Gerrymandering Canada

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

http://maps.google.ca/maps/ms?authuser=0&ie=UTF8&hl=en&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=214668381355121949879.0004a89893b55720f76af

Might be too big populationwise, if so, cut the southeast out; same result. NDP seat.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

http://maps.google.ca/maps/ms?authuser=0&ie=UTF8&hl=en&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=214668381355121949879.0004a898a0648711e72eb here's 2 in Regina

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

Considering as I posted in the other thread, the NDP lost in Saskatoon in 3 of the 4 Saskatoon ridings, and in the other, did well because of the Candidate, I'd say it is.

Regardless:
http://maps.google.ca/maps/ms?authuser=0&ie=UTF8&hl=en&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=214668381355121949879.0004a898b837837bb0c17
Peel region Liberal.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

One thing that will be very interesting will be what happens in downtown Toronto. Right now because of all the new development and condo construction, Olivia Chow's Trinity-Spadina seat is seriously over-populated and so is Toronto Centre. Its almost certain that a new seat will have to carved out there.

Ideally, I'd like to see Rosedale lopped off and merged with Forest Hill and or Leaside and create a "vote sink" that is all really wealthy NDP dead zones.

You could also easily create another NDP seat on vancouver island.

I was shocked the NDP won the condo area, even if narrowly. It tells me that any new districts might not harm the NDP as much as is feared.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

How about a Conservative seat on the Montreal Island?

thanks to the airport, this is a hell of a lot easier than I thought it'd be.

http://maps.google.ca/maps/ms?authuser=0&ie=UTF8&hl=en&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=214668381355121949879.0004a89a249151dc67ed6

I call the riding "Trudeau" just to piss off the Conservatives XD

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

Old money is not Harper friendly. Harper is New money friendly.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

Would it be possible to gerrymander more Green seats?

No, the Greens won far too few polls.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

The reason you are getting so many seats is you are not accounting for riding specifics.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

Places like Rouge River voted NDP because of the local candidate. Unless you want to Somehow gerrymander that candidate, the NDP wont be winning both those ridings

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

Another problem is that your victories are narrow. Saskatchewan has each of it's 8 "central" ridings have the cities being huge proportion; the NDP should have an advantage, but they dropped.

In other words, you could argue that Saskatchewan was gerrymandered to be pro-NDP, and that the NDP has been unable to perform.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

http://maps.google.ca/maps/ms?authuser=0&ie=UTF8&hl=en&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=214668381355121949879.0004a8b289f2c3d734afe

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

I call this map
http://maps.google.ca/maps/ms?authuser=0&ie=UTF8&hl=en&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=214668381355121949879.0004a8c034b18f4c565bc
Teddy's ritalin hasn't kicked in yet cause he just woke up oh yea and there's some swear words in there
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[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

I'm issuing a new challenge to anyone who thinks they are bold enough to take it on.

Canada has decided to join the United States for some reason. You've been picked to draw some new Congressional boundaries. Since ridings are smaller than Congressional districts, there will be a number of ridings in each district. You are instructed to use ridings whole.

Your challenge is to gerrymander ridings so that specific parties are most easily able to win them.

Saskatchewan and Manitoba have two Districts each.
Alberta has 6
British Columbia has 7
Quebec has 13
Ontario has 21

This means each district should consist of...
7 ridings in SK or MB
4 or 5 in AB
4 or 5 in BC
5 or 6 in QC
5 in Ontario (with a single district being allowed to have 6)

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

Okay fine, whole ridings are NOT a rule anymore. Try your best.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

We could never have NC style gerrymandering because of the way our population is distributed. Quebec is the only place with the proper distribution, but it's voting population is too homogeneous. Toronto is too "squished in", Saskatchewan is not populated enough, etc etc.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

Filaments my friend.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

Yes, there are a lot of jewish people along Bathurst street in Toronto.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

Why are Jews in Canada so conservative?

Max is right. Jews used to vote enmasse for the Liberals. It's only in the past few years that they've switched to Harper.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

The Liberals used to stand for left-wing bleeding heartism and pro-quebecism under Trudeau.

Mulroney came in and stole away the pro-quebecism. Then his party died.

Chretien, then moulded the Liberals to stand for very moderate and centrist Conservatism.

Then when the Conservative party came together, the Liberals stood for not-being-the-conservative-party

Then Canadians were like
"but we LIKE the conservative party"

meanwhile the NDP now stands for left-wing bleeding heartism and pro-quebecism.

And now the Liberals are trying to figure out WTF they stand for.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

not unless US Democrats turn on Israel

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

I like the fact that I'm no longer the only one who considers the true "north" of Northern Ontario to begin at 47

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

Clarington has enough people for it's own riding.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

I'm working on an electoral reform proposal, but have asked for Krago's goahead to use his map as my base.