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« Reply #25 on: November 27, 2004, 10:18:19 AM »

Bayh / Warner 2008

However, I'd settle for either Richardson (experience) and Lincoln (southern centrist) as VP

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I don't think America is ready for a woman VP, and I don't think either party will forget about Ferraro for a very long time.

I can't see them being too keen for a woman P either!

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« Reply #26 on: November 27, 2004, 10:23:40 AM »

I think it's funny how few people want Hillary Clinton here, despite the supposed inevitability of her getting the nomination.

What does that say about her overall chances?
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« Reply #27 on: November 27, 2004, 10:31:16 AM »

I think it's funny how few people want Hillary Clinton here, despite the supposed inevitability of her getting the nomination.

What does that say about her overall chances?

I think come 2008, "electability" will determine the Democratic nominee, which should rule Hillary out

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« Reply #28 on: November 27, 2004, 02:09:35 PM »


I think it's funny how few people want Hillary Clinton here, despite the supposed inevitability of her getting the nomination.

What does that say about her overall chances?


It says most about the laziness of the Washington Press Corp IMHO LOL!

My Prediction is that the GOP Primary will have…

Hagel, Pataki, Owens, Allen, Dole, Frist and Santorum running. As well as the usually gadflies like Keyes (Even after Illinois I bet you he runs) and some other nuts.

And the Dem primary will probably have…

Bayh, Edwards (he won’t take my advice), Feingold and some others (such as Napolitano, Bredesen and perhaps Pryor or Kerry as well) as well as gadflies/ crazies like Kucinich, Sharpton and Kaptur.


…but as I was saying the press “narrative” that Clinton is the front runner is just laziness IMHO, it to early and would take too much time to talk about folks like Bayh or Feingold or Warner or… the list goes on, with the Republicans they can’t be so certain to they just throw McCain and Giuliani into the mix, even though McCain may well not run and Rudy would be too liberal for a large chunck of the GOP
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« Reply #29 on: November 27, 2004, 02:16:46 PM »

President Richardson
VP Warner

Of course Bayh would be good if he can deliver the entire midwest of course.
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« Reply #30 on: November 27, 2004, 05:11:07 PM »

I miss the real yellow dogs like Ben. Back when the Democrats ACTUALLY had a chance of swinging my vote.
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« Reply #31 on: November 27, 2004, 06:26:43 PM »


I miss the real yellow dogs like Ben. Back when the Democrats ACTUALLY had a chance of swinging my vote.


It all goes back to JFK's death in 63 IMHO and the mess that was the Johnson and Nixon Administrations... oh well. 
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« Reply #32 on: November 27, 2004, 06:33:09 PM »


I miss the real yellow dogs like Ben. Back when the Democrats ACTUALLY had a chance of swinging my vote.


It all goes back to JFK's death in 63 IMHO and the mess that was the Johnson and Nixon Administrations... oh well. 

I think it goes back to Vietnam and how the Democrats brought the hippies into their party and starting supporting their horribly socialist agendas.
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« Reply #33 on: November 27, 2004, 07:34:55 PM »

Bayh, Richardson...or Hillary
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« Reply #34 on: November 28, 2004, 05:10:45 AM »


I miss the real yellow dogs like Ben. Back when the Democrats ACTUALLY had a chance of swinging my vote.


It all goes back to JFK's death in 63 IMHO and the mess that was the Johnson and Nixon Administrations... oh well. 

I think it goes back to Vietnam and how the Democrats brought the hippies into their party and starting supporting their horribly socialist agendas.

True, loads of counter-culture activists entered the Democratic Party first through the anti-war campaign of Eugene McCarthey and then the campaign of George McGovern (who oddly enough was very pro-life), these new Democratic activists now where powerful enough to challenge traditional democratic positions on defence and cultural issues even as the republicans began to slowly move to the right, helping these new democrats was the fact that the right of the party was still in disarray after the Vietnam war and civil rights with only “Scoop” Jackson really holding any position of authority within the party.
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« Reply #35 on: November 28, 2004, 06:00:23 PM »

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« Reply #36 on: November 28, 2004, 06:29:34 PM »

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« Reply #37 on: November 28, 2004, 06:43:10 PM »

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« Reply #38 on: November 28, 2004, 07:57:04 PM »

Bayh/Warner-kind ticket has one problem. The feminist/gay/anti-religious/hippie fraction of the Democratic Party wouldn't vote for them. I can see some Nader-kind guy getting 5 or even 10 percent of vote. I don't think that Bayh can get enough votes from the centre to compensate that loss.

I don't think Democrats will win in 08. Their opportunity was in this November and they lost because of the poor candidate. Democrats can win only if Bush/Republicans will blunder very badly.
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« Reply #39 on: November 29, 2004, 02:37:39 AM »


Bayh/Warner-kind ticket has one problem. The feminist/gay/anti-religious/hippie fraction of the Democratic Party wouldn't vote for them. I can see some Nader-kind guy getting 5 or even 10 percent of vote. I don't think that Bayh can get enough votes from the centre to compensate that loss.


They said the same of Clinton and Gore... added to which the gay community can't have anything agaist either Bayh or Warner I would think... but pro-choice groups and the secular ACLU types wouldn't be happy but then again Warner's pro-choice (that said Warner in the Senate would proably have a voting record on abortion similar to Bayh or other moderates).
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« Reply #40 on: November 29, 2004, 10:44:31 AM »

I'm voting for Dukakis.
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« Reply #41 on: November 29, 2004, 11:00:29 AM »


Of course Bayh would be good if he can deliver the entire midwest of course.

I think Bayh would have a pretty realistic chance of doing that

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« Reply #42 on: November 29, 2004, 11:06:56 AM »

Bayh/Warner-kind ticket has one problem. The feminist/gay/anti-religious/hippie fraction of the Democratic Party wouldn't vote for them. I can see some Nader-kind guy getting 5 or even 10 percent of vote. I don't think that Bayh can get enough votes from the centre to compensate that loss.

I don't think Democrats will win in 08. Their opportunity was in this November and they lost because of the poor candidate. Democrats can win only if Bush/Republicans will blunder very badly.

I don't think the feminist/gay/anti-religious/hippie fraction of the Democratic Party are even that stupid to let the Republicans back in. Besides, I think Bayh would fair much better among 'moderates' than Kerry did

I believe that the Democratic Party will move to the ideological centre out of necessity.

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« Reply #43 on: November 29, 2004, 09:44:05 PM »
« Edited: November 29, 2004, 10:49:36 PM by ian »

To tell the truth, my heart says GEPHARDT AGAIN!!!!! 
But my brain tells me that we need fresh meat in the party to invigorate the souls of the Democrats. 
But if I have to pick from popular characters, I would choose Sen. Mary Landrieu from Louisiana.  I think that she's a great because of her energy, moderacy, and youth.  She gets my vote. 

I definitely wouldn't support Evan Bayh because of his stance on prayer in schools; I definitely wouldn't support Mark Warner because I find him terribly dislikable, and I'm sure that many others do as well (when he spoke at the DNC I found him to be utterly reprehensible). 

To make this short and sweet, I would support dung before I support ALAN COLMES (WTF?), Daschle, Graham, Gore, Sharpton, Lieberman, and Ted Kennedy.  I would vote Giuliani over many Democrats, and McCain over about anyone.

Democrats rumored to want the position for whom I would vote if they ran against Giuliani, Pataki, Schwartneagger, moderate Repub (minus Landrieu):
1. Hillary, 2. Bill Richardson, 3. Russ Feingold, 4. Kerry, 5. Edwards, 6. John Breaux, 7. Blanche Lincoln (I love her; she is a very nice person), 8, 9, 10, 11. any liberal Arkansas legislative office holder.
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« Reply #44 on: November 29, 2004, 09:54:44 PM »

A woman will never be president in my lifetime. I am convinced of that. Republican/Democrat whatever. I don't see it happening.
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« Reply #45 on: December 02, 2004, 03:38:42 AM »

Mark Warner is the best that's available.
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« Reply #46 on: December 02, 2004, 03:48:14 AM »

Not Daschle or either of the Massachusetts senators please. Maybe in 2040.
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« Reply #47 on: December 02, 2004, 06:27:38 AM »

Bayh/Warner-kind ticket has one problem. The feminist/gay/anti-religious/hippie fraction of the Democratic Party wouldn't vote for them. I can see some Nader-kind guy getting 5 or even 10 percent of vote. I don't think that Bayh can get enough votes from the centre to compensate that loss.

I don't think Democrats will win in 08. Their opportunity was in this November and they lost because of the poor candidate. Democrats can win only if Bush/Republicans will blunder very badly.

Warner could win a primary. He's given good speeches. Bayh is going to have to find a way to find a way to inspire people, if he wants to win the primary.  I'm thinking Warner/Clark, Warner/Richardson, Warner/Feingold, something along those lines.  Maybe Warner/Reid.
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« Reply #48 on: December 02, 2004, 04:51:12 PM »

Warner could win a primary. He's given good speeches. Bayh is going to have to find a way to find a way to inspire people, if he wants to win the primary.  I'm thinking Warner/Clark, Warner/Richardson, Warner/Feingold, something along those lines.  Maybe Warner/Reid.
How about Brendensen? He's succeeded as a Democrat in a southern state, and is a refuge from the North. Best of all he's a budget balancer, and unlike Warner he didn't raise taxes. The Democratic Party needs to really highlight fiscal responsibility.
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« Reply #49 on: December 03, 2004, 12:52:04 AM »

Bayh! I think he should have run this year - but now, he has even better chances.

VP candidates: Warner, Clark or Sens. Landrieu or Lincoln from LA and AR.

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