PPP: Obama leads them all in NC

[Cincinnatus]

I believe this poll. North Carolina is changing fast.

Yes, it sad.  Liberals are fleeing the northeast after their policies have made those states uninhabitable and they're invading the conservative south and taking their moronic politics with them.  Just stay in New York!

Uninhabitable? Take a good look at educational achievement, poverty rates, and crime.

More significantly, few people like to shovel snow.

I live in New York and I assure you, people and businesses have left because of our taxes.  Every small business owner I knows understand how hard it is to stay around here.  I also know several people who have left because they can't do business here.  My state just has its head so far up its own ass it's ridiculous.

[Brittain33]

People leave because of cost of living. More specifically, if they want a nice suburban house on a plot of land and a not-too-difficult commute by car, and they like warm weather, they can get that cheaply by moving South. Taxes in NC and Georgia are pretty high, in fact, and salaries are lower.

[Napoleon]

PPP is the reverse of Rasmussen so take it with a grain of salt. Having home stretch polls close to the final result doesn't make them credible this far out.

[Napoleon]

Hilarious. In a close election, this state should be safe R.

States change.

[pbrower2a]

Hilarious. In a close election, this state should be safe R.

Until 1988, Vermont was extremely-safe R, the sort of state that went D only in blowouts.

[Bull Moose Base]

The only politician who has accurately pinpointed the policies that have driven the flight from NY is Jimmy McMillan.

[Sbane]

People who think it's high taxes which cause people to flee high cost state, they are ideologically blinded, naive fools. High taxes are a part of the reason but it's rent which really impacts people. Only rich people have the luxury to worry about tax rates.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

People who think it's high taxes which cause people to flee high cost states, then they are ideologically blinded, naive fools. High taxes are a part of the reason but it's rent which really impacts people. Only rich people have the luxury to worry about tax rates.

He agrees

[krazen1211]

People who think it's high taxes which cause people to flee high cost state, they are ideologically blinded, naive fools. High taxes are a part of the reason but it's rent which really impacts people. Only rich people have the luxury to worry about tax rates.

Rent is partially fueled by property taxes.


You don't have to take my word for it. Go to Bergen and Middlesex Counties, NJ, which got shellacked for a decade.

[memphis]

People who think it's high taxes which cause people to flee high cost state, they are ideologically blinded, naive fools. High taxes are a part of the reason but it's rent which really impacts people. Only rich people have the luxury to worry about tax rates.

Rent is partially fueled by property taxes.

It's a neglible impact. With high taxes, some investors are less likely to want to buy rental properties so fewer are built, which can drive prices up slightly. However, there's no cabal of landlords arbitrarily setting prices as a direct function of tax rates. Prices are a function of how many units there are versus how many people want to live in a given area. Landlords can either charge the going rate for the properties they have or the units will sit vacant. Like many underpoulated cities, we have very high property taxes here in Memphis along with some of the cheapest rents in the nation.

[King]

People who think it's high taxes which cause people to flee high cost state, they are ideologically blinded, naive fools. High taxes are a part of the reason but it's rent which really impacts people. Only rich people have the luxury to worry about tax rates.

Rent is partially fueled by property taxes.

Cite?

Perhaps large apartment complexes owned by property management companies factor property tax into rent increases, but most normal people aren't that calculated in their decisions.  I've had landlords raise the rent with every lease renewal proposal arbitrarily, regardless of whether their cost of ownership increased or decreased.  Simply asking for a reason gave me my old rate back.  It's just too tempting to try and take an extra $10 a month.

As memphis said, it's also basic "going rate" supply and demand.  Property owners are no more or less sheep than the renters.

[krazen1211]

Cite?

Perhaps large apartment complexes owned by property management companies factor property tax into rent increases, but most normal people aren't that calculated in their decisions.  I've had landlords raise the rent with every lease renewal proposal arbitrarily, regardless of whether their cost of ownership increased or decreased.  Simply asking for a reason gave me my old rate back.  It's just too tempting to try and take an extra $10 a month.

As memphis said, it's also basic "going rate" supply and demand.  Property owners are no more or less sheep than the renters.

Well, New Mexico isn't as tax happy as New Jersey is. In our case, we had property taxes going up by high single digits annually, so any decision to increase rent is not arbitrary at all.

http://www.state.nj.us/treasury/taxation/njit35.shtml

By law, the state of New Jersey considers 18% of your rent to be your property tax.

By law, also, the state of New Jersey is supposed to designate all income tax receipts into a property tax relief fund. They don't really do that, though.

[Sbane]

People who think it's high taxes which cause people to flee high cost state, they are ideologically blinded, naive fools. High taxes are a part of the reason but it's rent which really impacts people. Only rich people have the luxury to worry about tax rates.

Rent is partially fueled by property taxes.

Haha, not where I live!!

If you are renting out a property in California that you have owned since the 1980s, you have basically hit the jackpot.