Was 1964 a landslide?

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I say No. Johnson lost 6 states, several by sizeable margins, and didn't get 500 EVs.

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Well, 1936 was also more than both Reagan and Nixon could ever get, and I consider that a landslide.

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He didn't get 500 EVs.

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George Washington got 500/538. Not that you can have a landslide when it's just state legislatures picking electors.

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Sorry Phil, there weren't that many Presidential electors in the 18th century!

I'm saying he got the fraction 500/538 of the electors.

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I don't see why something has to be 500 to classify as a "landslide."

It doesn't, but I think of a landslide as one of those true, rare electoral blowouts that just obliterates the opponent.

IMO, there are only three of those in U.S. history: 1936, 1972, and 1984.

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I say No. Johnson lost 6 states, several by sizeable margins, and didn't get 500 EVs.

YOU SAY THAT 1964 WAS NOT A LANDSLIDE

Arizona, went Republican from every presidential election from 1948-1996.

I think this is correct. It was, afterall, one of the few GOP strongholds to withstand the Johnson landslide.

YOU SAY THAT 1964 WAS A LANDSLIDE

I've probably also referred to 1988 as a landslide at times. Lately I've been using the term a lot less.

I have to disagree that 1980, 1992, and 1996 were landslides. I think you need about, exactly, or over 60% of the vote to have a true landslide. Clinton didn't even get 50% of the vote, Reagan got only 51%.

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Yes.

A fact: According to the Gallup Archive, early in the campaign, Johnson led 77%-18%

Didn't Bush lead 65 to 35 before the candidate was known?

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The comparison between the two isn't important. I'm just wondering, now that we're talking early poll numbers, how well Bush was doing. Some polls have him demolishing Howard Dean.

Can you give a link to the Gallup Archive?