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« on: February 06, 2011, 06:38:22 PM »
« edited: February 06, 2011, 07:31:32 PM by phknrocket1k »
Nothing to terribly surprising. Only one where you can't come up with a simple explanation for is Wyoming.

Alabama
39.86 in 88 > 38.74 in 08

Arkansas
42.19% in 88 > 38.86% in 08

Idaho
36.01% in 88 > 35.91% in 08

Iowa
54.71% in 08 > 53.93% in 08

Kansas
42.56% in 88 > 41.55% in 08

Kentucky
43.88%in 88 > 41.15% in 08

Louisiana
44.06% in 88 > 39.93% in 08

Oklahoma
41.28% in 88 > 34.35% in 08

South Dakota
46.51% in 88 > 44.1% in 08

West Virginia
52.20% in 88 > 42.51% in 08

Wyoming
38.01% in 88 > 32.54% in 08
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« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2011, 09:00:20 PM »
I'm surprised that Tennessee isn't in that list.
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« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2011, 09:45:00 PM »
Quote from: Landslide Lyndon on February 06, 2011, 09:00:20 PM
I'm surprised that Tennessee isn't in that list.

It was pretty close, but the Dems' recent collapse in the rural Tennessee valley was more than made up for by Obama's good showing in the bigger cities. We're a more urban state than most of those on the list.
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« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2011, 10:01:26 PM »

Boy has Oklahoma changed since 1988.
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« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2011, 10:12:48 PM »
The GOP has changed also. In the 80s, they were a prestige brand. By 2008, not so much.
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« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2011, 10:40:27 PM »
In Texas, Obama did a lot better in Dallas and Harris Counties. He got 57.15% in Dallas County compared to the 40.91% Dukakis got. In Harris he got 50.45% compared to the 42.12% Dukakis got. He also made the blood red suburban counties not as republican like Collin County and came close to winning Fort Bend County. But there are a bunch of rural counties that Dukakis won, that went for McCain that pretty much offset the gains Obama made.
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« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2011, 10:47:48 PM »
Quote from: freepcrusher on February 06, 2011, 10:40:27 PM
In Texas, Obama did a lot better in Dallas and Harris Counties. He got 57.15% in Dallas County compared to the 40.91% Dukakis got. In Harris he got 50.45% compared to the 42.12% Dukakis got. He also made the blood red suburban counties not as republican like Collin County and came close to winning Fort Bend County. But there are a bunch of rural counties that Dukakis won, that went for McCain that pretty much offset the gains Obama made.

Texas is so much more Hispanic than back then. Especially in the big counties.
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« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2011, 10:53:55 PM »
Didn't Dukakis do better in Kansas and Iowa than Obama did? 
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« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2011, 11:08:26 PM »
Quote from: Pacific Councilor Mr. Fuzzleton on February 06, 2011, 10:53:55 PM
Didn't Dukakis do better in Kansas and Iowa than Obama did? 

Yes he did. Check the post.
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« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2011, 06:11:33 PM »

Wow, I didn't see those states when I checked.  My bad.
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« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2011, 12:22:51 AM »
Funny thing that Dukakis performer better in such states, while performing relatively poorly in Northeast, including an unimpressive win in his home state.
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« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2011, 03:12:16 PM »
Here is the 1988-2008 State trend map. I guess this can be a good key to understand the results above.
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« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2011, 06:38:24 PM »
Why did Dukakis do so badly in Florida?
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« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2011, 09:48:18 AM »

Historically, Florida was one of the most republican Southern States. It voted for Eisenhower two times, Nixon three times and barely voted for Johnson and Carter.
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« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2011, 05:45:23 PM »
Quote from: phk on February 06, 2011, 06:38:22 PM
Nothing to terribly surprising. Only one where you can't come up with a simple explanation for is Wyoming.

Alabama

Racism.

Arkansas

Racism.

Idaho

Farm crisis.

Iowa

Farm crisis.

Kansas

Farm crisis.


Kentucky

Racism.

Louisiana

Racism.

Oklahoma

Racism, farm crisis.

South Dakota

Farm crisis.

West Virginia

Racism.

Wyoming

Farm crisis.
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« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2011, 06:32:58 PM »
Quote from: Snowstalker on April 30, 2011, 05:45:23 PM
Quote from: phk on February 06, 2011, 06:38:22 PM
Nothing to terribly surprising. Only one where you can't come up with a simple explanation for is Wyoming.

Alabama

Racism.

Arkansas

Racism.

Idaho

Farm crisis.

Iowa

Farm crisis.

Kansas

Farm crisis.


Kentucky

Racism.

Louisiana

Racism.

Oklahoma

Racism, farm crisis.

South Dakota

Farm crisis.

West Virginia

Racism.

Wyoming

Farm crisis.


lol
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« Reply #16 on: May 02, 2011, 06:50:23 AM »
1992 Brady bill and gun control and well as cutural issudes accounted for more of the change over.  And black candidates who tend to do fairhly poorly with the cutural issues do even worse on gun control.
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« Reply #17 on: May 02, 2011, 12:30:48 PM »

I have a feeling Willie Horton might've done a better job scaring retirees than most people.
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« Reply #18 on: May 02, 2011, 05:58:39 PM »
Quote from: Mr. Fuzzleton on April 30, 2011, 06:32:58 PM
Quote from: Snowstalker on April 30, 2011, 05:45:23 PM
Quote from: phk on February 06, 2011, 06:38:22 PM
Nothing to terribly surprising. Only one where you can't come up with a simple explanation for is Wyoming.

Alabama

Racism.

Arkansas

Racism.

Idaho

Farm crisis.

Iowa

Farm crisis.

Kansas

Farm crisis.


Kentucky

Racism.

Louisiana

Racism.

Oklahoma

Racism, farm crisis.

South Dakota

Farm crisis.

West Virginia

Racism.

Wyoming

Farm crisis.


lol

Is Wyoming even agricultural?
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« Reply #19 on: May 02, 2011, 08:48:47 PM »
Quote from: Snowstalker on April 30, 2011, 05:45:23 PM
Quote from: phk on February 06, 2011, 06:38:22 PM
Nothing to terribly surprising. Only one where you can't come up with a simple explanation for is Wyoming.

Alabama

Racism.

Arkansas

Racism.

Idaho

Farm crisis.

Iowa

Farm crisis.

Kansas

Farm crisis.


Kentucky

Racism.

Louisiana

Racism.

Oklahoma

Racism, farm crisis.

South Dakota

Farm crisis.

West Virginia

Racism.

Wyoming

Farm crisis.


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