Canadian Election Results Thread

[Holmes]

Thanks for updates everyone. Hope NDP comes up ahead in Central Nova! But seems less and less likely.

[Holmes]

cons +2 seat in atlantic, but down in % popular of vote #elxn41 #tweettheresults
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Sad.

[Holmes]

Who is OurVoteCanada?

[Holmes]

Wow, what a crazy night. At lot of upsets! And squeakers. So much close NDP races, especially in the GTA and Saskatchewan. The NDP did pretty well in Toronto, and especially the Conservatives too. Or perhaps, the Liberals seriously underperformed. Of course, I hate the results, but a potential realignment election is always fun.

I'm sad Timmins-James Bay swung away from the NDP. But honestly, where did the Conservatives' strength (for lack of a better term) come from in the riding? I honestly have seen no Conservative lawn signs anywhere here in Timmins. Many NDP signs, and a few Liberal ones. Strange. Also, lol at York West. Now the most Liberal riding in Toronto? That's where I live during school... I hate the MP there.

[Holmes]

It seems that last night's election confirms that once again Alberta is the best Canadian province.

hurrr.

[Holmes]

That's the GTA, not Toronto. Toronto is actually only just the NDP and Liberal ridings near Lake Ontario. Etobicoke, North York and Scarborough are in Toronto, technically, but are pretty different. The rest outside (Mississauga, Brampton, Pickering, Vaughan, there's a sh**tload) is the GTA.

[Holmes]

Hmm. Maybe it's time for northern Ontario secession discussions again. We can be called "Better Ontario", or "The Non-Sheep Ontario".

Thanks for the maps!

[Holmes]

That's the GTA, not Toronto. Toronto is actually only just the NDP and Liberal ridings near Lake Ontario. Etobicoke, North York and Scarborough are in Toronto, technically, but are pretty different. The rest outside (Mississauga, Brampton, Pickering, Vaughan, there's a sh**tload) is the GTA.

That's kind of like saying Brooklyn and the Bronx aren't New York City.  As a legal and practical matter, Toronto is much more than just the NDP and Liberal ridings near Lake Ontario.  The Etobicoke, Scarborough and the Don Valley ridings that were won the by Tories are in Toronto - since amalgamation in 1998 or, arguably, 1954 when the metropolitan government of Toronto was first created.  The Tory areas in Mississauga or Vaughn are not.

I was referring to the amalgamation when I used the term "technically" - the "former" Toronto is what I referenced to when I talked about the ridings near Lake Ontario. Downtown Toronto is very different from Etobicoke, which is different from Scarborough, which is different from North York, etc. They're all different culturally and politically, and the latter are more like suburbs, as you can see from the results. And even the 2010 mayoral race, Ford won everything outside of downtown, so I can't say I'm really surprised by the Conservatives' showing. But yeah, a lot of people, when referring to Toronto, still just mean downtown.

But yeah, I hate when people are referring to the GTA, and call it Toronto. Big difference.

[Holmes]

Yeah, but seeing as the Conservatives won their majority, the media only cares about their inroads.

As for Bramalea-Gore-Malton, less than a 1% loss! How sad. Have you seen any debate videos? Singh was the only one not reading any papers, was very articulate and on point, and was the only one (Green candidate not counting) who didn't speak with a heavy accent -- although that's probably not a con in that riding. He seemed like a great candidate, I hope he runs again, but with the election probably in four years, it seems too premature to start discussing future candidates.

[Holmes]

What worries me is the NDP losses outside of Quebec... with nearly 60% of the caucus now coming from there, and many of the newbies being totally new to politics, I hope they remember that the party stands for labour and farmers' rights. Many of the (serious) candidates outside of the province were serious FFs in that regard, whereas a lot of the winners in Quebec don't seem to be... maybe I'm worrying for nothing.

[Holmes]

Quebec may be new territory for the NDP, but they haven't had too much trouble maintaining francophone support once they've obtained it. After all, northern Ontario is a very francophone region, relative to the rest of the country, and the NDP is the most popular party there. Granted, Quebec francophones are different from northern Ontario francophones, but not as much as, say, western ones.

[Holmes]

Haha, I have Charlie Angus on my friends list on Facebook, and he's always posting videos like that. Having Cash also in Parliament should be fun.

[Holmes]

Ruth Ellen Brosseau in her riding.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guCdS1ABm9M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91sxKz7jLkA

Her French is a bit awkward, but she can speak it.

[Holmes]

North Bay is much more Conservative than the rest of northern Ontario. Plus the complete Liberal collapse outside (and even inside) of urban centers. Still, Nipissing-Timiskaming was fairly close. As for Etobicoke Centre, eh... Rob Ford won it handily. Plus Liberal collapse. And maybe the Conservatives' constant attacks against Ignatieff might have played a part as well. He never really seemed to win convincingly.

[Holmes]

Thank you!

Also, I'm kinda disappointed Leitch wasn't chosen for a cabinet role. Of all the idiots there is in the caucus, at least she's an actual doctor.

[Holmes]

Rae seems to be a good fit for Toronto Centre, but I definitely agree that the NDP can win it if he's out. Seems like the NDP is becoming the party of the old city, definitely so if the Liberals continue to be shut out. But as for Etobicoke North and York West, I see them voting Tory before the NDP. That part of the city has more in common with the 905 than the rest of the city.

Of course, 2015 is quite a while away too.

edit: I was looking through some old articles, and . The largest newspaper in Timmins-James Bay, and my city's own, is such a Conservative shill. link. They seem to be under the impression that the only issue affecting people in Northern Ontario is the long-gun registry, and not things such as a declining forestry industry, losing 700 local jobs due to the closing of Xstrata Copper, threats to our vast lakes and forests, and a negligent federal and provincial government. It's no wonder why every other party other than the NDP gets shut out here, they think we're single issue voters who care more about guns than livelihood. Idiots.

[Holmes]

Says NDP are at 31% in Ontario whereas Liberals are at 20%... wait, this doesn't really matter, the election is in 4 years. Maybe some of that will spill over into the provincial election in the fall, but whatever. *shrug*

[Holmes]

I thought he left the NDP so to not seem like a partisan mayor... although near the end of his term, I think he had quite a few separate issues.

[Holmes]

Why does everyone include Parry Sound-Muskoka in Northern Ontario? geez. It's hardly northern.

[Holmes]

Cool beans. Doubt that choosing Rae as interim leader and staying in the dark "restructuring" for a few years will really get them out of the mid to high 10's.

[Holmes]

The NDP's worst riding was Crowfoot, and they still managed to finish 2nd there.

Well, yes, the Liberal party is a total joke in Alberta, apart from some areas in the northern part of Calgary (although 15% there isn't any better than <5% everywhere else). Same for Saskatchewan. Not that the NDP is any better... just a consistent second place.

[Holmes]

53%? That'd nearly be a sweep of all seats. Heh. Also, wow at Bloc in third. Hopefully these numbers can stick until the next election, and the NDP doesn't piss off English Canada in the meantime. It'll be quite a balancing act. Well, the election isn't for four years anyway, so whatever.

Here's an English version: http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2011/06/24/ndp-quebec-support-bloc-quebecios_n_883287.html

[Holmes]

Well, for what it's worth, Joe Comuzzi did switch to the Tories, although he was re-elected as a Liberal.

[Holmes]

The NDP in those provinces did receive significant boosts following the federal election, fwiw. As for the Nova Scotia NDP, it's popular-ish, but not comparable to when it was first elected. But honestly, making comparisons between federal and provincial elections is kind of futile, no?

[Holmes]

Well, I guess it's easy to be non-controversial when you stick to the talking points, are a backbencher and don't put yourself out there for everyone to see. Her first question during question period was very much on script, but she's trying. *shrug*