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« Reply #25 on: July 16, 2011, 03:56:18 PM »

A generic Republican candidate now beats Obama 47% to 39% (Gallup Poll). I know it's early, and I'm not extrapolating this to 2012 just yet, but it does show that the GOP is far from dead.

I hate over reactionary posts like this.

In 2008 the Republican party was deemed dead. Look what happened in 2010. Dead? Yeah, ok.

The only reactionaries here are the the Republican fanboys who think that because they control one House of the US Congress that they are on their way to beat Obama.  That couldn't be further from the truth as Obama is on their prowl like a hunter in the Serengeti on a wounded cheetah.  What you can't accept is that Obama stands for progress and reform against the corporatatisthatemonger views of the Grand Old People's Party.  Obama has got the political goods, he is unbeatable.  He is the most invincible and charismatic leader since FDR bar none.  2008 was a major realignment in American politics that shifted every state in this nation towards a more positive message.  Change is good and Obama exhibits that change to the fullest extent.  When the history books are written of this next decade it won't be of the Republican Party taking back the nation, but rather falling in on their own swords before the progressive Obama onslaught.

2010 was very much a pyrrhic victory.  The Democrats and Obama let it happen so they can show the nation one last time why it's a bad idea to let the Republifascist party run the nation.  They are all out in the open now before the people who will vote them out of office in 2012 in record numbers.  You might as well give up now, Bush**te.
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« Reply #26 on: July 16, 2011, 04:37:03 PM »

How does someone with almost 10,000 posts become a troll over night? I think a case study needs to be done on Randle, or whatever his name may be......
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« Reply #27 on: July 18, 2011, 12:35:12 AM »

This thread belongs in the Comedy Goldmine.
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« Reply #28 on: July 18, 2011, 06:10:48 PM »

The Democrats appeard dead in 2004, after a weak crop of candidates let George Bush, a verifiable disaster, win re-election.

There were editorials written about Democrats being a permanent minority party, about needing to take a harsher stance against Republicans and the need to develop a strong identity as a minority party.

2 years later they took congress. 2 years later they elected the first black President, who won with the biggest margin in 20 years.

Parties fortunes can change quickly based on their Presidential candidates, and how the party in power behaves. Parties in power always  up, leaving room for opposition. And Presidential elections have always been very much personal competitions. A good Presidential candidate cna win even if the national mood is against his party.


Name one time when a Presidential candidate won when the mood was against his party?
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« Reply #29 on: July 18, 2011, 06:25:08 PM »

The Democrats appeard dead in 2004, after a weak crop of candidates let George Bush, a verifiable disaster, win re-election.

There were editorials written about Democrats being a permanent minority party, about needing to take a harsher stance against Republicans and the need to develop a strong identity as a minority party.

2 years later they took congress. 2 years later they elected the first black President, who won with the biggest margin in 20 years.

Parties fortunes can change quickly based on their Presidential candidates, and how the party in power behaves. Parties in power always  up, leaving room for opposition. And Presidential elections have always been very much personal competitions. A good Presidential candidate cna win even if the national mood is against his party.


Name one time when a Presidential candidate won when the mood was against his party?
1948
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« Reply #30 on: July 18, 2011, 06:33:59 PM »

The Democrats appeard dead in 2004, after a weak crop of candidates let George Bush, a verifiable disaster, win re-election.

There were editorials written about Democrats being a permanent minority party, about needing to take a harsher stance against Republicans and the need to develop a strong identity as a minority party.

2 years later they took congress. 2 years later they elected the first black President, who won with the biggest margin in 20 years.

Parties fortunes can change quickly based on their Presidential candidates, and how the party in power behaves. Parties in power always  up, leaving room for opposition. And Presidential elections have always been very much personal competitions. A good Presidential candidate cna win even if the national mood is against his party.


Name one time when a Presidential candidate won when the mood was against his party?
1948

1996, 1988, 1984, 1980, 1972 (assuming inability to win Congress is a sign of the mood being against the President's party).
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« Reply #31 on: July 18, 2011, 06:46:28 PM »

The Democrats appeard dead in 2004, after a weak crop of candidates let George Bush, a verifiable disaster, win re-election.

There were editorials written about Democrats being a permanent minority party, about needing to take a harsher stance against Republicans and the need to develop a strong identity as a minority party.

2 years later they took congress. 2 years later they elected the first black President, who won with the biggest margin in 20 years.

Parties fortunes can change quickly based on their Presidential candidates, and how the party in power behaves. Parties in power always  up, leaving room for opposition. And Presidential elections have always been very much personal competitions. A good Presidential candidate cna win even if the national mood is against his party.


Name one time when a Presidential candidate won when the mood was against his party?
1948

1996, 1988, 1984, 1980, 1972 (assuming inability to win Congress is a sign of the mood being against the President's party).

1996, 1988, 1984, 1972, and 1948 all had a good economy. 
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« Reply #32 on: July 18, 2011, 06:50:01 PM »

The Democrats appeard dead in 2004, after a weak crop of candidates let George Bush, a verifiable disaster, win re-election.

There were editorials written about Democrats being a permanent minority party, about needing to take a harsher stance against Republicans and the need to develop a strong identity as a minority party.

2 years later they took congress. 2 years later they elected the first black President, who won with the biggest margin in 20 years.

Parties fortunes can change quickly based on their Presidential candidates, and how the party in power behaves. Parties in power always  up, leaving room for opposition. And Presidential elections have always been very much personal competitions. A good Presidential candidate cna win even if the national mood is against his party.


Name one time when a Presidential candidate won when the mood was against his party?
1948

1996, 1988, 1984, 1980, 1972 (assuming inability to win Congress is a sign of the mood being against the President's party).

1996, 1988, 1984, 1972, and 1948 all had a good economy. 

Cool non sequitur, bro.
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« Reply #33 on: July 18, 2011, 07:04:27 PM »

The Democrats appeard dead in 2004, after a weak crop of candidates let George Bush, a verifiable disaster, win re-election.

There were editorials written about Democrats being a permanent minority party, about needing to take a harsher stance against Republicans and the need to develop a strong identity as a minority party.

2 years later they took congress. 2 years later they elected the first black President, who won with the biggest margin in 20 years.

Parties fortunes can change quickly based on their Presidential candidates, and how the party in power behaves. Parties in power always  up, leaving room for opposition. And Presidential elections have always been very much personal competitions. A good Presidential candidate cna win even if the national mood is against his party.


Name one time when a Presidential candidate won when the mood was against his party?
1948

1996, 1988, 1984, 1980, 1972 (assuming inability to win Congress is a sign of the mood being against the President's party).

1996, 1988, 1984, 1972, and 1948 all had a good economy. 

Cool non sequitur, bro.

A good economy swings the mood to the party holding the White House. 
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« Reply #34 on: July 18, 2011, 07:05:06 PM »

Name one time when a Presidential candidate won when the mood was against his party?
1948

1996, 1988, 1984, 1980, 1972 (assuming inability to win Congress is a sign of the mood being against the President's party).

'80 was clearly anti-Democratic, since they lost the Senate and about 30 House seats. The other years were just pro-incumbent, though there was a lot of anti-Gingrich sentiment in '96. '48 was primarily bad polling, like if everyone stopped polling Kerry/Bush immediately after the Democratic convention.
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« Reply #35 on: July 18, 2011, 08:32:13 PM »

Name one time when a Presidential candidate won when the mood was against his party?
1948

1996, 1988, 1984, 1980, 1972 (assuming inability to win Congress is a sign of the mood being against the President's party).

'80 was clearly anti-Democratic, since they lost the Senate and about 30 House seats. The other years were just pro-incumbent, though there was a lot of anti-Gingrich sentiment in '96. '48 was primarily bad polling, like if everyone stopped polling Kerry/Bush immediately after the Democratic convention.

And the other years were pro-incumbent generally because of a good economy. 
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« Reply #36 on: July 19, 2011, 01:14:10 PM »

This thread belongs in the Comedy Goldmine.

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« Reply #37 on: July 19, 2011, 02:26:24 PM »

If the Republican Party is really dead, does that mean the Democrats will win back the House?  Cheesy
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« Reply #38 on: July 19, 2011, 05:10:20 PM »

The Democrats appeard dead in 2004, after a weak crop of candidates let George Bush, a verifiable disaster, win re-election.

There were editorials written about Democrats being a permanent minority party, about needing to take a harsher stance against Republicans and the need to develop a strong identity as a minority party.

2 years later they took congress. 2 years later they elected the first black President, who won with the biggest margin in 20 years.

Parties fortunes can change quickly based on their Presidential candidates, and how the party in power behaves. Parties in power always  up, leaving room for opposition. And Presidential elections have always been very much personal competitions. A good Presidential candidate cna win even if the national mood is against his party.


Name one time when a Presidential candidate won when the mood was against his party?
1948

Wrong. 1956. Thomas E. Dewey lost badly in 1948.
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« Reply #39 on: July 19, 2011, 05:55:35 PM »

The Democrats appeard dead in 2004, after a weak crop of candidates let George Bush, a verifiable disaster, win re-election.

There were editorials written about Democrats being a permanent minority party, about needing to take a harsher stance against Republicans and the need to develop a strong identity as a minority party.

2 years later they took congress. 2 years later they elected the first black President, who won with the biggest margin in 20 years.

Parties fortunes can change quickly based on their Presidential candidates, and how the party in power behaves. Parties in power always  up, leaving room for opposition. And Presidential elections have always been very much personal competitions. A good Presidential candidate cna win even if the national mood is against his party.


Name one time when a Presidential candidate won when the mood was against his party?
1948

Wrong. 1956. Thomas E. Dewey lost badly in 1948.

1956 was generally pro-incumbent with a good economy.
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« Reply #40 on: July 20, 2011, 11:26:17 PM »

This thread belongs in the Comedy Goldmine.

Your love life belongs in the Comedy Goldmine

Whoa! Is that a sentence that ends without a period? The professor must be slipping.
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« Reply #41 on: May 03, 2013, 09:31:27 PM »

Bump.

What did I tell you Reacticans?  Your party is sinking faster than the RMS Titanic in the middle of the Atlantic.  Your chances of ever winning again are as slim as Jimmy Hoffa being alive.

THis is proof positive that the future belongs to the Democrats and that Obama is the most transformative figure since FDR, only more successful.  When Hillary runs in 2016 it will be the death knell to your corporatist fascist party as she takes all states except Oklahoma, Idaho, Wyoming, Utah, and Alabama.  Your Congressional losses will be so staggering people will swear you were the Whig Party and that it's 1852.

So long, Grand Old Ass Party.
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« Reply #42 on: May 03, 2013, 10:13:12 PM »

Bump.

What did I tell you Reacticans?  Your party is sinking faster than the RMS Titanic in the middle of the Atlantic.  Your chances of ever winning again are as slim as Jimmy Hoffa being alive.

THis is proof positive that the future belongs to the Democrats and that Obama is the most transformative figure since FDR, only more successful.  When Hillary runs in 2016 it will be the death knell to your corporatist fascist party as she takes all states except Oklahoma, Idaho, Wyoming, Utah, and Alabama.  Your Congressional losses will be so staggering people will swear you were the Whig Party and that it's 1852.

So long, Grand Old Ass Party.
Wait, you mean Santorum/Bachmann won't beat Hillary in key battleground states like Florida and Ohio?! Lies!! Dick Morris and Karl Rove have been telling me, they will win 45+ states!
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« Reply #43 on: May 04, 2013, 12:24:51 PM »

Obama is the most transformative figure since FDR, only more successful. 

Now this got funny.
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« Reply #44 on: May 04, 2013, 01:49:34 PM »

Yes, dead of course.  Because 47%  of people are just going to disappear or decide they're now democrats.  Squinting
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« Reply #45 on: May 06, 2013, 03:07:00 PM »
« Edited: May 06, 2013, 03:10:48 PM by Senator Kalwejt »

Yes, dead of course.  Because 47%  of people are just going to disappear or decide they're now democrats.  Squinting

Hasn't Mitt teach you that 47% doesn't matter?
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« Reply #46 on: May 06, 2013, 03:17:37 PM »

Yes, dead of course.  Because 47%  of people are just going to disappear or decide they're now democrats.  Squinting

Well according to the demographic predictions that is precisely what they are going to do, very gradually. 
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« Reply #47 on: May 07, 2013, 04:34:12 PM »

Yes, dead of course.  Because 47%  of people are just going to disappear or decide they're now democrats.  Squinting

Well according to the demographic predictions that is precisely what they are going to do, very gradually. 

He said "dead".  Not "dying", which is still debatable. 
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