What do you call the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia?
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Macedonia
 
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« on: August 29, 2010, 09:30:39 PM »

Macedonia.
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« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2010, 12:55:01 AM »

Macedonia. Republic of Macedonia if disambiguation is necessary.
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« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2010, 01:35:53 AM »

FYROM (Fie-rom, not F-Y-R-O-M) when talking to a Greek, Macedonia otherwise.

Neither often.
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« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2010, 01:53:20 AM »

Macedonia
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« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2010, 03:41:45 AM »

Mazedonien.

"Fyrom" is acceptable only if the former Ottoman Empire possessions in Greece are known as "Foepig".
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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2010, 04:38:10 AM »

Macedonia, of course.
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« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2010, 04:47:40 PM »
« Edited: October 04, 2010, 12:09:16 PM by December's tragic drive »

If I'd live there I'd kind of like "Skopje Republic" though. I like pretentious names like that. My favorite is Uruguay (of which the official name is "The Oriental Republic of Uruguay" meaning "The Republic to the east of the Uruguay River. Meaning officially the republic is basically nameless.)

But I'd never say FYROM unless I'd also be referring to Greece as Lewis put it. I wonder if anyone in Macedonia does refer to Greece that way.
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« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2010, 05:55:00 AM »

Macedonia.

I don't care about hurting Greece's feelings.
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« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2010, 06:33:58 AM »

I don't really call it anything.  Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2010, 07:48:55 AM »
« Edited: September 02, 2010, 07:51:15 AM by Јas »



Macedonia has work to do, but the tide is on its side.
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« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2010, 08:25:11 AM »

Greece lite
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« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2010, 10:12:54 AM »

Macedonia, or the Republic of Macedonia.
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« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2010, 11:02:31 AM »

Macedonia
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« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2010, 05:18:06 PM »

Macedonia, duh.
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« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2010, 06:40:30 PM »

Personally, if I were Greece, I'd be a lot more scared of a neighboring country named Fyrom (say it out loud a few times in a dramatic voice) than Macedonia.
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« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2010, 02:09:49 PM »

Македония
I like that: it insults both sides!

Mazedonien.

"Fyrom" is acceptable only if the former Ottoman Empire possessions in Greece are known as "Foepig".
Turkey doesn't have a province called Greece, claimed by the Republic of Greece, so your example is not very fitting.
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« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2010, 02:15:06 PM »

Turkey doesn't have a province called Greece, claimed by the Republic of Greece, so your example is not very fitting.
I was not aware that Greek Macedonia was claimed by the Republic of Macedonia. Cite? Huh

Belgium includes a province called Luxembourg, which is actually larger than the Grandduchy. And just as in this case, it's because they were one historical territory for a very long time. I am not aware of anybody being insecure and deranged enough to demand Luxembourg the country to change its name.
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« Reply #17 on: September 04, 2010, 02:38:10 PM »

Turkey doesn't have a province called Greece, claimed by the Republic of Greece, so your example is not very fitting.
I was not aware that Greek Macedonia was claimed by the Republic of Macedonia. Cite? Huh

That'd look terrible on a map.  Greek Thrace would sort of be suspended between Macedonia and European Turkey.
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« Reply #18 on: September 04, 2010, 02:46:16 PM »

AKA (but rarely nowadays) as Turkish Thrace.
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« Reply #19 on: September 04, 2010, 03:06:13 PM »

Turkey doesn't have a province called Greece, claimed by the Republic of Greece, so your example is not very fitting.
I was not aware that Greek Macedonia was claimed by the Republic of Macedonia. Cite? Huh
Not officially. In practice, however, their government more or less openly supports the idea that the whole region really belongs to the country. Here is a rather long list of examples addressing this attitude.

Turkey doesn't have a province called Greece, claimed by the Republic of Greece, so your example is not very fitting.
I was not aware that Greek Macedonia was claimed by the Republic of Macedonia. Cite? Huh

Belgium includes a province called Luxembourg, which is actually larger than the Grandduchy. And just as in this case, it's because they were one historical territory for a very long time. I am not aware of anybody being insecure and deranged enough to demand Luxembourg the country to change its name.
Is there anyone deranged enough to demand that Luxembourg be reunited with the Belgian province? Also the ration between Belgium and Luxembourg  is rather bigger than the one between Greece and Macedonia.
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« Reply #20 on: September 04, 2010, 03:33:20 PM »

Turkey doesn't have a province called Greece, claimed by the Republic of Greece, so your example is not very fitting.
I was not aware that Greek Macedonia was claimed by the Republic of Macedonia. Cite? Huh
Not officially. In practice, however, their government more or less openly supports the idea that the whole region really belongs to the country. Here is a rather long list of examples addressing this attitude.
That doesn't seem to be exactly what the article is saying... though I understand that declarations such as this -  "(1) The Republic cares for the status and rights of those persons belonging to the Macedonian people in neighboring countries (...) assists their cultural development and promotes links with them. In the exercise of this concern the Republic will not interfere in the sovereign rights of other states or in their internal affairs." - are contentious elsewhere in the Balkans too; and why that is so. (Although you'd need to be, quoting myself, insecure or deranged to read a landclaim into it.) And yeah, I learned something from this article, thanks.

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I'm not aware of any. Certainly noone of any influence whatsoever. Smiley
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« Reply #21 on: September 04, 2010, 03:44:21 PM »

Turkey doesn't have a province called Greece, claimed by the Republic of Greece, so your example is not very fitting.
I was not aware that Greek Macedonia was claimed by the Republic of Macedonia. Cite? Huh
Not officially. In practice, however, their government more or less openly supports the idea that the whole region really belongs to the country. Here is a rather long list of examples addressing this attitude.
That doesn't seem to be exactly what the article is saying... though I understand that declarations such as this -  "(1) The Republic cares for the status and rights of those persons belonging to the Macedonian people in neighboring countries (...) assists their cultural development and promotes links with them. In the exercise of this concern the Republic will not interfere in the sovereign rights of other states or in their internal affairs." - are contentious elsewhere in the Balkans too; and why that is so. (Although you'd need to be, quoting myself, insecure or deranged to read a landclaim into it.) And yeah, I learned something from this article, thanks.
The Macedonian government has a rather broad definition of who a Macedonian, which is not helping their case at all.
And when a government constantly harps on the "unjustly divided Macedonia" it also doesn't help their case much.
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« Reply #22 on: September 04, 2010, 04:14:05 PM »
« Edited: September 04, 2010, 04:34:42 PM by Bunwoah »

The same way I would call this:



Macédoine, as any other normal person.

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« Reply #23 on: September 04, 2010, 11:46:43 PM »

Macedonia, though I've really never thought about it.  I guess I still call it Yugoslavia on occasion, as I still mistakenly combine the Czech Republic and Slovakia "Czechoslovakia".
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« Reply #24 on: September 05, 2010, 12:49:13 PM »

It's kind of like if Missouri demanded Kansas change it name because of Kansas City.
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