Osama bin Laden dead (Official)

[exopolitician]

It's amazing how some in the international community are slamming America for Bin Laden's death.

[Brittain33]

I'm eager to see if Eric Cantor responds to this the way he had responded to drops in the unemployment rate since November.

[NHI]

God Bless America.

[Joe Republic]

It's amazing how some in the international community are slamming America for Bin Laden's death.

Who?

[danny]

It's amazing how some in the international community are slamming America for Bin Laden's death.

Who?

As far as I can tell, only Hamas, even the Muslim Brotherhood avoided condemning America and just said that now that he is dead America should "stop occupying Muslim land", which is what they were saying before anyway.

[Badger]

I hate it. He is just horrible. He being obama.

How so?

Well I really hate it when people use patriotism as a licence to kill. Our people? you kidding me? The only thing that makes us American is us just saying we are. nothing else. I find is dishonest. It makes me want to vomit when he pulls a card like that. Be honest and keep the facts clean. And stop brainwashing us into thinking we are one when we dont even know half of the people living in America. yuck!

What's the point of having a country then?  Or the point of unity?  Or of patriotism all in of itself?

there is a point. But it is merely to make social connections. But it should never be used to end someones life and to make to seem that is ok. That makes me mad. A life is a life, and to make us think that because we are 'Americans' we have to right to kill someone despite what they have done, and are 'defending our people' is crap. There is no need to lie. If you are going to kill someone it should be because he has killed many people. Not because he killed Americans. Had they not been Americans obama would not give a sh**t.

And which one do you think matters more to the Americans?  That he killed Americans or that he killed people?  As you said, we do not know half the country itself, but I think it is safe to say that more than half care about the death of Americans than the death of people as a whole.

I disagree. I care far more when patriotism is out of the question. Honestly, i care more about people dying period. Not Americans. And it is rather low to party over someone dying! no matter what it is just rude. If justice is served already there is not need to dance about in the streets. Partying makes the theory of justice just dissolve away. There is no justice. Man i despise people right now.

I can appreciate where your coming from. I don't like to see people jubiliant over anyone's death, but really it is understandable, when you consider how he did set out to kill Americans, so Osama made himself the enemy of all Americans.  He has been the focus of people's hurt over the attacks on 9/11 and fears of another attack, so this feels like a relief, though I don't know how much it will make people safer. I do hope no innocent people died in the attack, but sadly it's likely someone did.

Well you see take out Americans and then I will take this as a matter for humanity. But as of the fact that you yourself are using americans as a group, as a whole, I shall not. And if you think that him dying will help us you are wrong! He has a man in charge incase anything happens to him. And this partying will only fuel that fire as well, thereby subjecting humans to more casualties when they attack again.  But no one thinks about that. No one sees how much more harm this partying is doing. And attacks will increase. They will probably go for DC now. And will most likely succeed.
And to be the enemy of all americans? rly? That is effed up. everyone around the world should be upset that this is happening period. Even people in china and India. But i presume that these attacks increased with us merely occupying them.

Badger:
Celebration my ass. I dont care if justice was served. When someone dies you simply don't party. Do you not know that this will add fuel to the fire? We are no where near done. Yes he should die, I agree with that seniment, but my reason differs from most people. If your reason is nationalistic I would disagree. If it is purely on the fact that he has killed someone then yes, we agree. But it is important to notice the difference between the two different reasons.

Good morning, Anya. My reasons are a cross. Yes, I will proudly say that patriotism is a part of it, but at least or as much is simply the fact one of the greatest mass murderers in the last decade was killed. I would feel similar if he'd killed 3000 non-Americans. The fact he struck home though makes it all the stronger.

I don't deny my patriotism, and am proud of it. The difference is between a knee jerk "my country right or wrong" nationalism which I believe has led us to the worse moments in our history, vs. feeling pride in our country when it does something indeed celebration worthy like last night.

[Shilly]

Oh, he's dead. Great. Now we can feel as if we've accomplished something.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Oh, he's dead. Great. Now we can feel as if we've accomplished something.

The bastard is dead. Why to spoil a moment of joy?

[Shilly]

Oh, he's dead. Great. Now we can feel as if we've accomplished something.

The bastard is dead. Why to spoil a moment of joy?

He had it coming of course, but I just don't find any joy in killing.

[Badger]

CNN is reporting they've already burried Bin Laden at sea.

I assume this was done so that his burial ground doesn't become a magnet for nutjobs from all over the Muslim world.

So since he's already been buried at sea, how long until right-wing commentators accuse Obama of fabricating his death for political benefit?

I predict another book from Jerome Corsi.

<sigh> It's already happening. A quick review of web traffic shows a loud minority refusing to believe it (Obama staged it for political purposes, etc, etc). It seems we already have a new political sub-movement---the "deathers".

Even more widespread is the angry retort in the middle of anti-Obama screeds of "Obama didn't get Osama, the U.S. military did". Sadly, expect this denunnciation of giving the Commander-in-Chief an ounce of credit for a military mission he personally authorized after a series of meetings on the subject to be the line du jour of professional Obama haters. Watch how long before this becomes the de facto official response of the right. Professional haters like Rush and Hannity will combine it with an explicit "so don't give President Obama credit here" kiss-off, while Congressional and party leaders will simply pointedly leave mention of Obama out of most celebratory statements. W's response congratulating the President and the military will likely be among the exceptions to the rule.

I'm not trying to be political; I'm just sad how political this has already become in this divided country.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Oh, he's dead. Great. Now we can feel as if we've accomplished something.

The bastard is dead. Why to spoil a moment of joy?

He had it coming of course, but I just don't find any joy in killing.

This is one of the rare cases joy is well-justified.

[Shilly]

Oh, he's dead. Great. Now we can feel as if we've accomplished something.

The bastard is dead. Why to spoil a moment of joy?

He had it coming of course, but I just don't find any joy in killing.

This is one of the rare cases joy is well-justified.

And you are entitled to your opinion. I am just sharing my own feelings.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Good riddance.......can we pull our troops out of the region now?   Please?  2 billion a week in Afghanistan not to mention soldier's lives isn't worth it.

[Countess Anya of the North Parish]

I hate it. He is just horrible. He being obama.

How so?

Well I really hate it when people use patriotism as a licence to kill. Our people? you kidding me? The only thing that makes us American is us just saying we are. nothing else. I find is dishonest. It makes me want to vomit when he pulls a card like that. Be honest and keep the facts clean. And stop brainwashing us into thinking we are one when we dont even know half of the people living in America. yuck!

What's the point of having a country then?  Or the point of unity?  Or of patriotism all in of itself?

there is a point. But it is merely to make social connections. But it should never be used to end someones life and to make to seem that is ok. That makes me mad. A life is a life, and to make us think that because we are 'Americans' we have to right to kill someone despite what they have done, and are 'defending our people' is crap. There is no need to lie. If you are going to kill someone it should be because he has killed many people. Not because he killed Americans. Had they not been Americans obama would not give a sh**t.

And which one do you think matters more to the Americans?  That he killed Americans or that he killed people?  As you said, we do not know half the country itself, but I think it is safe to say that more than half care about the death of Americans than the death of people as a whole.

I disagree. I care far more when patriotism is out of the question. Honestly, i care more about people dying period. Not Americans. And it is rather low to party over someone dying! no matter what it is just rude. If justice is served already there is not need to dance about in the streets. Partying makes the theory of justice just dissolve away. There is no justice. Man i despise people right now.

I can appreciate where your coming from. I don't like to see people jubiliant over anyone's death, but really it is understandable, when you consider how he did set out to kill Americans, so Osama made himself the enemy of all Americans.  He has been the focus of people's hurt over the attacks on 9/11 and fears of another attack, so this feels like a relief, though I don't know how much it will make people safer. I do hope no innocent people died in the attack, but sadly it's likely someone did.

Well you see take out Americans and then I will take this as a matter for humanity. But as of the fact that you yourself are using americans as a group, as a whole, I shall not. And if you think that him dying will help us you are wrong! He has a man in charge incase anything happens to him. And this partying will only fuel that fire as well, thereby subjecting humans to more casualties when they attack again.  But no one thinks about that. No one sees how much more harm this partying is doing. And attacks will increase. They will probably go for DC now. And will most likely succeed.
And to be the enemy of all americans? rly? That is effed up. everyone around the world should be upset that this is happening period. Even people in china and India. But i presume that these attacks increased with us merely occupying them.

Badger:
Celebration my ass. I dont care if justice was served. When someone dies you simply don't party. Do you not know that this will add fuel to the fire? We are no where near done. Yes he should die, I agree with that seniment, but my reason differs from most people. If your reason is nationalistic I would disagree. If it is purely on the fact that he has killed someone then yes, we agree. But it is important to notice the difference between the two different reasons.

Good morning, Anya. My reasons are a cross. Yes, I will proudly say that patriotism is a part of it, but at least or as much is simply the fact one of the greatest mass murderers in the last decade was killed. I would feel similar if he'd killed 3000 non-Americans. The fact he struck home though makes it all the stronger.

I don't deny my patriotism, and am proud of it. The difference is between a knee jerk "my country right or wrong" nationalism which I believe has led us to the worse moments in our history, vs. feeling pride in our country when it does something indeed celebration worthy like last night.

The fact that he struck your 'home' should not make it stronger.  Why should it? does terror and pain for others only go to a certain extent basided on distance? Do families suffer less based on how far they are off american land? To celebrate a death is just wrong. Yes, he deserved his ending. But no, you should not party in the streets like morons because Our country got him. Our country didn't get him. Certain people in the military got him, not out country. They just happen to have a liscense to kill with the flag on behind them.  To be happy one guy has paid for his crime is one thing. it binge drink to it like everything is good now is just rude. I know what you are saying I do. I get it I simply don't agree. Empathy for everyone should be the same for everyone around the world, not just at home. Space and time compression makes it far easier to do that. Yet, most people only care when it is here. I must say, I am very happy he is dead, despite him being quite handsome. But I am happy for a different reason. It has nothing to do with america. It has to do with people. A little change like that.  But since I can merely state myself over and over again for a little while before I grow tired, i suggest we just agree to disagree. Besides, I will be the only one in the class who isnt nationalistic today will will prnbably punch a guy who is a prick. So i have to go get ready for being suspended. Have a good day.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McHyLKw5mHc

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McHyLKw5mHc

You're going to get punched for being a prick, Kal.......careful.

[Badger]

I hate it. He is just horrible. He being obama.

How so?

Well I really hate it when people use patriotism as a licence to kill. Our people? you kidding me? The only thing that makes us American is us just saying we are. nothing else. I find is dishonest. It makes me want to vomit when he pulls a card like that. Be honest and keep the facts clean. And stop brainwashing us into thinking we are one when we dont even know half of the people living in America. yuck!

What's the point of having a country then?  Or the point of unity?  Or of patriotism all in of itself?

there is a point. But it is merely to make social connections. But it should never be used to end someones life and to make to seem that is ok. That makes me mad. A life is a life, and to make us think that because we are 'Americans' we have to right to kill someone despite what they have done, and are 'defending our people' is crap. There is no need to lie. If you are going to kill someone it should be because he has killed many people. Not because he killed Americans. Had they not been Americans obama would not give a sh**t.

And which one do you think matters more to the Americans?  That he killed Americans or that he killed people?  As you said, we do not know half the country itself, but I think it is safe to say that more than half care about the death of Americans than the death of people as a whole.

I disagree. I care far more when patriotism is out of the question. Honestly, i care more about people dying period. Not Americans. And it is rather low to party over someone dying! no matter what it is just rude. If justice is served already there is not need to dance about in the streets. Partying makes the theory of justice just dissolve away. There is no justice. Man i despise people right now.

I can appreciate where your coming from. I don't like to see people jubiliant over anyone's death, but really it is understandable, when you consider how he did set out to kill Americans, so Osama made himself the enemy of all Americans.  He has been the focus of people's hurt over the attacks on 9/11 and fears of another attack, so this feels like a relief, though I don't know how much it will make people safer. I do hope no innocent people died in the attack, but sadly it's likely someone did.

Well you see take out Americans and then I will take this as a matter for humanity. But as of the fact that you yourself are using americans as a group, as a whole, I shall not. And if you think that him dying will help us you are wrong! He has a man in charge incase anything happens to him. And this partying will only fuel that fire as well, thereby subjecting humans to more casualties when they attack again.  But no one thinks about that. No one sees how much more harm this partying is doing. And attacks will increase. They will probably go for DC now. And will most likely succeed.
And to be the enemy of all americans? rly? That is effed up. everyone around the world should be upset that this is happening period. Even people in china and India. But i presume that these attacks increased with us merely occupying them.

Badger:
Celebration my ass. I dont care if justice was served. When someone dies you simply don't party. Do you not know that this will add fuel to the fire? We are no where near done. Yes he should die, I agree with that seniment, but my reason differs from most people. If your reason is nationalistic I would disagree. If it is purely on the fact that he has killed someone then yes, we agree. But it is important to notice the difference between the two different reasons.

Good morning, Anya. My reasons are a cross. Yes, I will proudly say that patriotism is a part of it, but at least or as much is simply the fact one of the greatest mass murderers in the last decade was killed. I would feel similar if he'd killed 3000 non-Americans. The fact he struck home though makes it all the stronger.

I don't deny my patriotism, and am proud of it. The difference is between a knee jerk "my country right or wrong" nationalism which I believe has led us to the worse moments in our history, vs. feeling pride in our country when it does something indeed celebration worthy like last night.

The fact that he struck your 'home' should not make it stronger.  Why should it? does terror and pain for others only go to a certain extent basided on distance? Do families suffer less based on how far they are off american land? To celebrate a death is just wrong. Yes, he deserved his ending. But no, you should not party in the streets like morons because Our country got him. Our country didn't get him. Certain people in the military got him, not out country. They just happen to have a liscense to kill with the flag on behind them.  To be happy one guy has paid for his crime is one thing. it binge drink to it like everything is good now is just rude. I know what you are saying I do. I get it I simply don't agree. Empathy for everyone should be the same for everyone around the world, not just at home. Space and time compression makes it far easier to do that. Yet, most people only care when it is here. I must say, I am very happy he is dead, despite him being quite handsome. But I am happy for a different reason. It has nothing to do with america. It has to do with people. A little change like that.  But since I can merely state myself over and over again for a little while before I grow tired, i suggest we just agree to disagree. Besides, I will be the only one in the class who isnt nationalistic today will will prnbably punch a guy who is a prick. So i have to go get ready for being suspended. Have a good day.

Anya: Of course it makes it stronger and naturally so. There are many, many people who suffered far, FAR worse than me on that day by far. My memories of that day hit home nonetheless. I have a sister who worked in the Financial District. She was fine, but her stories of watching the Towers collapse from her window, and trying to calm a hysterical co-worker sobbing under her desk because her fiance worked at WTC--but survived, thank God--are harrowing. She lost her faith in God that day from the death she watched, and not sure if she ever recovered it. I had a long term girlfriend who worked for the government in Alexandria. I'd confused it with Arlington at the time, but that didn't make it any less harrowing a morning till we touched base. I have a father who at the time flew on USAir all the time out of Pittsburgh, and I didn't know for sometime where the plane in Shanksville, PA had flown out of---only that it was not too far out of Pgh International. Then there's the WTC: Beautiful---I'll never forget their view, or their majesty.

So yes, I didn't suffer directly the way many did, but it hurt---badly---and not just because I'm an American. Most of us wept over our grandparent's death, but do we weep equally for every grandparent we read about dying in the obits? Of course not, because the loss is more personal. The same applies here, even if I don't (fortunately) know anyone directly killed or injured in 9/11.

Try at least not to ruin your own day by getting suspended, eh? If you are so against violence being justified by nationalism, punching someone in the name of anti-nationalism hardly proves a point.

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

I would have taken his body and hug it at the South Pole on top of a 20 foot pole with a camera and spot light continuously on it.  hopefully it would have become a shrine attracting millions of Islamists.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

I weren't, naturally, personally touched with 9/11 attacks. I didn't know anyone, who was. But, no matter how idiotic it may sound, I was a 12-year old stupid kid at the time, and I got a scared the s**t out of me by what happened. So I have no empathy for trash like Bin Laden. Good riddance, DIAF etc. etc.

[King]

Even in this time of extreme patriotism, it's good to see jmfcst is still at the top of his game when it comes to making inappriopriate remarks about Islam.

[Eraserhead]

They should have used the body for experimentation. Perhaps they could have created a Frankenbinladen.

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

Even in this time of extreme patriotism, it's good to see jmfcst is still at the top of his game when it comes to making inappropriate remarks about Islam.

wanting the followers of Osama to drop dead, whether by bullet or by frost, is an inappropriate remark about Islam?!

[sentinel]

They should have used the body for experimentation. Perhaps they could have created a Frankenbinladen.

Sounds like you need to start writing a manuscript, eh?

I sware there will be a Call of Duty map that simulates what the Navy SEALS did last night. Might be a good map.

I wrote on the 2012 board that I think the long term reprocussions for Obama are more significant than any bump in approval. People's confidence in him as a Commander-in-Chief, a decisive and strong leader should rise quite a bit. Any allegations that basically call him unpatriotic won't stick and those people will look radical and/or insane...

It is a bit odd celebrating the death of someone --but the fight certainly is not over. Even though al-Qaeda is severely weakened they won't stop. Efforts to repel threats should be taken more seriously than ever due to fear of retaliation.

Former President Musharaff of Pakistan called the US's actions a violation of Pakistan sovereignity...sucks for him I guess. If someone told me that Pakistan was harboring Osama the entire time I wouldn't be surprised.

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

Former President Musharaff of Pakistan called the US's actions a violation of Pakistan sovereignity...sucks for him I guess. If someone told me that Pakistan was harboring Osama the entire time I wouldn't be surprised.

it's quite obvious many key members of the Paki government and military were aiding Osama.  Not all, but enough for it be hopelessly compromised.  If I were POTUS, I would at least have plan to take out Paki nukes if necessary - though it made be too late - they may already be dispersed to unknown locations, both inside and outside Paki territory.

[Meeker]