SENATE BILL: The Protection of Personal Choice Act (Law'd)

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

The amendment is adopted.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

The problem I have with this bill doesn't necessarily stem from the fact I'm a nanny statist. It's more that while I believe in personal freedoms, smoking effects almost everyone around you. If smoking is designated to areas with seperate ventilation systems, and companies are willing to invest in it, then I don't see a problem allowing it. I still support banning it in all public areas, federal or otherwise.

[Napoleon]

"Designated areas with separate ventilation only"?

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Yes. While separating smoking areas with other areas cuts down on the hazard of second hand smoke,it doesn't eliminate it. You can still smell the smoke. You'd need completely seperate ventilation to eliminate it. Trust me. I lived in NC when Reynolds Tobacco was in full swing and I know the pain of smelling cigarette smoke in the non smoking areas. It's not pleasant.

[Napoleon]

Amendments offered as friendly: designated areas with separate ventilation only.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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Pending Amendment

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Senators have 24 hours to object to the sponsor originated amendment.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

This looks like it would restrict the exemption even more than the current PPHA. Am I reading that right?

[Napoleon]

Establishments not exempted by clause 4, it should read.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

The amendment has passed.


If no one has a problem with it, I am going to just edit in, Napoleon's last minute modification.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Establishments not exempted by clause 4, it should read.

so establishments that aren't allowed to have smoking are restricted to those over 18

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

On second thought, I think I'll wait for further clarification on that point before I edit anything in.

[Napoleon]

On second thought, I think I'll wait for further clarification on that point before I edit anything in.

Let's do this again.

Establishments not exempted by clause 4 may allow smoking in designated areas with separate ventilation only.

[Ban my account ffs!]

On second thought, I think I'll wait for further clarification on that point before I edit anything in.

Let's do this again.

Establishments not exempted by clause 4 may allow smoking in designated areas with separate ventilation only.

Don't you mean...
"Establishments not exempted under clause 4 may allow smoking in separate, closed off areas with separate ventilation.  No children under the age of 18 are allowed in such designated smoking areas."

I offer that amendment as friendly.

[Napoleon]

Accepted.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

This bill has potential now. While I still abhor smoking, if places want to invest that type of money into building a separate area for smokers, that's their decision.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

This bill has potential now. While I still abhor smoking, if places want to invest that type of money into building a separate area for smokers, that's their decision.

Likewise.

[CatoMinor]

In a last effort to push for more say on the part of the Region's and local governments into their own affairs, I offer this amendment:

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[Napoleon]

I support the intentions but prefer a vote.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

I'm not sure I want to give the regions the freedom to harm others.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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Sponsor Feedback: Friendly
Senators have 24 hours to object to Amendment 44:17.

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Sponsor Feedback: Friendly but requests a vote
A vote shall commence once 44:17 is dispensed with.

[Marokai Backbeat]

Ordinarily I would've made some sort of official comments on this bill by now but I'm sure the instant I did the sponsor of this particular piece of legislation would throw a fit over a "conflict of interest."

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Ordinarily I would've made some sort of official comments on this bill by now but I'm sure the instant I did the sponsor of this particular piece of legislation would throw a fit over a "conflict of interest."

Don't make a comment and then pretend you're not making one. I don't know what this has to do with your position as GM. Are millions of people going to be dying in restaurants if this passes?

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

What's Jbrase's amendment trying to say? Just stating it only goes into effect in federally owned places in all the regions?

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

What's Jbrase's amendment trying to say? Just stating it only goes into effect in federally owned places in all the regions?

Yes, it deals with those areas over which the Senate has exclusive legislative powers under the Constitution Art 1, Sec 5, C 25-27.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

In that case, I would oppose the bill. It would really defeat the whole purpose of the legislation. If I'm understanding this correctly, we simply go from making smoking illegal in public places to only making it illegal in federally owned buildings. I can't support that because I'm an obvious freedom hater. I will support the bill sans Jbrase's little addition.