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« Reply #125 on: May 27, 2011, 07:19:28 PM »

Well, we need to work on the bylaws, as well as hold leadership elections, especially.

True, although I doubt anyone plans on challenging Yankee. Wink
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« Reply #126 on: May 27, 2011, 07:28:59 PM »

Well, we need to work on the bylaws, as well as hold leadership elections, especially.

True, although I doubt anyone plans on challenging Yankee. Wink
There are other positions as well, and new positions could possibly be created.
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« Reply #127 on: May 27, 2011, 07:36:45 PM »

Well, we need to work on the bylaws, as well as hold leadership elections, especially.

True, although I doubt anyone plans on challenging Yankee. Wink
There are other positions as well, and new positions could possibly be created.

Regional chairmen and Vice Chairman, I suppose. I sure hope I'm not booted out. Tongue
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« Reply #128 on: May 27, 2011, 07:37:28 PM »

Well, we need to work on the bylaws, as well as hold leadership elections, especially.

True, although I doubt anyone plans on challenging Yankee. Wink
There are other positions as well, and new positions could possibly be created.

Regional chairmen and Vice Chairman, I suppose. I sure hope I'm not booted out. Tongue

Down with Duke.. Tongue
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« Reply #129 on: May 27, 2011, 07:41:32 PM »

Well, we need to work on the bylaws, as well as hold leadership elections, especially.

True, although I doubt anyone plans on challenging Yankee. Wink
There are other positions as well, and new positions could possibly be created.

Regional chairmen and Vice Chairman, I suppose. I sure hope I'm not booted out. Tongue

Down with Duke.. Tongue

Down with the last of the founders.. Sad
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« Reply #130 on: May 27, 2011, 07:41:42 PM »

He is right, time is getting short. This has languished for too long. I guess we agreed that for the sake of time at the convention that leadership elections should occur afterwards.

I think Approval voting seemed to be a consensus as to the method there.


As for the convention, I think we should do what we used to do with them. Have one of the leadership like the Vice Chairman or Secretary open it, then hold an election for a presiding officer. I think such can be done quickly enough. And if time doesn't permit it on a case by case basis we can have a fall back option that the same leadership person can just preside throughout that convention if it is started late or whatever occured that delayed it. Thoughts? Such a process would be good for activity, as well.
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« Reply #131 on: May 27, 2011, 07:59:16 PM »

Sorry for the accidentall lockage, with my slow connection, you can be clicking post and then rest of the page loads and the cursor is at the bottom of the page. Grin
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« Reply #132 on: May 27, 2011, 09:20:50 PM »

This is what I have so far.

Old bylaws are on Page 6 I think in a post by PiT.
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I am thinking we should shift most of the focus of GOTV to the Regional Chairman and leave the Vice Chairman to fill in the gaps and provide assistance to the Regional Chairman at their discretion. The VC will still have plenty to do. Currently their is no language in the old bylaws giving the VC those powers and thus his authority over it is at the discretion and good mood of the Party Chairman. And here I thought I was ursurping Duke's authority by doing it myself. Wink

I can easily delegate the authority to the VC on the strict basis as described above giving the Regional Chairs the primary responsbility, and if necessary create another arrangement if necessary, with the language I have written in the linked post. We don't want to make the situation so inflexible that nothing can be done to deal with a contingency that might arise.
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« Reply #133 on: May 27, 2011, 09:24:46 PM »

PiT's work on the Endorsement Section


Unlike, Goldfinger, I do expect you guys to talk. Tongue


Thoughts, comments, concerns!
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« Reply #134 on: May 27, 2011, 09:28:29 PM »

     The way we used to do it, the Vice-Chair contacted the Regional Chairmen with a list of the party members in their region & told them to PM all of those members. Given the number of people in the party, it would be a very good idea to go back to doing that.
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« Reply #135 on: May 27, 2011, 09:30:35 PM »

Stop trying to make my job so complicated! Wink

I'm like a bird, I only fly away. I'm a free spirit, you know.. Tongue
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« Reply #136 on: May 27, 2011, 09:47:34 PM »

     The way we used to do it, the Vice-Chair contacted the Regional Chairmen with a list of the party members in their region & told them to PM all of those members. Given the number of people in the party, it would be a very good idea to go back to doing that.

It definately is too large to be done by one person. The best situation would be the one that is the most flexible and most able to utilize available resources efficiently. My preposal is very similar to what you have described, just less specific as to what "support" shall be provided, and how often.
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« Reply #137 on: May 27, 2011, 09:49:07 PM »

Stop trying to make my job so complicated! Wink

I'm like a bird, I only fly away. I'm a free spirit, you know.. Tongue

This would make it easier, though. Tongue You can focus your energies where they are needed most, rather then have to spread it around. Wink
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« Reply #138 on: May 28, 2011, 04:46:10 PM »

Damn, you people are a tough crowd.


How about I offer a free all night pass at the Crazy Horse Bar and Strip Club in Adelaide, Australia. Wink Tongue
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« Reply #139 on: May 28, 2011, 04:50:48 PM »

I laughed. Tongue
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« Reply #140 on: May 28, 2011, 04:53:23 PM »

He is right, time is getting short. This has languished for too long. I guess we agreed that for the sake of time at the convention that leadership elections should occur afterwards.

I think Approval voting seemed to be a consensus as to the method there.
Perhaps a regular voting method with nominating would be best, so anyone who would be interested in party leadership would have a fair chance of doing so.
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« Reply #141 on: May 28, 2011, 05:14:21 PM »

I know I'm new here of course Tongue, but when it comes to dealing with party business, I've always favored straight-up votes on these things. I've never been a fan of approval voting, personally.
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« Reply #142 on: May 28, 2011, 05:15:35 PM »

I understand the concern about RPP members having a say in who their leadership is and being able to take part and such. But we also must be concerned of the usual way in which most large parties falter. Usually two people find they can't stand each other and they end up in diffferent parties. And right at the center of this is usually a contested leadership race, often for a post like Whip or Secretary. I am sure many remember this occuring some months ago in the Populares and the JCP having some altercations every once in while during leadership elections. As such, I am beginning to think that maybe we should go back to using Approval voting.  It would focus the content more on merits or lack their of on the part of an officeholder, rather than on a personal thing or disagreement, which I think would be very detrimental to the party and to unity. In my time as chairman, I have found that the most annoying thing out their is navigating the tangled web of this guy hates so and so, but likes this guy, that guy and the other guy. I really don't want to see that play out in a leadership race.

But of course, if most disagrees we shall choose a different method.
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« Reply #143 on: May 28, 2011, 05:17:10 PM »

I know I'm new here of course Tongue, but when it comes to dealing with party business, I've always favored straight-up votes on these things. I've never been a fan of approval voting, personally.
Well said. While someone may approve of a job someone is doing, that doesn't necessarily mean they think they're the best possible person out there for it. And I think it's important to this party's success that we have the best of the best in leadership.
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« Reply #144 on: May 28, 2011, 06:54:31 PM »

Well if no one can get down to Australia on such notice, I guess I could get arrangements made with an establishment in New Orleans. Evil
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« Reply #145 on: May 28, 2011, 07:18:35 PM »

Well if no one can get down to Australia on such notice, I guess I could get arrangements made with an establishment in New Orleans. Evil

     My house or Brandon's? Tongue
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« Reply #146 on: May 28, 2011, 07:53:14 PM »

Well if no one can get down to Australia on such notice, I guess I could get arrangements made with an establishment in New Orleans. Evil

     My house or Brandon's? Tongue

Whichever is more likely to have a bar and a strip club? Tongue
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« Reply #147 on: May 28, 2011, 07:59:35 PM »

Well if no one can get down to Australia on such notice, I guess I could get arrangements made with an establishment in New Orleans. Evil

     My house or Brandon's? Tongue

Whichever is more likely to have a bar and a strip club? Tongue

     Don't look at me then. Tongue
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« Reply #148 on: May 28, 2011, 08:14:35 PM »

Well if no one can get down to Australia on such notice, I guess I could get arrangements made with an establishment in New Orleans. Evil

     My house or Brandon's? Tongue

Whichever is more likely to have a bar and a strip club? Tongue

     Don't look at me then. Tongue

I am sure there are plenty of options in New Orleans. Wink
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« Reply #149 on: May 31, 2011, 05:18:07 PM »

I guess we could hold a vote on the issue of leadership elections, but I'd rather not waste the time (This is the last day of May), if some arrangement can be made. I have no problem with direct head to head competitions provided that such races don't become as or more intense than the direct head to head races against the JCP. Tongue Any ideas how such can be encouraged?
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