Drivers Licenses for Illegal Aliens?

[David S]

Unfortunately, you will probably see some posters dogmatically protesting in favor of illegal aliens and their 'rights.'

What I have been saying in a number of posts here lately is that it is time the Democrats 'clean house,' much as they did in 1948 (when they expunged the communists and their fellow travelers). 

Democrats need to reject the out of control homosexual lobby.

Democrats need to reject the intolerant anthiests.

Democrats need to reject the defenders of illegal immigration.

Democrats need to reject the hoplaphobes.

Democrats need to reject those who would impose quotas on our country.

In short, Democrats need to kick out the loony tune left, and listen to sensible America.

Sounds like the Democrats need to kick out the Democrats! 

[John Dibble]

Forget that. Do governments make decisions, or do individual people make decisions?

Do governments think, or do people think?

When you get down to it, individuals are governments to - they govern their own behavior. So, therefore people can own things by Kodrastos's logic, since they are governments unto themselves.

[Kodratos]

Forget that. Do governments make decisions, or do individual people make decisions?

Do governments think, or do people think?

Governments make decisions. The Government thinks for the people.

Individuals have no say in the United States government.

[CARLHAYDEN]

Unfortunately, you will probably see some posters dogmatically protesting in favor of illegal aliens and their 'rights.'

What I have been saying in a number of posts here lately is that it is time the Democrats 'clean house,' much as they did in 1948 (when they expunged the communists and their fellow travelers). 

Democrats need to reject the out of control homosexual lobby.

Democrats need to reject the intolerant anthiests.

Democrats need to reject the defenders of illegal immigration.

Democrats need to reject the hoplaphobes.

Democrats need to reject those who would impose quotas on our country.

In short, Democrats need to kick out the loony tune left, and listen to sensible America.

Sounds like the Democrats need to kick out the Democrats! 

Just as in 1948 there was a conflict between patriotic American Democrats and Wallicite Communists and there fellow travelers, today there is a conflict between patriotic reasonable Democrats, a left wing kooks.

Its time to kick the kooks out again!

[A18]

Forget that. Do governments make decisions, or do individual people make decisions?

Do governments think, or do people think?

Governments make decisions. The Government thinks for the people.

Individuals have no say in the United States government.

So if all people died tomorrow, there would still be governments?

[Kodratos]

Forget that. Do governments make decisions, or do individual people make decisions?

Do governments think, or do people think?

Governments make decisions. The Government thinks for the people.

Individuals have no say in the United States government.

So if all people died tomorrow, there would still be governments?

Why would all of the people die?

[A18]

They committed suicide for fun.

[The Duke]

Does ANYONE on this message board actually support giving driver's licenses to illegal aliens?

As long as they are paying taxes they should be entitled to any government service.

By definition, no illegal immigrant pays taxes because as soon as they fill out a tax form, the government figures out they are here illegally and goes to the address on the form to deport them.

The only exception is those who have a fake social security number, in which case they go to jail for identity fraud, and are then deported.

Does ANYONE on this message board actually support giving driver's licenses to illegal aliens?

As long as they are paying taxes they should be entitled to any government service.

What part of "illegal" don't you understand?

They shouldn't be "illegal". Anyone who wants to come to this country and work should be able to without having to go through the near-impossible immigration system. To deny good hard-working people that right is un-American.

And to have an open border without restrictions is impractical.

I'm not sure you've thought your position out fully.  In fact, I'm quite sure you haven't.

[John Dibble]

Forget that. Do governments make decisions, or do individual people make decisions?

Do governments think, or do people think?

Governments make decisions. The Government thinks for the people.

Individuals have no say in the United States government.

So, I ask you again, what the hell is voting.

Also, the President is an individual - he has a pretty big say in how the government runs. Every last elected official is an individual, actually - they all have a say in the government. Those officials are elected by the collective votes of individuals.

There is one simple fact about every government - they can not exist without the consent of the people. If the masses rise up, government fails. Of course, the masses can be quelled by force, but it is the choice of those people to stop resisting - they consent to government out of fear. All forms of government rely on having a populace that actually will listen to them. Without the people, government can't exist. Without the government, people can still exist.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Unfortunately, you will probably see some posters dogmatically protesting in favor of illegal aliens and their 'rights.'

What I have been saying in a number of posts here lately is that it is time the Democrats 'clean house,' much as they did in 1948 (when they expunged the communists and their fellow travelers). 

Democrats need to reject the out of control homosexual lobby.

Democrats need to reject the intolerant anthiests.

Democrats need to reject the defenders of illegal immigration.

Democrats need to reject the hoplaphobes.

Democrats need to reject those who would impose quotas on our country.

In short, Democrats need to kick out the loony tune left, and listen to sensible America.

on what issues should the Democrats differ from the Republicans in your view?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Does ANYONE on this message board actually support giving driver's licenses to illegal aliens?

considering you think there shouldn't even be driver's licenses, I don't see why you would oppose it.

[CARLHAYDEN]

Unfortunately, you will probably see some posters dogmatically protesting in favor of illegal aliens and their 'rights.'

What I have been saying in a number of posts here lately is that it is time the Democrats 'clean house,' much as they did in 1948 (when they expunged the communists and their fellow travelers). 

Democrats need to reject the out of control homosexual lobby.

Democrats need to reject the intolerant anthiests.

Democrats need to reject the defenders of illegal immigration.

Democrats need to reject the hoplaphobes.

Democrats need to reject those who would impose quotas on our country.

In short, Democrats need to kick out the loony tune left, and listen to sensible America.

on what issues should the Democrats differ from the Republicans in your view?

Let me list a sampling, running the span of issues:

Foreign Policy

The United States government, via a number of international agencies, has been guaranteeing loans to foreign government which would not be made in absence of those guarantees.  If those loans had not been made, more funds would be available at lower rates for people in the United States.  STOP THOSE LOAN GUARANTEES NOW111

National Defense

The benefit packages for active duty, reserve and retired armed forces personnel are woefully inadequate.  We owe an obligation to those wonderful people (and their families) which should have FIRST CALL on spending.

Economics

Large corporations are giving their executives outrageously generous compensation packages because they are able to write off the costs of such expenditures on their corporate taxes.  I believe we should CAP the expenses which can be deducted from corporate taxesfor compensation of corporate officers to the compensation level provided for the President of the United States. 

I also believe that corporations should be required in their annual statements to publish the compensation package for all employees receiving compensation at a level in excess of that for the President of the United States.

While I support farm price supports for the 'family farm,' I oppose subsidy of large corporate farms.

Social policy

Its really hard to say, as the Republicans SAY one thing, and do another.

I believe we should END racial preferences (for real).

I believe that we should REALLY enforce immigration laws!

I believe in legalization of marijuana for adults.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

so outside of ending corporate welfare and legalizing marijuana, you think the Democrats should be to the RIGHT of the Republicans. And I think the Republicans should be socialist.

[A18]

Does ANYONE on this message board actually support giving driver's licenses to illegal aliens?

considering you think there shouldn't even be driver's licenses, I don't see why you would oppose it.

Considering I don't even think there should be illegal immigrants, I do see why I would oppose it.

[CARLHAYDEN]

so outside of ending corporate welfare and legalizing marijuana, you think the Democrats should be to the RIGHT of the Republicans. And I think the Republicans should be socialist.

I gave you a sampling of examples.

I noted that in the tradition of Jefferson, we need less government intervention and spending, and in the tradition of Jackson, we need less dictated from unelected judges and bureaucrats and more imput from average citizens.

I also would like to see candidates who say what they mean, and mean what they way.

Bush is really going to get himself into trouble over his failure to ACT to stop the illegal immigration.

[David S]

Give driver licenses to illegal aliens and while  we are it lets give guns to bank robbers. What the Hell!! Illegal is illegal!  If they come here by legal means thats fine but if they are here illegally pack them up and ship them back home. Enforce the law! What's so hard to understand about that?

[phk]

Why can't you guys support Free Trade?

Our corporations can increase thier profit margins thanks to these guys. Illegal Immigrants will way boost the economy, especially if they increase the demand for cars.

I'm going to become a Libertarian now.