Spanish Notable Politicians (since 1979) - Santiago Carrillo is Survivor!!!

[Niemeyerite]

I wasn't going to vote Aznar that early.. but I hate him too much

[Nhoj]

2 for Mariano Rajoy
1 for José Antonio Ardanza

[Hash]

2 Rajoy
1 Aznar

[Niemeyerite]

Time for conservative people... and the last 2 PP candidates:

Mariano Rajoy Brey - 8 votes


José María Aznar - 4 votes


José Antonio Ardanza 4 votes

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Jordi Pujol i Soley - 3 votes
Pedro Solbes Mira - 3 votes

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Two politicians will be eliminated. 1 vote to eliminate, 1 to keep.

[big bad fab]

OK, as Aznar is ousted, I'd like to oust Zapatero immediately, but I know I'd have a cordon sanitaire around him...

Aznar wasn't likeable personally, but he achieved something important politically by making the right electable again.

Eliminate
Maria Teresa Fernandez de la Vega

Keep
Ruiz-Gallardon
(I'm forced to foresee another stupid vote )

[Niemeyerite]

Eliminate Esperanza Aguirre

Keep Pedro Solbes


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big bad, if Aznar had been a moderate person, PP should have won in 2004... the Irak war killed Rajoy's chances... and in 2008, PP would have won if people in Catalonia and the Basque Country had stayed home as usual... nationalists, moderates, socialists, communists, and even conservatives there voted PSOE because they were afraid of a PP presidency (Aznar and his ministers really hated Basques and Catalonians).

[Nhoj]

Eliminate
Maria Teresa Fernandez de la Vega

keep
Esperanza Aguirre

[big bad fab]

In 2004, PP was about to win, even though with a short margin (due to Iraq).
It lost because Aznar lied about terrorism and rushed to accuse the ETA.

The fact that Zapatero was the surprising winner, almost by default and because Aznar was too confident and proud of himself, is, in itself, quite an achievement for a PP which was still identified as franquist.

I don't like Aznar at all, but he wasn't so bad electorally and politically speaking.
I'm not interested in policies, just in politics, you see .

Anyway.
I'll kill you twice for trying to oust also Esperanza .

I hope you guys will spare Rato for some rounds, at least .

[Hash]

eliminate Esperanza Aguirre
keep Jordi Pujol

Aznar was a reactionary anti-Basque bigot whose nationalist/regionalist=terrorist amalgam was typical Francoist bullcrap. Maybe it's a pity ETA didn't blow his ass up.

[BenNebbich]

Eliminate
Maria Teresa Fernandez de la Vega

keep
Esperanza Aguirre

[Hans-im-Glück]

Eliminate:
Jordi Pujol i Soley

Keep:
Esperanza Aguirre

[Niemeyerite]

BBF, do you like Esperanza Aguirre? =( she has been the worst president we've had here in Madrid... she has not done ONE thing carefully
And I'm wondering why do you want to eliminate Pujol before Aguirre.. I don't like them, but Pujol is a beloved ex-president of Catalonia, and she's our... our problem here in Madrid.

[Edu]

Eliminate Esperanza Aguirre

Keep Maria Teresa Fernandez de la Vega

[Niemeyerite]

Time for ugly people:

María Teresa Fernández de la Vega - 2 votes



Jordi Pujol i Soley (aka Yoda) - 0 votes (more votes in previous rounds)



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Esperanza Aguirre - 0 votes
Alberto Ruíz Gallardón - -1 vote
Pedro Solbes Mira - -1 vote

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This round, 2 votes to eliminate. One to give inmunity until round 10.

[big bad fab]

BBF, do you like Esperanza Aguirre? =( she has been the worst president we've had here in Madrid... she has not done ONE thing carefully
And I'm wondering why do you want to eliminate Pujol before Aguirre.. I don't like them, but Pujol is a beloved ex-president of Catalonia, and she's our... our problem here in Madrid.

I'll regret Pujol.

As for Aguirre, it's again politics, not policies.
I don't know her very well, I'm just interested in internal fightings and shenanigans inside the PP, a bit like for the French PS .

And don't forget that if there was a similar survivor for France, you'd vote to save Royal , which makes all the French posters to ROFL, whatever their political positioning .
So, I guess I'm entitled to try to keep Aguirre (though I, in fact, opted for Ruiz-Gallardon, not Esperanza ).

[big bad fab]

Eliminate
Anguita
Chacon

Immunize
Bono

[Hans-im-Glück]

Eliminate:
Esperanza Aguirre
Carme Chacon

Immunize:
Santiago Carrillo

[Nhoj]

Eliminate:
Pedro Solbes Mira
Julio Anguita

Immunize
Carme Chacon

[BenNebbich]

2 Chacon
1 Bono

Immunize

Carillo

[Edu]

Esperanza Aguirre
Julio Anguita

Immunity for Carme Chacon

[Niemeyerite]

Esperanza Aguirre
Julio Anguita

Immunity for Carme Chacon

this. it may be the 1st. or 2nd. time Edu and I vote exactly the same =)

[Edu]

this. it may be the 1st. or 2nd. time Edu and I vote exactly the same =)

It's funny, cause i probably have much more in common with you than with many here I suppose that my philosophy of not letting PSOE go deep in survivors because they always do that, is what keeps us apart during voting times

[Niemeyerite]

this. it may be the 1st. or 2nd. time Edu and I vote exactly the same =)

It's funny, cause i probably have much more in common with you than with many here I suppose that my philosophy of not letting PSOE go deep in survivors because they always do that, is what keeps us apart during voting times

that's probably right hahaha.. I only vote to keep PSOE always because I'm a member of that party... and I know you always try to eliminate the "estabilishment" favourites, while I usually vote to eliminate the least important parties/people/clubs...
But I suppose you're a leftist, like me.

[Niemeyerite]

Time for the radicals:

Julio Anguite - 4 votes



Esperanza Aguirre - 3 votes (more votes in the previous round)



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Carme Chacón - 3 votes
Pedro Solbes - 1 vote
José Bono - 1 vote

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Chacón is inmune. You have now 3 votes to eliminate.

[big bad fab]

Eliminate
2 Juan Carlos Rodriguez Ibarra
1 Eduardo Zaplana

(I really want to eliminate Zapatero -all the others are now more interesting than him- but I know it would be a wasted vote -next round maybe )