Free Time Makes Happy Act (Failed)

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Aye

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

The amendment has passed.


I will begin a vote on Badger's amendment later tonight.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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The above Amendment, proposed by Senator Badger, is now at vote, Senators please vote AYE, NAY, or Abstain

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Aye



And I would like to propose an amendment before this bill goes to a final vote, just fyi.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

We are going back to regular debate after this not a final vote.


Aye

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Aye

[bgwah]

aye

[Badger]

I've stated my objections to this legislation. Each and every business in this country is unique. Each has it's own circumstances and its own needs in order to be successful, for the good of its employees as much as for anyone else. Forcing every business in Atlasia to adopt some one-size-fits-all mandatory vacation scheme is not a good idea. The loss of productivity that companies would have to absorb could result in many employees getting a longer vacation then they bargained for- a permanent one. All of the workers will be on full-time vacation if the company they work for goes out of business. Alternatively, companies may attempt to compensate for the losses by overworking their employees when they're there.

I do not like the idea of trying to shoehorn-in some artificial and arbitrary generic standard upon all businesses, failing to take into account the unique situation and conditions each one finds itself in.


With that said, I could support this sort of legislation if it the punitive fine system were to be replaced with an incentive-based approach.

Kudos, Senator. That is one of the more well-reasoned, detailed and--uncoincidentally--compelling arguments I recall you giving. Seriously. I strongly encourage you to follow this tack in the future as it advances your arguments much more effectively (which, come to think of it, may not be a good thing)

While not quite enough to persuade me from voting no at this time, I do see your point about every business's needs being unique. But is that enough to have no uniform regulation of industry? IMHO, no. For that reason I still--currently, tenatively--support this bill in the version its heading via the amendment process.

Your idea about making this incentive based (via tax credits) is interesting. My biggest concern would be the amount of additional debt this would incur. Such a system would shift the costs for this bill from businesses to the taxpayers who would see some combination of taxes, service cuts and/or debt increased in order to compensate for lost revenue. Still, I'd be interested in seeing any reasonable amendment proposing this.

Come to think of it, why choose? Why not include both the fines AND the incentive of tax breaks? IMHO, this combination of carrots and sticks may work best.

[Badger]

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Offered by Senator Bacon King here

Senators a vote is now open on the above amendment, please vote AYE, NAY or Abstain. As soon as it is finished, we shall move on to Badgers. So don't vote against this because of something that Badger's fixes. Vote for both.

Aye, ftr

[Badger]

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The above Amendment, proposed by Senator Badger, is now at vote, Senators please vote AYE, NAY, or Abstain

AYE.

[Hans-im-Glück]

AYE

[AndrewTX]

Aye

[Franzl]

Aye

[Bacon King]

aye

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

The amendment has passed, regular debate resumes.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Two days later and nothing?


Ah, USELESS

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This bill is now at final vote, Please vote AYE, NAY, or ABSTAIN


Aye

[Franzl]

Aye

[#CriminalizeSobriety]

Nay.

[Marokai Backbeat]

I do not support government managing private companies' labor policies. Hence I oppose this bill.

This, over and over again.

Listen, honestly the idea sounds like a great one.. but how are we going to ask some of the smaller companies, who are really just scraping by hoping that things will get better, to have pay for these vacations. I know it sounds harsh, but some employees have to take the cut of a paid vacation right now in order to keep their job.

Do you think we should abolish work hour laws, while we're at it?

[Badger]

AYE.

[AndrewTX]

I do not support government managing private companies' labor policies. Hence I oppose this bill.

This, over and over again.

Listen, honestly the idea sounds like a great one.. but how are we going to ask some of the smaller companies, who are really just scraping by hoping that things will get better, to have pay for these vacations. I know it sounds harsh, but some employees have to take the cut of a paid vacation right now in order to keep their job.

Do you think we should abolish work hour laws, while we're at it?

No, but I'm starting to think if maybe, just maybe, the reality train doesnt stop in town for everyone. I'm currently working at a job where they cant afford to pay for vacation time because of the economy. Making it mandatory can end up eliminating more jobs than saving them.

Anyways,

Abstain

[Hans-im-Glück]

AYE

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Nay

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Nay

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I change my vote to NAY.