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« on: March 17, 2011, 08:55:53 PM »

In your view, who should be considered as the greatest monarch in the history of England and or Great Britain?

Please discuss.
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« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2011, 10:03:03 PM »

Alfred the Great, hands down. 
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« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2011, 11:25:55 PM »

Llywelyn the Great.
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« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2011, 04:52:04 AM »

Personally, I'd say Elizabeth I.
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« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2011, 07:31:39 AM »


Yeah, I think Elizabeth I deserves it. Henry VII was also good AFAIK.
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« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2011, 07:34:16 AM »

     King George III, for helping fuel the cause of American independence. Grin
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« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2011, 08:21:23 AM »


I'd go with Elizabeth I.  Charles II would be surprisingly  high on my list.
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« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2011, 08:32:50 AM »


Definitely.
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« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2011, 08:44:10 AM »

     King George III, for helping fuel the cause of American independence. Grin

That was Parliament's fault more than George III...

My list

1. Elizabeth I
2. Henry II
3. Henry VIII (he had some serious issues, but the effect on the country of his reign is enormous)
4. Alfred
5. Victoria

--- Special mentions
- William IV (under-valued, but was informal, unstuffy and could have shifted the British monarchy radically, also handled the Corn Laws brilliantly)
- Charles II - re-invigorated the Monarchy after the restoration in 1660, as well as advocating for greater religious freedoms
- William III, without him, the reign of one of the worst Kings, James II, would have continued, and provided one of the world's first experiments of 'limited government'
- George V - stable, dependable in difficult times (same goes for George VI)
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« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2011, 09:09:28 AM »

Oliver Cromwell
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« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2011, 09:27:46 AM »


Lol, Cromwell had all of the self-righteousness of Charles I and mixed with puritan kill-joyism
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« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2011, 11:03:37 AM »

Anthony Blair

But Larry is a strong contender.
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« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2011, 03:41:45 PM »

Henry II just for putting up with his wife and kids.
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« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2011, 04:46:58 PM »


Tempted to agree. Feeling like a bad Catholic now.
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« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2011, 04:50:59 PM »

James VII
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« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2011, 09:10:48 PM »


Pretty much every Monarch since Cromwell, apart from James II was infinitely better than Cromwell...

Forget all the "ohhh Monarchy bad etc etc" bs and consider the actual policies and what they did to the country.
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« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2011, 09:45:23 PM »

Forget all the "ohhh Monarchy bad etc etc" bs and consider the actual policies and what they did to the country.

First off it isn't bs and secondly I quite like having Jews here.
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« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2011, 10:20:02 PM »

Though doubtless Elizabeth I has to rank as one of the greatest of English monarchs, I would place Henry V at the top as well.

He achieved remarkable successes in both domestic and foreign policy for the realm and possessed tremendous leadership qualities.
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« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2011, 10:45:18 PM »

Forget all the "ohhh Monarchy bad etc etc" bs and consider the actual policies and what they did to the country.

First off it isn't bs and secondly I quite like having Jews here.

I agree that the views held by some Kings, like Edward I toward the Jews were horrific, but in many cases medieval Kings like Henry II and Richard tried to protect the Jews - but that anti-semitism was driven by the Church primarily.
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« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2011, 12:21:39 AM »

Forget all the "ohhh Monarchy bad etc etc" bs and consider the actual policies and what they did to the country.

First off it isn't bs and secondly I quite like having Jews here.

It is very easy to point to one good thing that someone did. Mussolini, trains etc etc. Setting aside his forays in other parts of the realm, he still has a very questionable track record within England. I don't buy that his usurpation of power was some sort of enlightened scheme. It is late here as well so I cant expound either Smiley tbc. 
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« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2011, 02:59:44 PM »

Henry VIII.
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« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2011, 11:41:36 PM »


Can you explain your reasoning?
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« Reply #22 on: March 19, 2011, 11:48:37 PM »

Edward VIII
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« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2011, 11:56:08 PM »


Can  you explain your reasoning?
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« Reply #24 on: March 19, 2011, 11:59:39 PM »


About the only thing good Cromwell did.
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