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Niemeyerite
JulioMadrid
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,803
Spain


Political Matrix
E: -8.65, S: -9.04

« on: April 02, 2011, 12:34:09 PM »

- People's Party (Spain) (should be included in nazi's list). I'm glad that sh**t will be eliminated in the 1st round.
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Niemeyerite
JulioMadrid
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,803
Spain


Political Matrix
E: -8.65, S: -9.04

« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2011, 07:14:40 PM »


And, Julio, please don't use such insults, because you are just feeding those who you attack on the other side.
And, what is more, all the far-right parties aren't "nazis", far from it: this would be a HUGE mistake to think all these "post-modern" far-rightists in Netherlands or Finland are "nazis" or even fascists.

Honestly, I hate some leftist parties in France (NPA, as some of you know it, plus some socialists like Hamon, Aubry or all the former so-called Trotskyites), but I won't begin to use insults, or this survivor will never end in a good way.

the problem is that other conservative political parties in europe are at least democratic. PP doesn't have primaries and a majority of their leaders are still franco supporters (see manuel fraga, founder of the party and minister of franco). others go to far-right "debates" in xenophobic/homophobic/ultranationalist TV channels like "intereconomia" and insult everyone who doesn't think like hi . others, like jaime mayor-oreja, say the government helps ETA... you should come here.. why do you think it's that difficult for PP to win a general election here?? when people feel they're going to him, people vote, and always against them.
PP is full of people who were members of "la falange". please, search in google what they stand for and you'll realize they aren't a common conservative party...
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Niemeyerite
JulioMadrid
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,803
Spain


Political Matrix
E: -8.65, S: -9.04

« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2011, 01:52:41 PM »

4 PdL

inmunity for Moderate party (sweeden)
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Niemeyerite
JulioMadrid
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,803
Spain


Political Matrix
E: -8.65, S: -9.04

« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2011, 10:25:24 AM »

eliminate:
4 - New Democracy (Greece)
2 - Independence Party (Iceland)
1 - Conservative Party (UK)
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Niemeyerite
JulioMadrid
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,803
Spain


Political Matrix
E: -8.65, S: -9.04

« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2011, 10:29:12 AM »


And, Julio, please don't use such insults, because you are just feeding those who you attack on the other side.
And, what is more, all the far-right parties aren't "nazis", far from it: this would be a HUGE mistake to think all these "post-modern" far-rightists in Netherlands or Finland are "nazis" or even fascists.

Honestly, I hate some leftist parties in France (NPA, as some of you know it, plus some socialists like Hamon, Aubry or all the former so-called Trotskyites), but I won't begin to use insults, or this survivor will never end in a good way.

the problem is that other conservative political parties in europe are at least democratic. PP doesn't have primaries and a majority of their leaders are still franco supporters (see manuel fraga, founder of the party and minister of franco). others go to far-right "debates" in xenophobic/homophobic/ultranationalist TV channels like "intereconomia" and insult everyone who doesn't think like hi . others, like jaime mayor-oreja, say the government helps ETA... you should come here.. why do you think it's that difficult for PP to win a general election here?? when people feel they're going to him, people vote, and always against them.
PP is full of people who were members of "la falange". please, search in google what they stand for and you'll realize they aren't a common conservative party...

That was your qualification of the whole far-right group that made me react: all these parties are far from Nazis or even fascists.

As for the PP, I don't know it enough and I don't know the share of former phalangists in it.
Though I guess the biggest "undemocratic" wing in the PP should be traditional franquists, though, i.e. authoritarian (or even dictatorial) conservatives, which is different from fascism (and of course from nazism).

OK, I understand your view, The problem is that here in spain we call "fachas (short word which means fascist) almost everyone who supports PP. Some of them even accept being called fachas (fascists) as we accept being called "rojos" by them. polarization in spain is huge, you should see xD. so, if we call someone who isn't franquist but votes PP (a small minority) "facha", imagine what a franquist PP voter is for us... even more fascist than mussolini haha...
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Niemeyerite
JulioMadrid
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,803
Spain


Political Matrix
E: -8.65, S: -9.04

« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2011, 10:35:33 AM »

5 Fianna Fáil
4 cdH
3 Democratic Rally (Cyprus)
2 Independence Party (Iceland)
1 Det Konservative Folkeparti
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Niemeyerite
JulioMadrid
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,803
Spain


Political Matrix
E: -8.65, S: -9.04

« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2011, 09:58:28 AM »

Eliminate
2 Independence Party (Iceland)
2 Christian Democratic Party (Norway)
2 Nationalist Party (Malta)

keep
2 VVD
1 Hoyre
1 FG

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Niemeyerite
JulioMadrid
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,803
Spain


Political Matrix
E: -8.65, S: -9.04

« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2011, 10:38:48 AM »

3 votes to eliminate Democratic Rally (Cyprus)
3 votes to eliminate Fine Gael

3 votes to keep UK Conservatives
1 vote to keep UMP
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Niemeyerite
JulioMadrid
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,803
Spain


Political Matrix
E: -8.65, S: -9.04

« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2011, 09:59:44 AM »

5 Future and Freedom for Italy
4 Social Democratic Party (Portugal)
3 Christian Democratic People's Party of Switzerland
3 Christian Social People's Party (Luxembourg)
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Niemeyerite
JulioMadrid
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,803
Spain


Political Matrix
E: -8.65, S: -9.04

« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2011, 07:16:38 PM »

5 Future and Freedom
3 OVP
2 PSD

keep: conservative party (UK)
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Niemeyerite
JulioMadrid
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,803
Spain


Political Matrix
E: -8.65, S: -9.04

« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2011, 07:10:05 PM »

6 PSD
5 FLI
2 Venstre
2 Future and Freedom
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Niemeyerite
JulioMadrid
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,803
Spain


Political Matrix
E: -8.65, S: -9.04

« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2011, 08:33:55 AM »

1 Christian Democratic People's Party of Switzerland
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