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« Reply #25 on: November 28, 2010, 04:50:33 PM »

The Federal government has NO LEGAL JURISDICTION regarding marriage. Powers not specifically deligated to the federal government nor prohibited to the states are the rights of the states and the people. Thus it must be left to the states. On the state level, I personally view homosexuality as sin and is not in the best intrest of conduct in a free society. So no marriage or civil unions. Beyond that I do advocate nondiscrimination laws in the work place (except in faith establishments and the military)

What is the problem with gays in military, Einstein?
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« Reply #26 on: November 28, 2010, 05:29:30 PM »

To preserve the culture of honor in the military. They have strict consequences for enlisted and officer alike if one is caught in adultery regarding hetero relationships. Besides choosing to be gay is a lifestyle choice not an intrinsic or God given difference that warrants constuitional protection. God created men to be with and love women in romantic ways. Gayness perverts the views that God is a father or viewing God as husband. I'd propose that anyone that gets married who has enlisted is to immediately be given a year off upon the wedding be with his wife and bring her joy then resume service. Even in times of war.
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« Reply #27 on: November 28, 2010, 05:37:25 PM »

To preserve the culture of honor in the military.

Show me a single proof that a homosexuality affects abilities to serve in the Army.

Also, please learn about history, which is full of homosexualism in armies... not to mention a lot of competent and skilled gay soldiers.

Wait... why am I even talking to an obvious sock?

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« Reply #28 on: November 28, 2010, 05:57:26 PM »

Fully support.

However, civil unions with identical legal rights is a reasonable compromise, with conferral of "marriage" dependent on the institution.
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« Reply #29 on: November 28, 2010, 07:17:01 PM »

Support, strongly.  I'd prefer if government didn't define this, but that's never happening.


Oh come on, BRTD...you know perfectly well what he means. (Even though I very strongly disagree with the notion.)

I think it only makes sense if you take the argument blindly.  Yes, marriage is intended to incentivize the "domestic life" -- kids and all that.  But gays cannot live the domestic life?  I wonder if GMantis has a problem with heterosexuals getting married and adopting.  The government could easily allocate marriage benefits to only those with actual families, but has this ever been proposed seriously anyway?  It doesn't seem like anyone feels particularly strongly that this "contradicts the point of marriage" until gays want in on the institution -- and apparently, in their case, it isn't even worth trying to incentivize domesticity with them.  I can't imagine how this could be convincing to anyone.
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« Reply #30 on: November 28, 2010, 07:48:12 PM »

To preserve the culture of honor in the military. They have strict consequences for enlisted and officer alike if one is caught in adultery regarding hetero relationships. Besides choosing to be gay is a lifestyle choice not an intrinsic or God given difference that warrants constitutional protection. God created men to be with and love women in romantic ways. Gayness perverts the views that God is a father or viewing God as husband. I'd propose that anyone that gets married who has enlisted is to immediately be given a year off upon the wedding be with his wife and bring her joy then resume service. Even in times of war.

And the 40% of the people on this site that are gay/bi all say in unison: Being gay is not a choice.
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« Reply #31 on: November 28, 2010, 07:56:29 PM »

To preserve the culture of honor in the military. They have strict consequences for enlisted and officer alike if one is caught in adultery regarding hetero relationships. Besides choosing to be gay is a lifestyle choice not an intrinsic or God given difference that warrants constitutional protection. God created men to be with and love women in romantic ways. Gayness perverts the views that God is a father or viewing God as husband. I'd propose that anyone that gets married who has enlisted is to immediately be given a year off upon the wedding be with his wife and bring her joy then resume service. Even in times of war.

And the 40% of the people on this site that are gay/bi all say in unison: Being gay is not a choice.

OK... I have a small giggle when ever anyone says 'gayness'.

...and the Bible is not a biology textbook, humans are not special, homosexuality exists in several species of mammals, and is quite prevalent in our nearest genetic relatives.

..viewing God as a husband?....
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« Reply #32 on: November 28, 2010, 08:03:04 PM »

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« Reply #33 on: November 28, 2010, 09:21:07 PM »

Read up on what is known as the Bridal Paradigm.
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« Reply #34 on: November 29, 2010, 01:55:20 AM »

Read up on what is known as the Bridal Paradigm.


If it's what I think it is, it's regarding Jesus as the bridegroom and 'man' as the bride.

It's based on what I find a particularly reprehensible concept of the 'obedient' wife, it has nothing to do with love or passion, but obedience.

I don't believe in the unequal relationship between men and women in a marriage - so I find the concept offensive and wrong.

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« Reply #35 on: November 29, 2010, 01:57:58 AM »

I don't think it's the province of the state to define what is and isn't marriage - that's for people to decide within the context of their own religion and personal morality.  I think that all state-sanctioned "marriage" should be eliminated, and any two consenting adults who wish to file a joint tax return should be allowed to do so, and that any two consenting adults of any gender or relation should be allowed to legally designate each other as next of kin.

But yes, if the state is maintaining its monopoly on the marriage franchise, it might as well be extended to as many people as possible.
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« Reply #36 on: November 29, 2010, 03:02:11 PM »

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« Reply #37 on: November 29, 2010, 05:48:29 PM »

Oppose
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« Reply #38 on: November 30, 2010, 07:55:23 PM »

Support, but I'd be fine with civil unions too.
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« Reply #39 on: November 30, 2010, 08:10:42 PM »

Gay couples deserve the same rights and the same respect as any straight couple. 

Support. 
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« Reply #40 on: December 01, 2010, 03:26:06 PM »

About the same as my opinion of heterosexual marriage.
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« Reply #41 on: December 01, 2010, 03:29:29 PM »

100% in favor.
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« Reply #42 on: December 01, 2010, 05:23:25 PM »

     I support them being legal. I have no real opinion as to the marriages themselves.
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« Reply #43 on: December 01, 2010, 05:34:42 PM »


Nuns may wear rings but they do not ask for tax breaks for being married to God.

That was quite a rambling and irrelevant collection of statements you made in that post.  Probably it made sense to you at the time you posted it.  Glad to see that I'm not the only one who does that. 

Anyway, I don't have a problem with same-sex marriage and it should certainly be legal.  I voted "support" but in reality I can't make a blanket statement like that.  I could imagine supporting or opposing it in specific instances, just like I have opinions about specific hetero marriages.  If a friend is getting married to someone and it doesn't seem right, and he asks me about it, really asks me my opinion, I'll give it to him.  This has happened in the past with hetero marriages, and I haven't generally treated the few gay friends I have radically different than the straight people I know, so I can imagine opposing some same-sex marriages as well.
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« Reply #44 on: December 01, 2010, 05:37:23 PM »

Civil Unions/Domestic Partnerships
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« Reply #45 on: December 01, 2010, 06:31:24 PM »


Nuns may wear rings but they do not ask for tax breaks for being married to God.

That was quite a rambling and irrelevant collection of statements you made in that post.  Probably it made sense to you at the time you posted it.  Glad to see that I'm not the only one who does that. 

Anyway, I don't have a problem with same-sex marriage and it should certainly be legal.  I voted "support" but in reality I can't make a blanket statement like that.  I could imagine supporting or opposing it in specific instances, just like I have opinions about specific hetero marriages.  If a friend is getting married to someone and it doesn't seem right, and he asks me about it, really asks me my opinion, I'll give it to him.  This has happened in the past with hetero marriages, and I haven't generally treated the few gay friends I have radically different than the straight people I know, so I can imagine opposing some same-sex marriages as well.

I was responding to the concept of the 'Bridal Paradigm' ... but thanks Smiley (it still makes sense to me)

There are plenty of people who shouldn't get married period, gay/straight etc etc
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« Reply #46 on: December 01, 2010, 08:04:10 PM »

Disgusting, really.
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« Reply #47 on: December 01, 2010, 08:10:56 PM »

Support.

Now, leave these people the hell alone and get on with your own life!
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« Reply #48 on: December 02, 2010, 05:05:24 PM »

Beyond a doubt the most critical civil rights issue in decades.
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« Reply #49 on: December 03, 2010, 11:28:36 PM »

Beyond a doubt the most critical civil rights issue in decades.

Yeah, unfortunately you have no "right" to be married, other then the one you made up in your head.
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