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US House Redistricting: Georgia
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lowtech redneck
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Re: US House Redistricting: Georgia
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Reply #200 on:
August 25, 2011, 10:42:10 AM »
Quote from: krazen1211 on August 25, 2011, 09:38:22 AM
Dunwoody is pretty pricey, is it not?
The median income for a household in the CDP was $82,838, and the median income for a family was $100,796.
I was thinking more about the areas between Dunwoody and south Dekalb, like Doraville and Tucker-places that have seen substantial hispanic growth but relatively lackluster black growth. I guess it could just be a social snowballing effect ("hey, this family member/friend of mine, who happens to be my own ethnicity, just moved to this place and says that its great! Let's move there and say the same thing to other family/friends who are coincidentally the same ethnicity as us!).
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Bacon King
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Re: US House Redistricting: Georgia
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Reply #201 on:
August 27, 2011, 06:06:37 PM »
Finally got around to looking up the amended map.
Here's a link for anyone that's curious
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Kingston gets Moody AFB after all, which causes the 1st, 8th, and 12th districts to each rotate a little bit clockwise. The 11th takes in a bit more of Fulton, making the 6th slightly safer. The 3rd gets a bit more of Fayette, at the request of a few state legislators in the area.
Quote from: lowtech redneck on August 25, 2011, 10:42:10 AM
Quote from: krazen1211 on August 25, 2011, 09:38:22 AM
Dunwoody is pretty pricey, is it not?
The median income for a household in the CDP was $82,838, and the median income for a family was $100,796.
I was thinking more about the areas between Dunwoody and south Dekalb, like Doraville and Tucker-places that have seen substantial hispanic growth but relatively lackluster black growth. I guess it could just be a social snowballing effect ("hey, this family member/friend of mine, who happens to be my own ethnicity, just moved to this place and says that its great! Let's move there and say the same thing to other family/friends who are coincidentally the same ethnicity as us!).
That's definitely true for Hispanics, with the language barrier playing a huge role in it.
To give you an overly simplistic answer, blacks aren't moving to Doraville/Tucker/etc. because when someone's moving out into the suburbs it's because of upward social mobility, so they wouldn't be moving into an area that's poorer than the area they left.
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lowtech redneck
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Posts: 276
Re: US House Redistricting: Georgia
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Reply #202 on:
August 28, 2011, 07:39:14 AM »
Quote from: Bacon King on August 27, 2011, 06:06:37 PM
Finally got around to looking up the amended map.
Here's a link for anyone that's curious
.
Kingston gets Moody AFB after all, which causes the 1st, 8th, and 12th districts to each rotate a little bit clockwise. The 11th takes in a bit more of Fulton, making the 6th slightly safer. The 3rd gets a bit more of Fayette, at the request of a few state legislators in the area.
Quote from: lowtech redneck on August 25, 2011, 10:42:10 AM
Quote from: krazen1211 on August 25, 2011, 09:38:22 AM
Dunwoody is pretty pricey, is it not?
The median income for a household in the CDP was $82,838, and the median income for a family was $100,796.
I was thinking more about the areas between Dunwoody and south Dekalb, like Doraville and Tucker-places that have seen substantial hispanic growth but relatively lackluster black growth. I guess it could just be a social snowballing effect ("hey, this family member/friend of mine, who happens to be my own ethnicity, just moved to this place and says that its great! Let's move there and say the same thing to other family/friends who are coincidentally the same ethnicity as us!).
That's definitely true for Hispanics, with the language barrier playing a huge role in it.
To give you an overly simplistic answer, blacks aren't moving to Doraville/Tucker/etc. because when someone's moving out into the suburbs it's because of upward social mobility, so they wouldn't be moving into an area that's poorer than the area they left.
I'm not so sure that applies to Tucker (which is right next door to me), in relation to nearby areas in south Dekalb:
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/moneymag/bplive/2008/snapshots/PL1377652.html
The job growth percentage might explain it, though (ouch!); now I'm wondering why any hispanics want to move here....
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BigSkyBob
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Re: US House Redistricting: Georgia
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Reply #203 on:
August 30, 2011, 11:26:28 PM »
Tomorrow might be final passage. Passed committee today.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/G/GA_GEORGIA_REDISTRICTING_GAOL-?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
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BigSkyBob
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Posts: 2,419
Re: US House Redistricting: Georgia
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Reply #204 on:
September 01, 2011, 12:03:21 AM »
http://www.legis.ga.gov/Joint/reapportionment/Documents/CONGPROP2.html
Passes State Senate, and awaits Governor's signature.
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Lewis Trondheim
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Re: US House Redistricting: Georgia
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Reply #205 on:
October 08, 2011, 05:54:23 AM »
I somehow completely missed this. Not that the end result is surprising in any way.
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krazen1211
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Posts: 7,376
Re: US House Redistricting: Georgia
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Reply #206 on:
December 26, 2011, 06:14:48 PM »
«
Edited:
December 26, 2011, 06:18:01 PM
by
krazen1211 »
http://buckhead.patch.com/articles/lindsey-praises-u-s-approval-of-georgia-redistricting-maps
Precleared.
I believe that wraps up the South?
SC, NC, MS, AL, LA area all finished.
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Yelnoc
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Posts: 7,009
Re: US House Redistricting: Georgia
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Reply #207 on:
December 26, 2011, 07:41:11 PM »
Ah c'mon. They put me with Barrow and Walton? Really?
Really?
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Mr.Phips
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Posts: 6,782
Re: US House Redistricting: Georgia
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Reply #208 on:
December 26, 2011, 09:40:57 PM »
Jesus H. Christ, does Obama care a bit about a Democratic majority in the House. What was done in GA-12 clearly turned a black influence district in to one where they have no chance at all.
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Bacon King
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Re: US House Redistricting: Georgia
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Reply #209 on:
December 26, 2011, 10:14:34 PM »
Quote from: Yelnoc on December 26, 2011, 07:41:11 PM
Ah c'mon. They put me with Barrow and Walton? Really?
Really?
Hey now, don't hate on Barrow!
I think a bigger complaint is that they put both of us in a district that stretches from the Northeast Atlanta suburbs all the way to Vidalia onion country. And the biggest problem is that Paul Broun is now our Congressman
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Skill and Chance
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Posts: 6,838
Re: US House Redistricting: Georgia
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Reply #210 on:
December 27, 2011, 12:20:21 AM »
Quote from: krazen1211 on December 26, 2011, 06:14:48 PM
http://buckhead.patch.com/articles/lindsey-praises-u-s-approval-of-georgia-redistricting-maps
Precleared.
I believe that wraps up the South?
SC, NC, MS, AL, LA area all finished.
I would have thought the DOJ would object to GA-12. Rather surprising they didn't. Maybe they feel that GA-02 now provides sufficient opportunity in south GA?
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krazen1211
Concerned Citizen
Posts: 7,376
Re: US House Redistricting: Georgia
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Reply #211 on:
December 27, 2011, 10:15:58 AM »
Quote from: Skill and Chance on December 27, 2011, 12:20:21 AM
Quote from: krazen1211 on December 26, 2011, 06:14:48 PM
http://buckhead.patch.com/articles/lindsey-praises-u-s-approval-of-georgia-redistricting-maps
Precleared.
I believe that wraps up the South?
SC, NC, MS, AL, LA area all finished.
I would have thought the DOJ would object to GA-12. Rather surprising they didn't. Maybe they feel that GA-02 now provides sufficient opportunity in south GA?
Georgia also had a secondary lawsuit in place to overturn S5.
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Yelnoc
Concerned Citizen
Posts: 7,009
Re: US House Redistricting: Georgia
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Reply #212 on:
December 27, 2011, 04:28:23 PM »
Quote from: Bacon King, VP on December 26, 2011, 10:14:34 PM
Quote from: Yelnoc on December 26, 2011, 07:41:11 PM
Ah c'mon. They put me with Barrow and Walton? Really?
Really?
Hey now, don't hate on Barrow!
I think a bigger complaint is that they put both of us in a district that stretches from the Northeast Atlanta suburbs all the way to Vidalia onion country. And the biggest problem is that Paul Broun is now our Congressman
*Grinds teeth together*
What will happen to Woodall?
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muon2
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Posts: 15,841
Re: US House Redistricting: Georgia
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Reply #213 on:
December 27, 2011, 05:19:03 PM »
Quote from: krazen1211 on December 27, 2011, 10:15:58 AM
Quote from: Skill and Chance on December 27, 2011, 12:20:21 AM
Quote from: krazen1211 on December 26, 2011, 06:14:48 PM
http://buckhead.patch.com/articles/lindsey-praises-u-s-approval-of-georgia-redistricting-maps
Precleared.
I believe that wraps up the South?
SC, NC, MS, AL, LA area all finished.
I would have thought the DOJ would object to GA-12. Rather surprising they didn't. Maybe they feel that GA-02 now provides sufficient opportunity in south GA?
Georgia also had a secondary lawsuit in place to overturn S5.
Is that the real reason DOJ has been so accommodating to the southern state review? By accepting the plans it negates any section 5 challenge. Many observers think that the court could be ripe to overturn section 5 and this way DOJ maintains its authority without challenge.
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krazen1211
Concerned Citizen
Posts: 7,376
Re: US House Redistricting: Georgia
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Reply #214 on:
December 27, 2011, 07:27:08 PM »
Quote from: muon2 on December 27, 2011, 05:19:03 PM
Quote from: krazen1211 on December 27, 2011, 10:15:58 AM
Georgia also had a secondary lawsuit in place to overturn S5.
Is that the real reason DOJ has been so accommodating to the southern state review? By accepting the plans it negates any section 5 challenge. Many observers think that the court could be ripe to overturn section 5 and this way DOJ maintains its authority without challenge.
After making a massive stink over the Georgia voter verification laws for over a year, they ended up preclearing the plan in August 2010 in about 24 hours. Georgia then dismissed the lawsuit in that case. Slightly complicating the issue was that Georgia AG Thurbert Baker (who is black, btw) refused to do his job and fight the DOJ, so he was bypassed by Sonny Perdue.
http://www.lawyerscommittee.org/projects/voting_rights/page?id=0062
So yeah, they have rolled the DOJ before. Basically the 3 main points of conflict this cycle are South Carolina voter ID, Texas voter ID (which will certainly be withdrawn soon and head to the DC circuit), and Texas redistricting of course.
Attorney General Olens is 'bundling' in generic S5 complaint in all his filings now and dismissing the suits after he gets what he wants.
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Lewis Trondheim
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Posts: 58,232
Re: US House Redistricting: Georgia
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Reply #215 on:
December 28, 2011, 11:46:57 AM »
Quote from: muon2 on December 27, 2011, 05:19:03 PM
Quote from: krazen1211 on December 27, 2011, 10:15:58 AM
Quote from: Skill and Chance on December 27, 2011, 12:20:21 AM
Quote from: krazen1211 on December 26, 2011, 06:14:48 PM
http://buckhead.patch.com/articles/lindsey-praises-u-s-approval-of-georgia-redistricting-maps
Precleared.
I believe that wraps up the South?
SC, NC, MS, AL, LA area all finished.
I would have thought the DOJ would object to GA-12. Rather surprising they didn't. Maybe they feel that GA-02 now provides sufficient opportunity in south GA?
Georgia also had a secondary lawsuit in place to overturn S5.
Is that the real reason DOJ has been so accommodating to the southern state review? By accepting the plans it negates any section 5 challenge. Many observers think that the court could be ripe to overturn section 5 and this way DOJ maintains its authority without challenge.
Not much of an authority though, is it, in that case?
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