BREAKING: Senate Republicans block repeal of DADT

[Mr. Morden]

My prediction is at least 65-35 passage, if not 70-30 as a stand-alone bill.

65-35?  that's 7 out of 42 GOP Senators....no way.  every GOP member knows whoever votes for repeal of DADT will be primaried.  at most, you'll have 2-3 GOP defections.  The GOP is simply trying to stall until January, when there wont be a snow ball's chance of this passing.  They should be honest and state their opposition.

but, again, probably only half of the GOP Senators are social conservatives at heart.

1. Collins
2. Snowe
3. Brown
4. Murkowski
5. Graham
6. Hatch
7. Paul

That's at least 7.

Paul won't actually be sworn in until January though, right?

Sorry, I was thinking next session, but they'd need more than 7 by that point.  But that list was just the first 7 that came to my mind.  I think there are more out there, those are just some that I'm nearly positive would vote for it.

Keep in ming next session it would require it to pass in the House again, and that sure as hell isn't going to happen.

There's enough moderates in the House, for sure for it to pass.

Would the House leadership bring it to the floor next Congress?

No.  Boehner would never let it come to the floor in the first place.  That's why the only way it's going to be repealed any time soon is if they bring up a standalone version in the lame duck session (which means within the next two weeks), and a couple of the Senators who blocked it this time (like Snowe, Brown, and Manchin) switch their votes.

[Smash255]

Smash, much of the objection there was that that DoD's report had yet to come out.  Now that it's out, I think we'll see more Republicans vote for it.

At least another 22?  I doubt it.....

Not to mention as others have said, no way Boehner brings it to the floor.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Smash, much of the objection there was that that DoD's report had yet to come out.  Now that it's out, I think we'll see more Republicans vote for it.

At least another 22?  I doubt it.....

Not to mention as others have said, no way Boehner brings it to the floor.

Now that the report is out, I see no reason for Boehner to object.

[Smash255]

Smash, much of the objection there was that that DoD's report had yet to come out.  Now that it's out, I think we'll see more Republicans vote for it.

At least another 22?  I doubt it.....

Not to mention as others have said, no way Boehner brings it to the floor.

Now that the report is out, I see no reason for Boehner to object.

You really have no idea how far to the right the GOP has become....  The report won't mean a damn thing to Boehner or the vast majority of the GOP.   It has no chance of passing Congress unless it passes this session.  No way in hell does the Boehner or the GOP allow it

[LBJ Revivalist]

Smash, much of the objection there was that that DoD's report had yet to come out.  Now that it's out, I think we'll see more Republicans vote for it.

At least another 22?  I doubt it.....

Not to mention as others have said, no way Boehner brings it to the floor.

Now that the report is out, I see no reason for Boehner to object.

You really have no idea how far to the right the GOP has become....  The report won't mean a damn thing to Boehner or the vast majority of the GOP.   It has no chance of passing Congress unless it passes this session.  No way in hell does the Boehner or the GOP allow it

The Republicans would block it simply because Obama and the Democrats support it.
Hell, if the Democrats passed a measure simply stating that the sky is blue, the Republicans would object to it and call it an anti-American, communist measure at this point.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Smash, much of the objection there was that that DoD's report had yet to come out.  Now that it's out, I think we'll see more Republicans vote for it.

At least another 22?  I doubt it.....

Not to mention as others have said, no way Boehner brings it to the floor.

Now that the report is out, I see no reason for Boehner to object.

You really have no idea how far to the right the GOP has become....  The report won't mean a damn thing to Boehner or the vast majority of the GOP.   It has no chance of passing Congress unless it passes this session.  No way in hell does the Boehner or the GOP allow it

The Republicans would block it simply because Obama and the Democrats support it.
Hell, if the Democrats passed a measure simply stating that the sky is blue, the Republicans would object to it and call it an anti-American, communist measure at this point.

I have no doubt that some would... I just have more hope that the majority of my party wouldn't.

[Sbane]

Well States the blacks could just paint themselves white so that they could be "normal" like you want them.   After all, that's essentially what you're asking gay and lesbian men and women to do.

For the five hundredth time, homosexuality is a BEHAVIOR it's not the same as race.

If you think homosexuality is a choice, you shouldn't be calling anyone an idiot.

[LBJ Revivalist]

Well States the blacks could just paint themselves white so that they could be "normal" like you want them.   After all, that's essentially what you're asking gay and lesbian men and women to do.

For the five hundredth time, homosexuality is a BEHAVIOR it's not the same as race.

If you think homosexuality is a choice, you shouldn't be calling anyone an idiot.

Exactly. I'm straight; I didn't choose to be attracted to women. I just am. I imagine it's the same for gays.

[Smash255]

Smash, much of the objection there was that that DoD's report had yet to come out.  Now that it's out, I think we'll see more Republicans vote for it.

At least another 22?  I doubt it.....

Not to mention as others have said, no way Boehner brings it to the floor.

Now that the report is out, I see no reason for Boehner to object.

You really have no idea how far to the right the GOP has become....  The report won't mean a damn thing to Boehner or the vast majority of the GOP.   It has no chance of passing Congress unless it passes this session.  No way in hell does the Boehner or the GOP allow it

The Republicans would block it simply because Obama and the Democrats support it.
Hell, if the Democrats passed a measure simply stating that the sky is blue, the Republicans would object to it and call it an anti-American, communist measure at this point.

"Well technically, if you would follow their environmental policy they would end up right"   Jon Stewart on the Republicans saying no to Obama that the ski was blue.

[Sbane]

True, heterosexual sex isn't a behavior either. Guess your post dodges mean I'm right again.

Who the hell is taking about sex??

I find it rather interesting that the religious right who  are opposed to the repeal of DADT are always obsessed about the sexual aspect of homosexuality.  

Of course they are. They can't imagine that a gay person could be a normal human being who acts professionally and keeps their private and professional lives separate. No, to them every gay person is a promiscuous "fabulous" flamer.

[Sbane]

Smash, much of the objection there was that that DoD's report had yet to come out.  Now that it's out, I think we'll see more Republicans vote for it.

I think you're being a bit naive here.....

 Anyways we'll see how this plays out. Especially now that the military is totally behind it. If the Republicans vote against DADT repeal even when it's the only issue in the bill, then you will see their true colors. Or not. Maybe you will just try to find some other excuse why they voted against it.

[Brittain33]

There is no way Boehner is going to bring up repeal. It's not that he has to object, he just won't do it. It's too divisive for his caucus and Republicans (like Democrats) don't have a history of bringing up legislation that is supported by a large majority of their opponents and only the most moderate members of their own caucus.

If DADT isn't repealed in this Congress, conservative Republicans will have killed it with the easy acquiescence of moderate Republicans. We need to be honest about that.