Rubio and Kerry have a chat

[Torie]

Rubio speaks, Kerry listens, and then they chat. Whatever you think of Rubio, I have never seen anyone use voice intonation as effectively as he. He is able to project and channel his passion like a laser beam to cut to the chase of his central point with maximum effectiveness.  Most with his level of passion end up running off the tracks and ending up a train wreck, because they lack his iron discipline - and that is what it is - discipline - the discipline to focus. Every word carries its weight. I know the feeling. I have been there once or twice in closing argument at a trial. I will never forget that feeling.

[Lief 🗽]

... do you need a tissue dude?

[Torie]

Not at the moment. Do you Lief?  What do you think, Lief?  How do you think Rubio handled Kerry's query?

[King]

Rubio is a wonderful speaker, I will give him that.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Phil is in DC and has been watching the debate/debacle.  I wonder if he saw Rubio.

[Lief 🗽]

I don't have 14 minutes to spend listening to this guy. I'm sure I'll be hearing him plenty when he's Vice President come January 2013.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

I see why an orator like Torie is sporting wood........brilliant!

[Meeker]

It'd be nice if what he was saying wasn't such nonsensical drivel.

[bgwah]

He sounds like Fred Savage.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

It'd be nice if what he was saying wasn't such nonsensical drivel.

Which part, the part where he said the President hasn't submitted a plan?  Ha!  Obama leaves all the proposals to Congress.

[Iosif]

Everything he said in the clip - every single talking point - I've heard regurgitated countless times on Hannity.

Sean also has better hair.

[Phony Moderate]

Rubio is another hypocritical joke.

[Bull Moose Base]

I've always thought Rubio was actually a very mediocre public speaker (and a man who seemed to be of mediocre intelligence).  His cadence, not to mention subject matter, actually reminds me a lot of Dukakis.  I've thought Rubio's speaking came across as amateurish and inauthentic.

This isn't just bias.  I admit feeling the same way about Kirsten Gillibrand's speaking even though I much prefer her politics.  On the other end, I think Palin was a great natural public speaker in 2008 with the help of a teleprompter, even though I deplored her message.

[Meeker]

It'd be nice if what he was saying wasn't such nonsensical drivel.

Which part, the part where he said the President hasn't submitted a plan?  Ha!  Obama leaves all the proposals to Congress.

Gramps, any plan Obama submits will be summarily rejected by the Republicans simply because it's Obama's plan. They want him to fail on anything and everything. Given that reality, why would he bother sending something to them?

[Holmes]

Palin a natural public speaker? Come on. She spoke in a tone that's more suitable for kindergarteners. Especially when speaking about her opponents.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

It'd be nice if what he was saying wasn't such nonsensical drivel.

Which part, the part where he said the President hasn't submitted a plan?  Ha!  Obama leaves all the proposals to Congress.

Gramps, any plan Obama submits will be summarily rejected by the Republicans simply because it's Obama's plan. They want him to fail on anything and everything. Given that reality, why would he bother sending something to them?

He's the President, he's supposed to lead, he's supposed to send his plan to Congress and shove it up their arse if need be, even if they reject it.   Honestly, Meeker, you know I'm not an Obama hater....but he has shown NO leadership here.  Do you not remember how President 29% got everything he wanted?

[Meeker]

It'd be nice if what he was saying wasn't such nonsensical drivel.

Which part, the part where he said the President hasn't submitted a plan?  Ha!  Obama leaves all the proposals to Congress.

Gramps, any plan Obama submits will be summarily rejected by the Republicans simply because it's Obama's plan. They want him to fail on anything and everything. Given that reality, why would he bother sending something to them?

He's the President, he's supposed to lead, he's supposed to send his plan to Congress and shove it up their arse if need be, even if they reject it.   Honestly, Meeker, you know I'm not an Obama hater....but he has shown NO leadership here.  Do you not remember how President 29% got everything he wanted?

Bush got what he wanted because he had a Congress that was willing to work with him (at least for the first six years). Being a leader doesn't work when the other side has decided that have no interest in even trying to help him lead. Obama's gets the best deal by having the Republicans propose a plan and then working it down into something slightly-less awful. Saying "He needs to be a leader!" sounds good in a Mr. Smith Goes to Washington type of way, but it's a complete non-start when dealing with Boehner and the Tea Party. They hate this President more than they love this country and they'll do whatever it takes to cause him defeat and embarrassment.

[DrScholl]

To paraphrase a line from my favorite stage musical, all I hear some hotshot talking BS.

[Napoleon]

It'd be nice if what he was saying wasn't such nonsensical drivel.

Which part, the part where he said the President hasn't submitted a plan?  Ha!  Obama leaves all the proposals to Congress.

Obama is following the Constitution.

[Keystone Phil]

Phil is in DC and has been watching the debate/debacle.  I wonder if he saw Rubio.

I was in the Senate gallery last night when they tabled the Boehner Plan. I went to the House gallery today. I'm about to leave for the Senate gallery in a little bit for the 1 AM vote.

In other words, I didn't see the Rubio moment mentioned here. 

[J. J.]

In a word:  WOW!!!

Rubio is absolutely right. 

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Rubio is a wonderful speaker, I will give him that.

A AMAZING speaker, especially in person. But everytime Rubio comes up, I have to bring this up. I met him once. He is very short, and very quiet. But as soon as he gets on that stage...WOW! Whole differant person. He gets you going, cheering, clapping.

[Bull Moose Base]

Finally watched the exchange with Kerry.  As far as the substance of it, Kerry had 2 points.  Obama's opposition to raising the debt limit as a senator wasn't equivalent to the GOP's today because Democrats were grandstanding/not using real power to get leverage by threatening to actually drive the country deeper down when it's already reeling, as the GOP is doing.  Pretty undeniable and Rubio dodges the point as far as I can see.  Kerry also pointed out that the Republicans aren't willing to compromise and  Rubio used a house fire metaphor to defend their refusing to compromise as they threaten to tank the economy.  A better metaphor would have been if the homeowner set the house on fire himself, locked the door and refused to leave unlock it for his wife and kids unless his wife gave him a quick hummer.  Not sure Kerry could have said that though.

Rubio's delivery, seemed fine but nothing exceptional.  Comparable to Pawlenty maybe?

[The Vorlon]

... do you need a tissue dude?

Or maybe a tingle running up your leg?

I like Rubio, if only for taking out that POS Charlie Christ, but at least to my eyes he lacks the gravitas needed to truly move the ball forward politically.

I did think that yielding time to let senator swift boat ask his questions was quite classy and reflected well upon him.

will be a great vp choice in 2012 however.

[The Vorlon]

I don't have 14 minutes to spend listening to this guy. I'm sure I'll be hearing him plenty when he's Vice President come January 2013.

ok.... Since you can see the future..... Who will be the president?