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« Reply #25 on: November 28, 2004, 04:21:47 PM »

One loophole in this bill is that although their 2 year housing voucher may expire, there is no cap for food stamps so they can still collect from the government despite no longer being a legal welfare recepient.
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« Reply #26 on: November 28, 2004, 04:30:03 PM »

I propose two ammendments

First:
Also, In Clause 2, item A  paragraph III, the word veteran shall be replaced by veteran permanently disabled in military duty.

Second:
To strike down item I of clause 2, due to incompatibility with the constitution.

Can you open vote on this 2 ammendments.

At the end of the debate period, that is how it is supposed to work, I have been lenient of late.
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« Reply #27 on: December 04, 2004, 12:17:18 PM »
« Edited: December 04, 2004, 12:31:11 PM by Senator John F. Kennedy, PPT »

I propose two ammendments

First:
Also, In Clause 2, item A  paragraph III, the word veteran shall be replaced by veteran permanently disabled in military duty.

Second:
To strike down item d of clause 2, due to incompatibility with the constitution.


The debate period has expired.

Would all please vote Yea, Nay or abstain on the first amendment.

Would all please vote Yea, Nay or abstain on the second amendment.
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« Reply #28 on: December 04, 2004, 12:25:10 PM »

Yea.

Yea.
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« Reply #29 on: December 04, 2004, 12:31:20 PM »

Yea

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« Reply #30 on: December 04, 2004, 02:40:12 PM »

Yea

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« Reply #31 on: December 04, 2004, 03:34:21 PM »

Yea.
Yea.
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« Reply #32 on: December 04, 2004, 05:52:20 PM »

Nay (many veterans come back really messed up, and though they're not "permanently disabled," they become totally less capable of existing in society"

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« Reply #33 on: December 06, 2004, 12:22:54 AM »

Nay

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« Reply #34 on: December 06, 2004, 09:19:55 PM »

Nay

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« Reply #35 on: December 10, 2004, 05:55:57 PM »

Nay

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« Reply #36 on: December 11, 2004, 04:56:30 AM »

Voting on ammendments ends today.Will the Vp break the tie on the first ammendment, so we can vote on the full bill?
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« Reply #37 on: December 11, 2004, 06:06:21 AM »

Voting on ammendments ends today.Will the Vp break the tie on the first ammendment, so we can vote on the full bill?

Voting technically ends at 12:17:18 PM, and even then it still needs to be officially closed before the VP can step in to break the tie.

Hopefully StatesRights will at least see that it is incumbent upon in his duty to bother to vote on legislation.
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« Reply #38 on: December 12, 2004, 11:02:17 AM »

JFK, close this damn thing. Please.
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« Reply #39 on: December 12, 2004, 11:03:40 AM »

Yea
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« Reply #40 on: December 12, 2004, 11:04:56 AM »


Don't get stressy!

With five votes in favour to four against the first amendment has passed.

With nine votes in favour to none against, the second amendment has passed.

I hereby open the voting on the bill itself.

Please vote Yea, Nay or abstain.

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« Reply #41 on: December 12, 2004, 11:08:59 AM »

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« Reply #42 on: December 12, 2004, 11:31:04 AM »

For all those wondering what the bill presently looks like, here it is:

Clause 1.  Atlasians receiving public assistance will be alloted a two year maximum with the following exceptions:

       a. Disability
       b. Perpetual care of dependent

Clause 2.  Section 8 housing vouchers
 
     a.  Maximum two years unrestricted with the following exceptions:

            i. Disability
            ii.  Over the age of 65
            iii. Veteran permanently disabled in military duty

     b.  Housing shall be rented at the average market value for rent given a two block radius and the same accomodations.

     c.  Anyone convicted of a felony shall be removed from the program

     d.  "Three Strikes Clause"

            i.  Any minor problems such as noise violations, unkempt property that is the fault of the tenant, or any generally disruptive needing a police prescence shall be given three chances.

Clause 3.  Any able-bodied Atlasian on public assistance and not currently working shall be required to do 20 hours of community service plus 20 hours of job searching and/or interviews.
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« Reply #43 on: December 12, 2004, 02:29:48 PM »

Yea.
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« Reply #44 on: December 12, 2004, 04:38:27 PM »

Yea.
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« Reply #45 on: December 13, 2004, 03:55:37 PM »

Yea.
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« Reply #46 on: December 13, 2004, 03:56:46 PM »

Yea.
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« Reply #47 on: December 13, 2004, 05:46:18 PM »

I would have like to have seen a review board put in to possible extend the time on welfare past two years on a case-by-case basis.  However, there is nothing I disagree with.

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« Reply #48 on: December 13, 2004, 06:40:49 PM »

Yea
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« Reply #49 on: December 13, 2004, 08:22:04 PM »

Yea.
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