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tmthforu94
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« on: November 23, 2009, 09:27:02 PM »
I'm sure this has been discussed, but I was extremely confuzzled on it...
Why did John Hosper get an EV vote from Virginia in `72? He didn't even get 5,000 votes nationwide.
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« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2009, 09:30:14 PM »
The Electoral College is not required by law to vote the way they were appointed to, it just so happened that this delegate didn't really like Nixon, so he picked his better choice.
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« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2009, 09:31:37 PM »
yeah, a faithless elector happend to like hosper.
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« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2009, 09:31:42 PM »
Oh.
So you're saying, if a bunch of members in states like, California, New York, Illinois, and Florida decide they didn't like Obama, they could legally vote McCain as the next President?
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« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2009, 09:43:46 PM »
Quote from: Senator Tmthforu94 on November 23, 2009, 09:31:42 PM
Oh.
So you're saying, if a bunch of members in states like, California, New York, Illinois, and Florida decide they didn't like Obama, they could legally vote McCain as the next President?

Yep, it's legal.
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« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2009, 09:48:44 PM »
Quote from: ♠♠♠Giovanni♠♠♠ on November 23, 2009, 09:43:46 PM
Quote from: Senator Tmthforu94 on November 23, 2009, 09:31:42 PM
Oh.
So you're saying, if a bunch of members in states like, California, New York, Illinois, and Florida decide they didn't like Obama, they could legally vote McCain as the next President?

Yep, it's legal.
In certain states it is law, I belive some will punish the elector though if they vote for someone other than who won the states populare vote.
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« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2009, 09:51:39 PM »
Quote from: Jbrase on November 23, 2009, 09:48:44 PM
Quote from: ♠♠♠Giovanni♠♠♠ on November 23, 2009, 09:43:46 PM
Quote from: Senator Tmthforu94 on November 23, 2009, 09:31:42 PM
Oh.
So you're saying, if a bunch of members in states like, California, New York, Illinois, and Florida decide they didn't like Obama, they could legally vote McCain as the next President?

Yep, it's legal.
In certain states it is law, I belive some will punish the elector though if they vote for someone other than who won the states populare vote.

Yeah, so not in the states Tmthforu described, but in Obama states like Ohio, Virginia, and possibly Penn., they could do it, I think. I'm not to up on my State laws. I do know it's legal in SC.
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« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2009, 11:33:54 PM »
On a somewhat related note, there is also the "John Eddwards" vote from Minnesota in 2004.
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« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2009, 01:38:28 AM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Faithless_elector_states.svg
The red states punish faithless electors currently.
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« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2009, 09:18:55 PM »
Quote from: SoIA NiK on November 23, 2009, 11:33:54 PM
On a somewhat related note, there is also the "John Eddwards" vote from Minnesota in 2004.

Ewards, not Eddwards.
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« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2009, 03:25:35 PM »
Quote from: ♠♠♠Giovanni♠♠♠ on November 23, 2009, 09:51:39 PM
Quote from: Jbrase on November 23, 2009, 09:48:44 PM
Quote from: ♠♠♠Giovanni♠♠♠ on November 23, 2009, 09:43:46 PM
Quote from: Senator Tmthforu94 on November 23, 2009, 09:31:42 PM
Oh.
So you're saying, if a bunch of members in states like, California, New York, Illinois, and Florida decide they didn't like Obama, they could legally vote McCain as the next President?

Yep, it's legal.
In certain states it is law, I belive some will punish the elector though if they vote for someone other than who won the states populare vote.

Yeah, so not in the states Tmthforu described, but in Obama states like Ohio, Virginia, and possibly Penn., they could do it, I think. I'm not to up on my State laws. I do know it's legal in SC.

Yeah, but the faithless electors would likely not have done that if it would have made a difference.
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« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2009, 04:46:39 PM »
also seen in the 60's with Harry F. Byrd.
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« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2009, 05:50:30 PM »
And here is the man who did it.

Not surprising that he succeeded Hospers as the Libertarian nominee....
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« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2015, 08:08:49 PM »
John Hospers' VP pick was Tonie Nathan, so Nathan, not Ferraro, was the first woman to receive an EV (though Ferraro was the first to win one).
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