The Brad Miller Thread (AKA Draw your own CD)

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

My district is the the Christie Swing-Jersey Shore Special (though it doesnt quite go from my house in Bayonne all the way down to Seaside).  This includes basically all the areas Christie over-performed his 7 point statewide swing. My ideas was to take culturally conservative white ethnics and Jews and pack as many in in North Central NJ as possible. I start in Bayonne, touch Elizabeth and Linden, take Republican areas of Woodbridge and then head into Monmouth County, stopping at Pt. Pleasant in Ocean County. I make sure to add Manalapan and Marlboro which have really swung to the GOP and have lots of Jews. There is a link through Colonia to Clark, Cranford, Kenilworth and western Linden. All of those towns I'd do well in. I'll take Perth Amboy and Carteret but not Asbury Park.

CD-6
Obama: 48.7%
McCain: 51.3%

Avg Performance:
Democratic: 48.8
Republican: 51.2

Demographics:
White: 70%
Black: 5.2%
Hispanic: 17.4%
Asian: 6%

VAP:
White: 72.4%
Black: 4.9%
Hispanic: 15.8%
Asian: 5.9%

Now I just need the pic. How do you insert em?

I'd really like to see this one. Even more, I'd like to see a full map that accomodates this district as well as the rest of our New Jersey delegation.

Imagine Frank Pallone's current district, but more Republican. It'd just snake a little further up the coast.

[jimrtex]

Oh hey, guess where I live?

Bridgewater?

[muon2]

My district is the the Christie Swing-Jersey Shore Special (though it doesnt quite go from my house in Bayonne all the way down to Seaside).  This includes basically all the areas Christie over-performed his 7 point statewide swing. My ideas was to take culturally conservative white ethnics and Jews and pack as many in in North Central NJ as possible. I start in Bayonne, touch Elizabeth and Linden, take Republican areas of Woodbridge and then head into Monmouth County, stopping at Pt. Pleasant in Ocean County. I make sure to add Manalapan and Marlboro which have really swung to the GOP and have lots of Jews. There is a link through Colonia to Clark, Cranford, Kenilworth and western Linden. All of those towns I'd do well in. I'll take Perth Amboy and Carteret but not Asbury Park.

CD-6
Obama: 48.7%
McCain: 51.3%

Avg Performance:
Democratic: 48.8
Republican: 51.2

Demographics:
White: 70%
Black: 5.2%
Hispanic: 17.4%
Asian: 6%

VAP:
White: 72.4%
Black: 4.9%
Hispanic: 15.8%
Asian: 5.9%

Now I just need the pic. How do you insert em?

I'd really like to see this one. Even more, I'd like to see a full map that accomodates this district as well as the rest of our New Jersey delegation.

Me, too. It sounds like a challenge to fit in, but not impossible. I'd need to see the proposed district since there is little wiggle room there. The second issue is whether krazen1211 is willing to drop a couple of points to take areas like Asbury Park.

[CatoMinor]

This district would be 65-35 GOP, contains my home in southeast Montgomery County, stretches up to Huntsville so it contains the University I attend, then is anchored in Ron Paul's district

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

Oh hey, guess where I live?

Bridgewater?

Nope, Bridgewater went damn near 70% for Brown, and Plymouth County is more moderate than some of the heavily Republican territory in Worcester, so that's an intentional draw.

Otherwise, there's a reason why the district meanders precinct by precinct through to safely Democratic Somerville.

[PulaskiSkywayDriver]

Here it is...

[Vazdul (Formerly Chairman of the Communist Party of Ontario)]

My district is the the Christie Swing-Jersey Shore Special (though it doesnt quite go from my house in Bayonne all the way down to Seaside).  This includes basically all the areas Christie over-performed his 7 point statewide swing. My ideas was to take culturally conservative white ethnics and Jews and pack as many in in North Central NJ as possible. I start in Bayonne, touch Elizabeth and Linden, take Republican areas of Woodbridge and then head into Monmouth County, stopping at Pt. Pleasant in Ocean County. I make sure to add Manalapan and Marlboro which have really swung to the GOP and have lots of Jews. There is a link through Colonia to Clark, Cranford, Kenilworth and western Linden. All of those towns I'd do well in. I'll take Perth Amboy and Carteret but not Asbury Park.

CD-6
Obama: 48.7%
McCain: 51.3%

Avg Performance:
Democratic: 48.8
Republican: 51.2

Demographics:
White: 70%
Black: 5.2%
Hispanic: 17.4%
Asian: 6%

VAP:
White: 72.4%
Black: 4.9%
Hispanic: 15.8%
Asian: 5.9%

Now I just need the pic. How do you insert em?

I'd really like to see this one. Even more, I'd like to see a full map that accomodates this district as well as the rest of our New Jersey delegation.

Me, too. It sounds like a challenge to fit in, but not impossible. I'd need to see the proposed district since there is little wiggle room there. The second issue is whether krazen1211 is willing to drop a couple of points to take areas like Asbury Park.

We might be able to get krazen to accept Manchester or Medford or even Tinton Falls and Eatontown in exchange for some of inland Monmouth. Still, Pulaski, as the most "junior" member of the committee, might have to take the Republican parts of Somerset County instead.

[Verily]

He doesn't have to go to Somerset; there are more Republican areas in Union County that he could take in (Mountainside, New Providence, Berkeley Heights).

Although his district and the Hispanic majority district are mutually exclusive.

[muon2]

He doesn't have to go to Somerset; there are more Republican areas in Union County that he could take in (Mountainside, New Providence, Berkeley Heights).

Although his district and the Hispanic majority district are mutually exclusive.

It also challenges the black-majority district, though both may be possible still. I'm concerned about the potential lack of contiguity. The district relies on the unpopulated ocean parcel. Does NJ permit that type of hop?

[Verily]

He doesn't have to go to Somerset; there are more Republican areas in Union County that he could take in (Mountainside, New Providence, Berkeley Heights).

Although his district and the Hispanic majority district are mutually exclusive.

It also challenges the black-majority district, though both may be possible still. I'm concerned about the potential lack of contiguity. The district relies on the unpopulated ocean parcel. Does NJ permit that type of hop?

NJ-12 does that right now, with a hop across Newark Harbor from Bayonne to Elizabeth without any bridges, ferries or other connections.

As far as I am aware, there are no limits at all on what maps the commission can draw.

[krazen1211]

He doesn't have to go to Somerset; there are more Republican areas in Union County that he could take in (Mountainside, New Providence, Berkeley Heights).

Although his district and the Hispanic majority district are mutually exclusive.

It also challenges the black-majority district, though both may be possible still. I'm concerned about the potential lack of contiguity. The district relies on the unpopulated ocean parcel. Does NJ permit that type of hop?

Connect Paterson to the Hispanic district though Kearny and northern Newark rather than into Elizabeth, then wrap Verily's Bergen County district around through North Haledon, Wayne, and go south into Verona/Livingston/etc.

You'll have to move Plainfield out of the black district or draw very tortured lines.

I would grab some of CD-12's more Republican areas and CD-12 would have to shift north to Piscataway. Though I question whether theyre's 3 districts of population south of the CD-4 and CD-12 line, though its close.

[Vazdul (Formerly Chairman of the Communist Party of Ontario)]

Okay, here's what I came up with, using the "very tortured lines method."







NJ-1 (Blue): Camden, Glassboro, Willingboro, etc. 67.5% Obama, 64.0% Democratic average.
NJ-2 (Green): Atlantic City, Vineland, etc. 54.8% Obama, 53.2% Democratic average.
NJ-3 (Purple): Cherry Hill, Moorestown, Toms River, etc. 50.6% McCain, 51.9% Republican average.
NJ-4 (Red): Krazen's district. 54.0% McCain, 56.0% Republican average.
NJ-5 (Yellow): The Hispanic-Majority district. 73.6% Obama, 73.0% Democratic average, 51.8% VAP Hispanic.
NJ-6 (Teal): Pulaski's districk. 52.7% McCain, 53.1% Republican average.
NJ-7 (Grey): Phillipsburg, Bridgewater, Plainfield, etc. 55.0% Obama, 50.8% Democratic average, and a lot of pissed off Republicans.
NJ-8 (Lavender): Passaic, Fair Lawn, Mahwah, etc. 53.0% Obama, 52.1% Democratic average.
NJ-9 (Cyan): Verily's district. 62.0% Obama, 61.9% Democratic average.
NJ-10 (Magenta): The black-majority district (barely). 83.5% Obama, 80.7% Democratic average, 50.1% VAP Hispanic.
NJ-11 (Lime Green): Newton, Morristown, Wayne, etc. 56.1% McCain, 58.8% Republican average.
NJ-12 (Light Blue): My district. 66.7% Obama, 61.5% Democratic average.

Of course, I don't know where krazen lives, so this might not be good enough.

[Vazdul (Formerly Chairman of the Communist Party of Ontario)]

Connect Paterson to the Hispanic district though Kearny and northern Newark rather than into Elizabeth, then wrap Verily's Bergen County district around through North Haledon, Wayne, and go south into Verona/Livingston/etc.

I think this method is better than the one I used, as it will free up some heavily-black Newark precincts for the black-majority district.

[krazen1211]

I actually live in Mount Laurel nowadays, but my roots are up there in Middlesex/Monmouth County.

This is the northeast.




Pink district needs about 200k people. The problem is its only 58% Obama under these lines. The slate green district is full and 52% Obama. The bright green district is 80k short and can grab them from Jersey City.

There should be enough room for a black district here.

[PulaskiSkywayDriver]

Im going to do another map later which has me move back somewhere into suburban Bergen-Essex or Passaic. Stay tuned!

[krazen1211]

The finished product.





Very GOP favored. I get a 51% McCain district, Pulaski gets a 51% Obama district, Vazdul gets a 72% Obama pack right up the highway. The grey district is also Republican.

Alternatively, the Grey district can grab more of Mercer, while the Vazdul district gets the 4th's portions of Middlesex, while the 4th grabs all that area in Burlington County.

[Vazdul (Formerly Chairman of the Communist Party of Ontario)]

The finished product.





Very GOP favored. I get a 51% McCain district, Pulaski gets a 51% Obama district, Vazdul gets a 72% Obama pack right up the highway. The grey district is also Republican.

Alternatively, the Grey district can grab more of Mercer, while the Vazdul district gets the 4th's portions of Middlesex, while the 4th grabs all that area in Burlington County.

I also get drawn out of my district. I live in Hopewell Township, and I insist on a Mercer County-based district (at least as far as is reasonable). I'd even rather have the Republicans around Flemington than places like Plainfield and Woodbridge- I'm simply more familiar with them. I'm also white, and afraid that your map might leave me vulnerable to a racially-motivated primary (although there's no one racial group that would be dominant).

Other than that, the north looks about as good as can be expected. It's much cleaner than my Newark-Paterson black majority district that gives Torie's "gorgeous octopus" a run for its money.

[PulaskiSkywayDriver]

This is the I move to Nutley or Caldwell scenario. It incorporates my four previous residences and my current workplace:


Note I only have small parts of Bergen and Morris, both of which have strong GOP organizations. I take the conservative parts of Union, Essex and Passaic. I have a lot of contacts in this district.

Stats:
Pop:
73.5% Wh
3.6% Black
12.8% Hispanic
8.5% Asian

VAP:
75% White
3.5% Black
11.7% Hispanic
8.3% Asian

Pres 2008:
Obama: 48.6%
McCain: 51.4%

Avg.
Dem: 48.5%
Rep: 51.5%

Towns:
Bergen: Fair Lawn, Elmwood Park, Saddle Brook, Lodi (Part), Hasbrouck Heights, Glen Rock, Ridgewood, Midland Park, Franklin Lks, Wyckoff, Oakland, Lyndhurst, North Arlington

Essex: Belleville (Wards 1, 2, 4), Bloomfield, Caldwells, Fairfield, Essex Fells, Cedar Grove, Verona, West Orange (part of 4th Ward), Livingston, Nutley, Roseland, Glen Ridge

Morris: East Hanover, Chatham, Riverdale, Butler, Florham Pk, Montville (Part), Riverdale

Union: Summit, New Providence, Berkeley Heights, Mountainside

Passaic: Clifton (Part), Passaic Pk, Little Falls, Woodland Pk, Totowa, Wayne, North Haledon, Hawthorne, Haledon (part), Wanaque, Bloominngdale, Pompton Lks.

[krazen1211]

The finished product.





Very GOP favored. I get a 51% McCain district, Pulaski gets a 51% Obama district, Vazdul gets a 72% Obama pack right up the highway. The grey district is also Republican.

Alternatively, the Grey district can grab more of Mercer, while the Vazdul district gets the 4th's portions of Middlesex, while the 4th grabs all that area in Burlington County.

I also get drawn out of my district. I live in Hopewell Township, and I insist on a Mercer County-based district (at least as far as is reasonable). I'd even rather have the Republicans around Flemington than places like Plainfield and Woodbridge- I'm simply more familiar with them. I'm also white, and afraid that your map might leave me vulnerable to a racially-motivated primary (although there's no one racial group that would be dominant).

Other than that, the north looks about as good as can be expected. It's much cleaner than my Newark-Paterson black majority district that gives Torie's "gorgeous octopus" a run for its money.

Thanks. Those are easily fixable as the point is to draw districts for us and not poor Leonard Lance, who's going to get a bunch of Democrats. I'll probably give CD-4 your Burlington section so you can have East Windsor.

[krazen1211]

I really have to snake you up to Perth Amboy a bit to protect Pulaski. How's this? All of Mercer except the Republican areas.




The only other change would be if you wanted Lower Somerset. Then the red district would take a bit more of the Perth Amboy/Methuchen area.

[Vazdul (Formerly Chairman of the Communist Party of Ontario)]

I really have to snake you up to Perth Amboy a bit to protect Pulaski. How's this? All of Mercer except the Republican areas.




The only other change would be if you wanted Lower Somerset. Then the red district would take a bit more of the Perth Amboy/Methuchen area.

I'll take the rest of Franklin Twp., Montgomery Twp., Rocky Hill, East Amwell Twp., Raritan Twp., and Flemington to get me as far out of Perth Amboy, Woodbridge, and Edison as that will take me.

[Torie]

How did the state which my Commercial Law professor (an interesting guy - at once brilliant, iconoclast, and a former navy fighter jet pilot (he wrote an article in the WSJ over "Tailgate," that if you want someone other than pussies flying these bad ass machines, then you are going to have to put up with their hard play games) and in fantastic physical shape), characterized as the state "where the garbage meets the sea," take over this thread?  What the F is so fascinating about a state where honesty in government is  considered a concept for the rubes and the dumbs? 

[Vazdul (Formerly Chairman of the Communist Party of Ontario)]

How did the state which my Commercial Law professor (an interesting guy - at once brilliant, iconoclast, and a former navy fighter jet pilot (he wrote an article in the WSJ over "Tailgate," that if you want someone other than pussies flying these bad ass machines, then you are going to have to put up with their hard play games) and in fantastic physical shape), characterized as the state "where the garbage meets the sea," take over this thread?  What the F is so fascinating about a state where honesty in government is  considered a concept for the rubes and the dumbs? 

I don't know. What do you think is so interesting about California?

[TheDeadFlagBlues]

Here is my little CD which I think would maximize my potential. There is definitely a method to my madness.. Who is perspicacious enough to figure out my modus operandi here I wonder?  

Were you trying to draw a socially liberal, marijuana belt of the wealthy whites?

[Bo]

Does your CD have to be located in your state? Because I'm not sure I'll be able to draw a CD that accurately represents all my views in my state (California). It would be much easier for me to draw a CD for myself in the South or Midwest.