Western Europe political parties suvrivor (Phase I) - Group 5 COMPLETE

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Il Popolo delle libertà

And, Julio, please don't use such insults, because you are just feeding those who you attack on the other side.
And, what is more, all the far-right parties aren't "nazis", far from it: this would be a HUGE mistake to think all these "post-modern" far-rightists in Netherlands or Finland are "nazis" or even fascists.

Honestly, I hate some leftist parties in France (NPA, as some of you know it, plus some socialists like Hamon, Aubry or all the former so-called Trotskyites), but I won't begin to use insults, or this survivor will never end in a good way.

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4 PdL

immunity for Moderate party (Sweden)

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Il Popolo delle libertà

And, Julio, please don't use such insults, because you are just feeding those who you attack on the other side.
And, what is more, all the far-right parties aren't "nazis", far from it: this would be a HUGE mistake to think all these "post-modern" far-rightists in Netherlands or Finland are "nazis" or even fascists.

Honestly, I hate some leftist parties in France (NPA, as some of you know it, plus some socialists like Hamon, Aubry or all the former so-called Trotskyites), but I won't begin to use insults, or this survivor will never end in a good way.

the problem is that other conservative political parties in europe are at least democratic. PP doesn't have primaries and a majority of their leaders are still franco supporters (see manuel fraga, founder of the party and minister of franco). others go to far-right "debates" in xenophobic/homophobic/ultranationalist TV channels like "intereconomia" and insult everyone who doesn't think like hi . others, like jaime mayor-oreja, say the government helps ETA... you should come here.. why do you think it's that difficult for PP to win a general election here?? when people feel they're going to him, people vote, and always against them.
PP is full of people who were members of "la falange". please, search in google what they stand for and you'll realize they aren't a common conservative party...

That was your qualification of the whole far-right group that made me react: all these parties are far from Nazis or even fascists.

As for the PP, I don't know it enough and I don't know the share of former phalangists in it.
Though I guess the biggest "undemocratic" wing in the PP should be traditional franquists, though, i.e. authoritarian (or even dictatorial) conservatives, which is different from fascism (and of course from nazism).

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Your map isn't completely updated, Antonio.

Eliminate
4 New Democracy (Greece)
2 Centre démocrate humaniste (Belgium)
1 Independence Party (Iceland)

Keep
2 Conservatives (UK)
1 UMP

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5 CDH (Belgium)
4 Christian Social People's Party (Luxembourg)
3 Democratic Rally (Cyprus)
2 Fine Gael
1 Fianna Fail

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Eliminate
2 Fine Gael
2 Democratic Rally (Cyprus)
2 Independence Party (Iceland)

Keep
1 Nationalist Party (Malta)
1 UMP
1 VVD
1 UK Conservatives

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3 votes to eliminate Democratic Rally (Cyprus)
3 votes to eliminate Fine Gael

3 votes to keep UK Conservatives
1 vote to keep UMP

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5 Democratic and Social Centre – People's Party (Portugal)
4 Christian Social People's Party (Luxembourg)
3 Fine Gael (Ireland)
3 Future and Freedom for Italy

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Eliminate
5 Fine Gael
3 Future and Freedom for Italy
2 PSD (Portugal)

Keep
UK Conservatives

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6 Fine Gael
5 FLI
2 PSD
2 ÖVP

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2 Christian Democratic People's Party of Switzerland

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Oh God, someone must save the Conservatives

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Oh God, someone must save the Conservatives

Don't worry, Antonio will eliminate Fine Gael and the Liberal party (over the FPO) in group 6. The SDP in group 2 and the LibDems in group 4 will also survive. The PSOE, the Labour party (UK) and the socialist party of France will be even tougher nuts to crack.
So it's another crap round for me and the future looks worse, so don't start complaining

Not so sure he'll be able to save all of them. But you're right, I complain while it's only a threat, not a fact.
In fact, it's SYRIZA which bothers me, and it translates in whining on other parties...

As for PSOE and even French socialists, I won't support them for long, but next week, I won't vote vote, so...

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Yay, apart from Malta, it's OK here.