Does Hillary have a fighting chance of getting the nomination?
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Question: Do you think Hillary has a fighting chance of getting the Dem. nomination?
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zachman
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« on: November 28, 2004, 09:33:28 PM »

Nope.
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« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2004, 09:35:19 PM »

As soon as Dick Morris said she did, I assumed she didn't.
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« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2004, 09:45:03 PM »

Sadly, I think it is all too good.
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« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2004, 09:45:34 PM »

Sadly, yes.
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« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2004, 09:48:53 PM »

Yes, she does. The Clintons have a lot of influence in their party. Sure the Wes Clark thing didn't work out but this is Hillary we're talking about. A lot more work and money will go into her campaign.
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« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2004, 09:49:52 PM »

She does, but it is an outside chance of it.  She is the darkhorse who can take the race if she ends up the sole liberal in the race and two or more moderates fight for the party moderates.  She could take enough early states that no one has a chance against her. 
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« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2004, 11:08:37 AM »

Yes as things stand now, but come 2008, I expect the word "electability" to be paramount in the minds of primary voters

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« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2004, 01:17:18 PM »

Yes, she has a very good chance.
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« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2004, 03:25:31 PM »

Nope.
None at all.
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« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2004, 05:32:48 PM »

I'd say so, and I'd not mind it if she did.
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« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2004, 05:37:25 PM »

Not only does she have a chance, I still think that she's the favorite.
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« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2004, 06:35:20 PM »

Yea, I think she will get the Nomination if she trys.
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« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2004, 07:25:57 PM »

More than that, if there is one right now, I'd call her the frontrunner. She's the strongest candidate the Democrats have right now. Granted, it is way to early to speculate.
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« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2004, 07:26:26 PM »

More than that, if there is one right now, I'd call her the frontrunner. She's the strongest candidate the Democrats have right now. Granted, it is way to early to speculate.

Strongest? I hope you don't mean most electable.
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« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2004, 07:36:41 PM »

More than that, if there is one right now, I'd call her the frontrunner. She's the strongest candidate the Democrats have right now. Granted, it is way to early to speculate.

Strongest? I hope you don't mean most electable.

Sure there are more Electable people for the General Election, But for the Primaries she is the most Electable candidate, Because she is the most Liberal candidate (within reason).
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« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2004, 08:10:05 PM »

She might be able to win the nomination, but I think she's smart enough to know that she probably wouldn't win the general election, so I doubt that she would run.
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« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2004, 08:33:32 PM »

42% of Dems Say Hillary Strongest Candidate for 2008

Which of the following would be the strongest candidate for the Democrats in 2008...
(Responses from Democrats)
Hillary Clinton   42%
John Kerry   16%
John Edwards   13%
Al Gore   9%
Evan Bayh   4%
Bill Richardson   3%
Mark Warner   1%
 
Sunday November 21, 2004--Forty-two percent (42%) of Democrats say New York Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton would be the party's strongest Presidential candidate in 2008. A Rasmussen Reports survey found that 16% think 2004 nominee John Kerry would be the best bet for Democrats in the next Presidential contest. Thirteen percent (13%) named Kerry's running mate, John Edwards.
Among unaffiliated voters, 27% named Senator Clinton as the Democrats' strongest candidate. Sixteen percent (16%) named Senator Edwards and 10% Senator Kerry.
No other candidate reached double digits among Democrats or unaffiliated voters in the Rasmussen Reports survey. None of the three "Red State" candidates reached 5%. Those potential candidates were Evan Bayh from Indiana, Bill Richardson from New Mexico, and Mark Warner from Virgina.
Senator Clinton is seen most positively by liberal voters. Thirty-nine percent (39%) of liberals believe she is the Democrats' best bet.
The support for Senator Clinton may create a conflict with another perception of Democratic voters--51% of the nation's Democrats say it would be best for their party to nominate a more centrist candidate in 2008.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Election%202008%20Dem%20Candidates.htm

And there's also...

Time/CNN Poll conducted by Harris Interactive. Dec. 17-18, 2002. N=400 registered Democrats and independents who lean Democratic nationwide. MoE ± 4.9.
                 
"Thinking ahead to the 2004 presidential election, if you were asked to vote for a Democratic presidential nominee for president today, which of the following Democrats would you vote for? . . ."
        With Clinton   Without Clinton            
        %   %            
    Hillary Clinton   30   n/a            
    John Kerry   13   16            
    Joseph Lieberman   13   16            
    Dick Gephardt   9   10            
    Tom Daschle   7   9            
    John Edwards   4   8            
    Wesley Clark   3   5            
    Howard Dean   2   2            
    Al Sharpton   2   4            
    Joe Biden   2   3            
    Chris Dodd   1   3            
    Not sure   14   24            
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« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2004, 08:35:13 PM »

Oh, and that link for that lower peice of data is
http://www.pollingreport.com/wh04dem2.htm
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« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2004, 10:26:48 PM »

That is only because of name recognition and the fact that she is one person that the media constantly talks about running.  It really means nothing and I doubt that she will run.  The whole hillary thing is a republican tactic for fund raising.
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« Reply #19 on: November 29, 2004, 10:48:23 PM »

That is only because of name recognition and the fact that she is one person that the media constantly talks about running.  It really means nothing and I doubt that she will run.  The whole hillary thing is a republican tactic for fund raising.

Totally agree.
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« Reply #20 on: November 30, 2004, 03:27:18 AM »

I think it'll be something like Warner/Clark
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« Reply #21 on: December 01, 2004, 09:18:45 AM »

The Democrats need to select a centrist/moderate or face almost certain defeat in 2008. Face facts: America is becoming less liberal. Conservatives outnumber liberals by 2:1

I think the 51% of Democratic voters who believe that they should select a moderate are using their loafs!

In 2004, the liberal Kerry led among self-styled moderates by 54:45, which was insufficient to offset Bush's overwhelming support among conservatives

An identifable centrist would gain a larger share of the moderate vote and a greater share of the independent vote; as well as possibly reaching out to moderate Republicans and moderate conservatives

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« Reply #22 on: December 05, 2004, 01:55:24 PM »

Yes, even though it would be idiotic. As good of a campaigner as she is, the Republicans would organize a masssive turnout effort agiant her. Bayh is their best chance.
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« Reply #23 on: December 05, 2004, 08:37:01 PM »

Today's NY Times as a very flattering article (well no surprise) on Hillary for 2008.  When Hillary was asked if she should run since she is such a divisive figure, she responded that Bush is quite polarizing, and quite successful!

Sure seems like she will be running in 08
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« Reply #24 on: December 05, 2004, 08:41:40 PM »

Today's NY Times as a very flattering article (well no surprise) on Hillary for 2008.  When Hillary was asked if she should run since she is such a divisive figure, she responded that Bush is quite polarizing, and quite successful!

Sure seems like she will be running in 08
I looked at that article and I was surprised that Joe Trippi (the only of the three commentators that I knew) was taking Hillary as a favorite to win the nomination. I thought that Hillary talk was the media's way of catering to what people already know. If Bill Clinton dies, Hillary has a chance, otherwise no.
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