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« on: September 12, 2011, 04:49:31 AM »

2000: Gore defeats Bush.
2004: McCain is the Republicans's nominee.

Discuss with maps.
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« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2011, 05:11:31 AM »

What is the monetary policy like?
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« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2011, 11:05:27 AM »

Sorry  I don't know how to create a map but I do have a prediction. McCain chose Senator Alexander because he needed a conservative from the south .   Gore decided to keep Vice President Joe Lieberman on the ticket even though many democrats opposed him. 

John McCain/ Lamar Alexander ...  290 electoral votes.

Gore/ Lieberman ....  248  electoral votes 

Iowa goes for Gore/Lieberman , Wisconsin for McCain/Alexander
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« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2011, 11:15:57 AM »



What is the scenario at-large? Does 9/11 still happen? What is the economy like? Etc...
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« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2011, 11:30:30 AM »

If Gore invades Afghanistan post-9/11, but avoids Iraq, he will receive a great deal of public support up through 2002 and 2003 at least. The economic recession of 2000-2001 will have little effect on the 2004 election, though McCain will label it a jobless recovery. He will also attack Gore for any new environmental regulations and education, health care, or immigration reform. Nonetheless, it's hard to imagine Gore losing if he doesn't go into Iraq.
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« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2011, 05:26:11 PM »

I think that having McCain as an opponent in 2004, as a  foreign affairs hawk he would push for more action against Al Qaeda and the coutries harbouring it. That'why I think that McCain would have won in  '04.
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« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2011, 05:35:47 PM »

9/11 has happened. Gore invades Afghanistan but not Iraq.

Economic politic is like Clinton.
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« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2011, 01:33:05 PM »

Sorry  I don't know how to create a map but I do have a prediction.
https://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/evcalc.php


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« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2011, 01:43:26 PM »
« Edited: September 13, 2011, 03:03:02 PM by Scott »

If Gore invades Afghanistan post-9/11, but avoids Iraq, he will receive a great deal of public support up through 2002 and 2003 at least. The economic recession of 2000-2001 will have little effect on the 2004 election, though McCain will label it a jobless recovery. He will also attack Gore for any new environmental regulations and education, health care, or immigration reform. Nonetheless, it's hard to imagine Gore losing if he doesn't go into Iraq.
9/11 has happened. Gore invades Afghanistan but not Iraq.

Economic politic is like Clinton.
These.  We also get cars that run on hot fudge sundaes.

If Gore did get elected for two terms, what are the odds that a Democrat would still be in the White House?
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« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2011, 08:22:20 PM »

Very little. Clinton would probably challenge Lieberman. No idea who the R's would run. Giuliani or maybe one of the rising stars that would have come from a Gore Presidency.

On the other hand I have a hard time seeing how the Dems break the tradition of having a VP elected to 2 terms after the PoTUS has also served 2.



290-248 McCain
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« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2011, 01:04:57 PM »

Gore improves his performance from 2000 in the Midwest, but loses ground to McCain in the West and Northeast.



McCain  283    51%
Gore     255    47%
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« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2011, 09:21:02 AM »



Gore 297-241

Iowa would never go for McCain. And as for Tennessee, I don't think an incumbent President has ever lost his home state. Florida is a guess.
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« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2011, 07:33:52 PM »

And as for Tennessee, I don't think an incumbent President has ever lost his home state.

Wilson lost his home state in 1916.

I stand corrected. Smiley
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« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2011, 03:59:57 PM »


McCain 273
Gore 265
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