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Tender Branson
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« on: January 27, 2011, 01:46:12 PM »

Obama Approval Rating:

34% Approve
58% Disapprove

2012 General Election:

54% Huckabee
36% Obama

50% Romney
37% Obama

49% Gingrich
39% Obama

46% Palin
42% Obama

Favorable ratings of GOP candidates:

48% Favorable, 27% Unfavorable - Mike Huckabee
34% Favorable, 37% Unfavorable - Mitt Romney
41% Favorable, 47% Unfavorable - Sarah Palin
33% Favorable, 43% Unfavorable - Newt Gingrich

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PPP surveyed 1,105 West Virginia voters from January 20th to 23rd. The survey’s margin of error is +/-2.9%. Other factors, such as refusal to be interviewed and weighting, may introduce additional error that is more difficult to quantify.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_WV_0127.pdf
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« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2011, 01:47:06 PM »

how did Dukakis win west Virginia?
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« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2011, 01:47:52 PM »

Obama vs. Huckabee



Obama vs. Romney



Obama vs. Gingrich



Obama vs. Palin



Next up: Arizona & South Carolina
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« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2011, 01:50:18 PM »
« Edited: January 27, 2011, 01:55:43 PM by pbrower2a »


The coal miners dominated the state's politics then. It could be that President Obama is simply the wrong sort of Democrat to win West Virginia.  

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President Obama did execrably in Appalachia and the Ozarks in 2008 and until we see otherwise, we should expect the same in 2012. The only good thing for him is that the "not sure" is rising against "disapprove". That could  be evidence of a transition in attitudes.

He now has a better chance of winning Texas than of winning West Virginia in 2012.
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« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2011, 01:53:44 PM »

So, West Virginians prefer a phony Mormon multimillionaire to Obama.
And they wonder why their state is considered a joke .


Back then they voted based on their economic interests, not on who got the endorsement of NRA and Right to Life.
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« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2011, 01:54:11 PM »


The Democratic Party in the 1980s was much more of a class-based party than the Democratic Party these days. There are other reasons as well, but that's the main thing, really.
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« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2011, 01:56:16 PM »

The coal miners dominated the state's politics then.

Employment in the coal industry actually collapsed in the 1980s as almost all of the large underground mines were closed. The industry now - as in most other places - is dominated by small drift mines (yeah, that's not the American term, but you know what I mean) and various forms of opencast mining.
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« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2011, 01:56:34 PM »
« Edited: January 27, 2011, 01:58:44 PM by phknrocket1k »

I remember Al mentioning about 5 years ago that the outgoing GOP governor had a massive scandal that may have helped out Dukakis.
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« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2011, 02:03:23 PM »

WV is trending massively away from the Democratic Presidential candidate for some reason.

Even Bill Clinton did worse in 1996 than in 1992, trendwise.

Obama will be lucky to get 40% in 2012, especially with Huckabee.
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« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2011, 02:04:59 PM »

I remember Al mentioning some time ago that the outgoing GOP governor had a massive scandal that may have helped out Dukakis.

I'd probably tend to downplay that now (my views on what influences elections having changed somewhat) but all the stuff swirling around Moore (who was up for re-election and lost by nearly 18pts. Maybe that's why his daughter is so reluctant to run statewide?) can't have hurt the Democratic ticket. Moore had also done some other very unpopular things (mostly to do with workers compensation IIRC) and only won the Republican primary (against the inevitable Raese) by 6pts.
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« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2011, 02:07:01 PM »


He was white (sort of).
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« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2011, 03:21:57 PM »

Is Huckabee the only one to improve on McCain's performance in WV? I'd have assumed it was only going to get more Republican in 2012 (not that Obama has a chance in hell of winning it).
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« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2011, 05:07:23 PM »

womp womp.
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« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2011, 05:33:28 PM »

you can say that obama can't win WV and national democrats have a pathetic appeal to west virginians. I agree, but palin's numbers are pathetic. she's leading by 4 againts OBAMA??? haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaa
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« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2011, 06:08:02 PM »

I'm actually a little surprised by this, considering that Manchin won noticeably in the Senate race.
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« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2011, 06:17:29 PM »
« Edited: January 27, 2011, 06:29:40 PM by albaleman »

Another Palin-fail. Unless Palin wins the Republican nomination, this is Republican territory - no real surprise.

I'm actually a little surprised by this, considering that Manchin won noticeably in the Senate race.

Manchin won the senate race simply by railing against Obama's policies every chance he had. He would've lost had Shelly Moore Capito run.
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« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2011, 06:58:17 PM »

Manchin won because we basically presented himself as gun and coal-loving, Washington hating redneck...
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« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2011, 08:42:49 PM »

Figured. He'll probably do the same as he did last time.
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« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2011, 11:40:33 PM »

Is the DLC kicking itself right in the rump yet for getting the Democratic Party to abandon economic populism?
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« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2011, 11:46:05 PM »

Is the DLC kicking itself right in the rump yet for getting the Democratic Party to abandon economic populism?



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« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2011, 11:50:10 PM »

Is the DLC kicking itself right in the rump yet for getting the Democratic Party to abandon economic populism?





Have you compared the congressional results now with what they were 35 years ago?
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« Reply #21 on: January 27, 2011, 11:54:26 PM »

Have you compared the congressional results now with what they were 35 years ago?

I think it would be more relevant to compare them to what they were 2 years ago...

And anyways, a bunch of the Ds 35 years ago were Dixiecrats.
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« Reply #22 on: January 27, 2011, 11:57:59 PM »

WV is a miner state, that is more interesting to Republicans in energy policy. Another factor is that state is by some way racist. In 1964, Senator Byrd was re-elected after filibustering Civil Rights Act. Some Democrats, like Jay Rockefeller aren't vunerable only because seniority that is needed by a poor state.
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« Reply #23 on: January 28, 2011, 12:45:04 AM »
« Edited: January 29, 2011, 05:00:17 AM by Eraserhead »

you can say that obama can't win WV and national democrats have a pathetic appeal to west virginians. I agree, but palin's numbers are pathetic. she's leading by 4 againts OBAMA??? haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaa

The fact that she's tied with him in Texas is a better example of her pathetic poll standings.
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« Reply #24 on: January 28, 2011, 12:49:34 AM »

Racism is everywhere, but it's important to note that Obama's percentage wasn't much different than Kerry's, so I don't know how much race actually factored in.
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