WE MADE HISTORY!

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Really says a lot about the Democrats that they've been rooting for Murkowski over Miller because she's a supposed "moderate". A "moderate" who supported pretty much every facet of the George W. Bush agenda which they claim to oppose.

Libertas, Joe Miller served as a federal magistrate judge under George W. Bush and federal judges

Thanks, that's relevant information.

Oh wait, no, it really isn't.

[tpfkaw]

Moderates lost a lot of ground in both parties in this election, but think about how extraordinary it is that the silent majority of mainstream Americans has to start writing-in its candidates because the two major parties are under assault by libertarian and socialist extremists.

Anyone who is seriously calling Obama and his allies "socialist" need to shut the hell up, because is insulting the real socialists.

Here's a deal.  When the "real socialists" stop supporting Obama, I'll stop calling him a socialist.

Really says a lot about the Democrats that they've been rooting for Murkowski over Miller because she's a supposed "moderate". A "moderate" who supported pretty much every facet of the George W. Bush agenda which they claim to oppose.

Libertas, Joe Miller served as a federal magistrate judge under George W. Bush and federal judges

You know what else?  Kalwejt was alive while George W. Bush was president.

[Phony Moderate]

Here's a deal.  When the "real socialists" stop supporting Obama, I'll stop calling him a socialist.

Tip: If you're going to make such an incredibly subjective claim like that, you should probably provide evidence to back it up (if you want and/or need advice, please PM me). I suspect you won't (although you can make an effort to prove me wrong), because you come across as a standard 'libertarian', i.e. someone who thinks all his/her views are correct, and all other views are wrong.

Anyway, to answer your 'claim', even Ron Paul has said that Obama is not a socialist. Obama is in fact a corporatist:

http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/economy/commentary-mainmenu-43/3303-ron-paul-obama-is-another-corporatist-not-a-socialist

You must be logged in to read this quote.

[GMantis]

Moderates lost a lot of ground in both parties in this election, but think about how extraordinary it is that the silent majority of mainstream Americans has to start writing-in its candidates because the two major parties are under assault by libertarian and socialist extremists.

Anyone who is seriously calling Obama and his allies "socialist" need to shut the hell up, because is insulting the real socialists.

Here's a deal.  When the "real socialists" stop supporting Obama, I'll stop calling him a socialist.

The real fascists are supporting the Tea Party, but you don't like the Tea Party called fascist, do you?

[TheDeadFlagBlues]

The "real socialists" don't support Obama...

[rbt48]

Has an Alaska senate race vote total ever been reported following the counting of the final 700 absentee ballots?  The ADN promised to report the totals, but I have not been able to find any update.

[??????????]

This is probably the best result of the night besides Sharron Angle losing. Joe Miller was a personal scumbag, arrogant to the extreme without cause, obviously doesn't care for the will of the voters and was to the right of every major American politician this side of modernity. He even opposed the 17th amendment, which allows for the direct election of Senators. So he opposed the very mechanism by which he wanted to be elected. And he would take us back before the 1910s. What's next, Republicans who support the re-institution of slavery? The disenfranchisement of blacks and women? Returnining Louisiana to France? According to Libertas, even the Constitution itself doomed the nation. We should return to the rule of King George. Even that's not enough. The Enlightenment started Communism. Return to the rule of the Roman Catholic Church. Even that's too progressive - Constantine and all. Return to the stone age.

The right wing fantasy is the collapse of capitalism - the collapse of the bond markets, fractional reserve banking, and modern civilization, resulting in the devastation of the lives of billions of people. Then they seize power and restore the 17th century. F them. F Joe Miller. I would support the most corrupt nihilist in history with no beliefs over that.

Halloween is over, you can put away all your strawmen now. Repealing the 17th amendment wouldn't lead to "zomg slavery", don't be a fool. It would probably HELP restore a proper balance of state vs individual representation in the Congress. Kind of like the way it is SUPPOSED to be. Your post is borderline excessive hyperbole.

[Franzl]

How decides how something is "supposed" to be, States? Just because it was the "Founders' intent", doesn't make it correct per se.

You need to judge things on their merits, not just because a group of people centuries ago intended for it to be that way. I could just as well argue that the Founders provided us a way to amend the Constitution, which is precisely what was done.....so it's all ok, right?

[Badger]

Worst election outcome of the year.

Especially since she's stated she's pretty much going to support the Democrat party.

Huh? IIRC I'm pretty sure she stated she'd caucus with the GOP as usual. Is there a link to her saying otherwise?

[Badger]

Moderates lost a lot of ground in both parties in this election, but think about how extraordinary it is that the silent majority of mainstream Americans has to start writing-in its candidates because the two major parties are under assault by libertarian and socialist extremists.

Anyone who is seriously calling Obama and his allies "socialist" need to shut the hell up, because is insulting the real socialists.

Here's a deal.  When the "real socialists" stop supporting Obama, I'll stop calling him a socialist.

Done.

http://socialistparty-usa.org/statements/no3962.html

http://socialistparty-usa.org/statements/1209obamasurge.html

http://socialistparty-usa.org/statements/feb2010hcsummit.html

http://socialistparty-usa.org/statements/financialcrisis012509.html

http://socialistparty-usa.org/statements/defendcivillib7282010.html

http://socialistparty-usa.org/statements/postelecattac112008.html

Remember, you promised.

[Niemeyerite]

A real socialist doesn't support obama. a real socialist prefers obama over any republican. but it doesn't mean they like him (I consider myself a socialdemocrat, an european "socialist").
for example, if you say me, who do you prefer: aznar or htler? I'd say aznar, but I also hate him. those socialists think aznar is obama and hitler is a republican xD

[Stranger in a strange land]

Castle would have accomplished nothing except throwing the race to O'Donnell. I am glad Joe Miller isn't going to the Senate though. Hopefully he'll run against Begich in 2014.

[Хahar 🤔]

Don't be silly, Beet. The far right is Wall Street.

Wall Street is about money and capitalism. The Right means restoring of the oldest and most pre-modern social and economic institutions possible. If the latter is what you want to do, you have to collapse the status quo first. Granted, you can try to do the same thing from the Left, but currently, the Right is seen as having a better chance to benefit from Collapse.

The powers that be are the Right. They wouldn't commit suicide.

[??????????]

How decides how something is "supposed" to be, States? Just because it was the "Founders' intent", doesn't make it correct per se.

You need to judge things on their merits, not just because a group of people centuries ago intended for it to be that way. I could just as well argue that the Founders provided us a way to amend the Constitution, which is precisely what was done.....so it's all ok, right?

The reason for the founders creating the legislative body in the way they did was for a purpose. It wasn't created to just be a voice of the individual, the Senate was created to be a voice of the state in the federal government. The whole system as it is now is completely out of whack due to this change. Sure, they gave us a way to amend the constitution but does that mean the change is always a good idea? Remember prohibition? Beets assertions are based in hyperbole and nonsense.

[Franzl]

Alright, fair enough....but it still doesn't explain why the Founders' opinion is relevant.

If we're going to argue about this....wouldn't it be more logical to argue the merits of state representation in the Senate, rather than simply talking about what a group of people a long time ago thought was best?

[King]

Miller opposes the PATRIOT Act and the neocon foreign policy.  So logically the libs here should have supported him over Murkowski.  Of course, they don't really care about that stuff, they only make it a rule to support the most statist candidates possible.

Ironically, Murkowski ended up being one of the only 8 votes against Patriot Act re-authorization.

This thread is still a fun bit of extreme excessive hyperbole.