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« on: November 10, 2004, 12:47:35 AM »
Over the past few weeks I have notice how I really don't fit in with the Republican Party anymore. My views started to change from their views. After reading the Union Party Platform, even thought I disagreed on a few small details, I agreed with most of it.  These are the topic I agree with :

Winning the War for Democracy
Sanctions and Trade
Terrorism
National Defense
Taxes, Spending, and a Balanced Budget
Welfare and Job Training
Education
Affirmative Action
Health Care
*Regions and the Federal Government*
Environment
Capital Punishment
Judicial Reform

The one with the * around it, was the one that sway me to join the Union Party.

Take the time and read the Platform on this webstie http://union.idpt.com/
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« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2004, 04:38:39 PM »
Interesting party. I won't join, because I think that if you want to change a party, you work within it to change it, you don't leave it.
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« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2004, 05:21:14 PM »
Way to join the UAC clone.
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Josh/Devilman88
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« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2004, 05:27:16 PM »

The UAC has moved more left for my taste.
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« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2004, 05:29:02 PM »

You are buying Don's propaganda.  The UAC has actually moved right since it's inception.
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« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2004, 05:30:15 PM »
I maybe.. If you can prove it then I will believe it. But the way I see the UAC it has. You may be right.
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« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2004, 05:30:44 PM »

Your user name reminds me of cookies and makes me hungry.
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« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2004, 05:34:05 PM »
Quote from: AFCJ KEmperor on November 10, 2004, 05:29:02 PM

You are buying Don's propaganda. The UAC has actually moved right since it's inception.

Yes, which is why I left Sad
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« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2004, 05:34:37 PM »


This is a snapshot of the main UAC members a few months ago.  Of these, Ilikeverin, Beet, and Bullmoose have left, and you could probably argue that Gustaf has left too because he's been pretty inactive lately.  This moves the party slightly to the right and slightly further authoritarian.

Hence, we have most certainly NOT moved right.
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« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2004, 05:36:40 PM »
Quote from: AFCJ KEmperor on November 10, 2004, 05:29:02 PM
You are buying Don's propaganda.  The UAC has actually moved right since it's inception.

Isn't that more to do with the fact that the UAC started off reasonably left of centre anyway - then took a large lurch to the right with the introduction of the nomadic GOP support, which caused the centre leftists like myself and ILV to leave, putting it firmly in the right. With the revival of the GOP its no surprise that their nomadic supporters return from whence they came, moving the party back to the left. Just not quite to where they began.
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« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2004, 05:37:51 PM »
Quote from: Peter Bell on November 10, 2004, 05:36:40 PM
Quote from: AFCJ KEmperor on November 10, 2004, 05:29:02 PM
You are buying Don's propaganda.  The UAC has actually moved right since it's inception.

Isn't that more to do with the fact that the UAC started off reasonably left of centre anyway - then took a large lurch to the right with the introduction of the nomadic GOP support, which caused the centre leftists like myself and ILV to leave, putting it firmly in the right. With the revival of the GOP its no surprise that their nomadic supporters return from whence they came, moving the party back to the left. Just not quite to where they began.

You are correct.
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« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2004, 05:44:38 PM »
« Edited: November 10, 2004, 05:47:29 PM by Amos »
this is where I am today.....

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -4.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 1.18
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« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2004, 05:48:30 PM »
Quote from: Amos on November 10, 2004, 05:44:38 PM
this is where I am today.....



Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -4.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 1.18
Holy Crap. On economics you are more to the left than MAS while on the Libertarian scale you  are actually in the Slightly Authoritarian part of the board. You are no where near Don you actually have more in common with Akno and the Democrats than with either the UAC or the Union Party.
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« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2004, 05:51:19 PM »
Quote from: ColinW on November 10, 2004, 05:48:30 PM
Quote from: Amos on November 10, 2004, 05:44:38 PM
this is where I am today.....



Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -4.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 1.18
Holy Crap. On economics you are more to the left than MAS while on the Libertarian scale you  are actually in the Slightly Authoritarian part of the board. You are no where near Don you actually have more in common with Akno and the Democrats than with either the UAC or the Union Party.

Like many have said before that Test SUCKS... I am a Christian Democrat... meaning.. left on economy and right on social views
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« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2004, 05:54:59 PM »
Quote from: Amos on November 10, 2004, 05:51:19 PM
Quote from: ColinW on November 10, 2004, 05:48:30 PM
Quote from: Amos on November 10, 2004, 05:44:38 PM
this is where I am today.....



Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -4.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 1.18
Holy Crap. On economics you are more to the left than MAS while on the Libertarian scale you  are actually in the Slightly Authoritarian part of the board. You are no where near Don you actually have more in common with Akno and the Democrats than with either the UAC or the Union Party.

Like many have said before that Test SUCKS... I am a Christian Democrat... meaning.. left on economy and right on social views

Than that makes you the total opposite of what Don's Union Party stands for. It stands for Moderate Libertarianism and Center-Right Economic Policies. Christian Democrat? Sounds more like a populist to me in that case you fit more with the UL.
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« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2004, 05:55:53 PM »
Quote from: Amos on November 10, 2004, 05:51:19 PM
Quote from: ColinW on November 10, 2004, 05:48:30 PM
Quote from: Amos on November 10, 2004, 05:44:38 PM
this is where I am today.....



Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -4.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 1.18
Holy Crap. On economics you are more to the left than MAS while on the Libertarian scale you  are actually in the Slightly Authoritarian part of the board. You are no where near Don you actually have more in common with Akno and the Democrats than with either the UAC or the Union Party.

Like many have said before that Test SUCKS... I am a Christian Democrat... meaning.. left on economy and right on social views

Nation is also a Christian Democrat. So UAC is for you Smiley
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« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2004, 05:58:36 PM »
Quote from: ColinW on November 10, 2004, 05:54:59 PM
Quote from: Amos on November 10, 2004, 05:51:19 PM
Quote from: ColinW on November 10, 2004, 05:48:30 PM
Quote from: Amos on November 10, 2004, 05:44:38 PM
this is where I am today.....



Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -4.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 1.18
Holy Crap. On economics you are more to the left than MAS while on the Libertarian scale you  are actually in the Slightly Authoritarian part of the board. You are no where near Don you actually have more in common with Akno and the Democrats than with either the UAC or the Union Party.

Like many have said before that Test SUCKS... I am a Christian Democrat... meaning.. left on economy and right on social views

Than that makes you the total opposite of what Don's Union Party stands for. It stands for Moderate Libertarianism and Center-Right Economic Policies. Christian Democrat? Sounds more like a populist to me in that case you fit more with the UL.

NO.. I agree with over 3/4 of don's Platform. Just the same as the UAC 's and Republican's platform. UL is left on social views and left on ecomony... how do I fit into that?
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« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2004, 06:00:49 PM »
I think Josh (Amos) just prefers the Union because it is run by a fellow Southerner.
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« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2004, 06:02:06 PM »
My views are VERY weird... I have lost of right economy view but more left economy views. I would be a Theodore Roosevelt if I lived back then.
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« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2004, 06:02:54 PM »
Quote from: SCJ King on November 10, 2004, 06:00:49 PM
I think Josh (Amos) just prefers the Union because it is run by a fellow Southerner.
Not really... I was going to join the UAC before I read Don's Platform.
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« Reply #20 on: November 10, 2004, 06:05:49 PM »
Are we too far right?
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« Reply #21 on: November 10, 2004, 06:09:26 PM »
Quote from: Ilikeverin re-for re-Governor on November 10, 2004, 05:34:05 PM
Quote from: AFCJ KEmperor on November 10, 2004, 05:29:02 PM

You are buying Don's propaganda. The UAC has actually moved right since it's inception.

Yes, which is why I left Sad
Indeed.
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« Reply #22 on: November 10, 2004, 06:16:10 PM »

no you are too left on some views of mine.
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« Reply #23 on: November 10, 2004, 06:17:28 PM »

Like what? Smiley
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« Reply #24 on: November 10, 2004, 06:21:10 PM »

Off the top of my head I can't remeber...  But if you would kindly give me a link to the UAC then I would tell you which ones.
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