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« on: March 20, 2011, 04:46:36 PM »

then how come that isn't reflected at a lot of democratic events? Most of the people that head the county and state democratic parties are white and are stereotypical Henry Waxman democrats. At Stewart or Colbert rallies, I'm guessing the crowd was probably 98% white. On the democratic websites such as Democratic Underground or DailyKos, I wouldn't be surprised if whites made up 80+% of the people on it.

Now I'm not a Jesse Jackson type person who will whine if there isn't enough minorities. But minorities play a huge role in the success of the democratic party. Democrats can't win elections without them, so how come it isn't reflected in the democratic events?
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« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2011, 04:59:49 PM »

There are separate Dem events for Blacks and for Whites. Blacks may still attend the White Democratic events, but only as performers (speakers), and they do need to enter the building through the servants' entrance.
In short, nothing has changed.



Okay, not quite. But you get the idea. The internet, especially, is remarkably segregated.
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« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2011, 12:33:05 PM »

There are plenty of Dem places with blacks. Stewart represents only one wing of the party.
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« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2011, 02:07:04 PM »

A lot of the elistist academics and latte liberals don't want to associate with the inner city minorities even if they vote for the same party.
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« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2011, 02:27:40 PM »

A lot of the elitist academics and latte liberals don't want to associate with the inner city minorities even if they vote for the same party.

isn't that a problem? The democratic party needs to be united in all fronts to take back the u.s. house in 2012. Its a shame if the people you refer to as "latte liberals" view inner-city minorities as easy votes.
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« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2011, 04:18:31 PM »

The D's are more an assortment of people defined against the GOP coalition than anything.
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« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2011, 04:54:06 PM »

A lot of the elistist academics and latte liberals don't want to associate with the inner city minorities even if they vote for the same party.

This does haves some truth to it.

The latte liberals supply more dollars than votes. The minorities supply more votes than dollars.

Both see the GOP as a threat to them.
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« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2011, 09:28:50 AM »

A lot of the elitist academics and latte liberals don't want to associate with the inner city minorities even if they vote for the same party.

isn't that a problem? The democratic party needs to be united in all fronts to take back the u.s. house in 2012. Its a shame if the people you refer to as "latte liberals" view inner-city minorities as easy votes.


Why is it a problem? The strategy has worked for decades.

It works quite well. You have places like Ashbury Park, NJ, which vote straight ticket Democrat. The government funnels massive disproportionate state funding to Ashbury Park for 'education', which of course doesn't go to education, as the kids there aren't actually getting educated. Union profiteers skim off this massive funding and reroute it back to the Democratic Party.

Thus, Ashbury Park becomes both a source of money and votes. But does Frank Pallone actually set foot into Ashbury Park itself? Of course not, if he can avoid it. Every decade, Democrats trot out minorities from Ashbury Park as evidence of 'inequality', but of course that inequality suits them well.
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« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2011, 05:00:39 PM »

The D's are more an assortment of people defined against the GOP coalition than anything.

This is somewhat less true than it once was, though. With the death of blue dog democrats and dixiecrats, we are becoming a more united party. Still basically half the party is minorities and  and the other half urbanites and some middle to upper class whites in the northeast and west coast. However, we are more united than ever as a party, while the GOP's tea insurgency is making them less united. Not saying we are a more united part than the GOP, but we are more unified as a party than ever, IMHO.
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« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2011, 09:42:24 PM »

The D's are more an assortment of people defined against the GOP coalition than anything.

This is somewhat less true than it once was, though. With the death of blue dog democrats and dixiecrats, we are becoming a more united party. Still basically half the party is minorities and  and the other half urbanites and some middle to upper class whites in the northeast and west coast. However, we are more united than ever as a party, while the GOP's tea insurgency is making them less united. Not saying we are a more united part than the GOP, but we are more unified as a party than ever, IMHO.

Of course.

What I'm getting is that, there's no upfront contradiction to being a church-going small businessmen.

While the D's on the other hand have an alliance with homosexuals and blacks/hispanics/union whites.
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« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2011, 10:43:16 PM »

What on earth is an 'urbanite'? Plenty of minorities live in the cities anyway. Needless to say.
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« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2011, 08:32:50 AM »

Of course.

What I'm getting is that, there's no upfront contradiction to being a church-going small businessmen.

While the D's on the other hand have an alliance with homosexuals and blacks/hispanics/union whites.

I would go further and say there are a lot of suburbaners who think the homosexuals are depraved, don't want to get within 1000 feet of the inner city blacks, and really have nothing to do with the unions one way or another.
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« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2011, 12:31:14 PM »

I would go further and say there are a lot of suburbaners who think the homosexuals are depraved, don't want to get within 1000 feet of the inner city blacks, and really have nothing to do with the unions one way or another.

suburbaners? WTF?
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« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2011, 12:39:48 PM »
« Edited: March 25, 2011, 12:44:17 PM by krazen1211 »


I would go further and say there are a lot of suburbaners who think the homosexuals are depraved, don't want to get within 1000 feet of the inner city blacks, and really have nothing to do with the unions one way or another.

suburbaners? WTF?

'Suburbaners' are people who live in places like Millburn and Plainsboro, NJ. The latter actually has a substantial Asian population, so technically they are minorities, and voted for Obama in large margins, but they also don't want to be associated with the inner city blacks and hispanics in nearby Trenton and elsewhere.

Obama actually stopped by Edison some time back to eat a sandwich; I doubt he would do that in inner city Newark.
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« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2011, 12:46:58 PM »

What on earth is an 'urbanite'? Plenty of minorities live in the cities anyway. Needless to say.

Urbanite, I presume is NY-08. Quite different than NY-16, which is your stereotypical Democratic low income zone.
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« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2011, 01:05:04 PM »

A lot of the elistist academics and latte liberals don't want to associate with the inner city minorities even if they vote for the same party.

This does haves some truth to it.

The latte liberals supply more dollars than votes. The minorities supply more votes than dollars.

Both see the GOP as a threat to them.

Same divide is just as (if not more) true on the other side.

Big business/economic conservatives supply more dollars than votes. Evangelicals/social conservatives supply more votes than dollars. Both see the Democratic Party as a threat.
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