black vote in a state be equally racist? 

JJ... you're not stupid. If you've read his posts enough, you know exactly what he means, and no amount of feigned outrage will change it.

Not feigned outrage. 

I think it perfectly reasonable to look at demographic groups and cheer when your side's demographic group turns out, or more strongly moves to your candidate.

I think it is the worst hypocrisy to assign a racist reason when the other side does the same thing.   
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