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« Reply #75 on: August 20, 2010, 08:08:35 PM »

My $.02.  Prog rock is the greatest thing to ever happen to rock music and is truly one of the great art forms...

care to comment?  

What the derp is "progressive rock"?  Musical genres make absolutely no sense.  I mean, I have yet to figure out what "industrial" is, and I'm not going to even bother figuring out what the derp "house" is supposed to be.

Wikipedia actually has a pretty good definition of progressive rock. 

Yes, early Genesis, King Crimson, Pink Floyd, ELP, Jethro Tull, Rush, Dream Theater, Porcupine Tree, Coheed And Cambria and to an extent Muse are considered progressive rock bands.  It's all artsy, conceptual, long-winded, and often very difficult to play. 

Basically everything the early punks hated.... which makes it great, of course. 

Well now Punks at least have a sense of recognition for such great music.Cheesy

My $.02.  Prog rock is the greatest thing to ever happen to rock music and is truly one of the great art forms...

care to comment?  

What the derp is "progressive rock"?

Prog rock is pretty much "Look, I'm a smartass" rock.  Which makes it awesome.Cheesy

Ah, hence progressive.

On the subject of musical genres, I hate how "indie" is taken to be some sort of style of music.  Indie music is music that is produced either independently, or by independent record labels.

Well it's become a style of music because at the time most indie labels produced this poppy alternative-rock sound.  Thus, indie.

There's another derpy music genre name, alternative.  "Yeah, I listen to alternative."  Alternative to what?  That's the kind of thing one of those artsy people who make a big deal about being "non-conformist" would say they listen to.

It used to be non-conformist, now it is conformist.Tongue

Name still applies though, it pretty much means mainstream now (well alternative to the real mainstream, which is post-grunge, pop, etc.)

Now, what is the deal with this whole "post-" thing?
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« Reply #76 on: August 20, 2010, 10:51:50 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn8tBgI1BVQ

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« Reply #77 on: August 20, 2010, 11:06:01 PM »

     I'm sort of meh on progressive rock. Being able to play one's instrument well is very important to me, but I find a great deal of progressive rock to be too light to be really enjoyable. I'd usually rather have some meat & potatoes than a candy bar, if that makes sense. I recall enjoying Dark Side Of The Moon, though.... Tongue
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« Reply #78 on: August 20, 2010, 11:22:43 PM »
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My $.02.  Prog rock is the greatest thing to ever happen to rock music and is truly one of the great art forms...

care to comment?  

I don't like Prog other than King Crimson. Arguably, RIO music has been more progressive musically than most 'progressive' rock has. Bands like Henry Cow, Univers Zero, Blast, etc, have far more to offer than generic Genesis, or ELP crap.

My $.02.  Prog rock is the greatest thing to ever happen to rock music and is truly one of the great art forms...

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What the derp is "progressive rock"?  Musical genres make absolutely no sense.  I mean, I have yet to figure out what "industrial" is, and I'm not going to even bother figuring out what the derp "house" is supposed to be.

The name Industrial came from "Industrial Records", created by a confrontational electronic group, Throbbing Gristle. The name stuck to a wide variety of bands, and ultimately got taken over by lame dance music.

Prog rock is stuff like Pink Floyd. Long songs, lots of guitar solos etc. Tongue

Floyd wasn't prog. Smiley
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« Reply #79 on: August 21, 2010, 05:16:19 AM »


I like that song, it's a good electronic piece. I've been playing it for a while now Wink
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« Reply #80 on: August 21, 2010, 05:16:42 AM »

Anyone got any recommendations for good blues music?
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« Reply #81 on: August 21, 2010, 11:46:53 AM »

Anyone got any recommendations for good blues music?

Electric, or acoustic?

For acoustic blues, check out Skip James, Son House, Robert Johnson, and Mississippi John Hurt.
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« Reply #82 on: August 21, 2010, 11:52:37 AM »

Anyone got any recommendations for good blues music?

Electric, or acoustic?

For acoustic blues, check out Skip James, Son House, Robert Johnson, and Mississippi John Hurt.

The stuff I've liked so far has been acoustic.
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« Reply #83 on: August 21, 2010, 12:44:45 PM »

When I think of "Industrial" music, I think of songs that sound "industrial," i.e. sounds of clanging metal or industrial machinery, or just songs that bring to mind a dirty, industrial wasteland.  That music is awesome.  Most other so-called "Industrial" music, that fits the description of what Earth said, sucks.
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« Reply #84 on: August 21, 2010, 01:23:18 PM »

When I think of "Industrial" music, I think of songs that sound "industrial," i.e. sounds of clanging metal or industrial machinery, or just songs that bring to mind a dirty, industrial wasteland.  That music is awesome.  Most other so-called "Industrial" music, that fits the description of what Earth said, sucks.

So, like Throbbing Gristle?
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« Reply #85 on: August 21, 2010, 04:01:20 PM »

Now, what is the deal with this whole "post-" thing?

To differentiate itself from the original grunge fashion, post-grunge is the more mainstream version of that, with pop elements and usually predictable guitar hooks.


Very interesting electronic sound.  Good song overall.

     I'm sort of meh on progressive rock. Being able to play one's instrument well is very important to me, but I find a great deal of progressive rock to be too light to be really enjoyable. I'd usually rather have some meat & potatoes than a candy bar, if that makes sense. I recall enjoying Dark Side Of The Moon, though.... Tongue

Everyone likes Dark Side of the Moon.  If you don't you'll be branded a heretic for the rest of your life.Tongue

My $.02.  Prog rock is the greatest thing to ever happen to rock music and is truly one of the great art forms...

care to comment?  

I don't like Prog other than King Crimson. Arguably, RIO music has been more progressive musically than most 'progressive' rock has. Bands like Henry Cow, Univers Zero, Blast, etc, have far more to offer than generic Genesis, or ELP crap.

My $.02.  Prog rock is the greatest thing to ever happen to rock music and is truly one of the great art forms...

care to comment?  

What the derp is "progressive rock"?  Musical genres make absolutely no sense.  I mean, I have yet to figure out what "industrial" is, and I'm not going to even bother figuring out what the derp "house" is supposed to be.

The name Industrial came from "Industrial Records", created by a confrontational electronic group, Throbbing Gristle. The name stuck to a wide variety of bands, and ultimately got taken over by lame dance music.

Prog rock is stuff like Pink Floyd. Long songs, lots of guitar solos etc. Tongue

Floyd wasn't prog. Smiley

Industrial isn't always lame dance music though.  I wouldn't consider NIN dance music lol.  And as for Prog vs. avant-garde, there's a bit of a weird, blurred distinction between them.  Where Prog has a set structure, avant-garde usually disavows that.  Although I have always considered the two to be pretty much the same thing considering they have the same purpose.

And don't go into that hell hole with the whole "Floyd isn't Prog" thing.  That only mucks everything further and the distinctions get more blurred.  Yes, they were technically Space Rock.  But classically Space Rock has been associated with Prog.
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« Reply #86 on: August 21, 2010, 04:22:41 PM »

Everyone lumps stuff like Nine Inch Nails into metal though which really irritates me because I hate metal. I listen to stuff like Alice in Chains, Nine Inch Nails and Soundgarden and people claim it is metal. Ugh.
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« Reply #87 on: August 21, 2010, 04:33:06 PM »
« Edited: August 21, 2010, 04:35:40 PM by Northeast Representative Morgan »

When I think of "Industrial" music, I think of songs that sound "industrial," i.e. sounds of clanging metal or industrial machinery, or just songs that bring to mind a dirty, industrial wasteland.  That music is awesome.  Most other so-called "Industrial" music, that fits the description of what Earth said, sucks.

So, like Throbbing Gristle?

Haven't heard their music, but I'll check them out.

Is there a genre of music called communist metal, or something like that?  Because, I'd think that it would sound very industrial.  I mean, if f****try like National Socialist black metal exists...Roll Eyes
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« Reply #88 on: August 21, 2010, 04:33:55 PM »

Everyone lumps stuff like Nine Inch Nails into metal though which really irritates me because I hate metal. I listen to stuff like Alice in Chains, Nine Inch Nails and Soundgarden and people claim it is metal. Ugh.

Soundgarden is pretty much metal dude.Tongue
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« Reply #89 on: August 21, 2010, 04:57:00 PM »

Everyone lumps stuff like Nine Inch Nails into metal though which really irritates me because I hate metal. I listen to stuff like Alice in Chains, Nine Inch Nails and Soundgarden and people claim it is metal. Ugh.

Soundgarden is pretty much metal dude.Tongue

Maybe nowadays, but Superunknown era? Nah.
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« Reply #90 on: August 21, 2010, 05:03:44 PM »

Everyone lumps stuff like Nine Inch Nails into metal though which really irritates me because I hate metal. I listen to stuff like Alice in Chains, Nine Inch Nails and Soundgarden and people claim it is metal. Ugh.

Soundgarden is pretty much metal dude.Tongue

Maybe nowadays, but Superunknown era? Nah.

Yeah, even Superunknown era.  The main reason they're considered grunge is because they were from Seattle in the late 80s.
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« Reply #91 on: August 21, 2010, 11:59:09 PM »

Industrial isn't always lame dance music though.  I wouldn't consider NIN dance music lol.

I wouldn't consider any of Trent Reznor's music industrial at all.

Soundgarden and people claim it is metal. Ugh.

Soundgarden's Ultramega OK, Louder Than Love pretty much sound like Black Sabbath revisited. Their most metal song, "4th Of July" is on Superunknown. Smiley
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« Reply #92 on: August 22, 2010, 03:24:59 AM »

When metal bands play live, do they usually wear the shirts of bands that sound the exact opposite of their own band?

That is the new trend it seems. If you're in a pop punk band, you wear a grindcore band's shirt. If you're in a metalcore band, you wear a Smiths or some 90s indie rock band's shirt. If you're in a soft and poppy indie rock band, you wear the shirt of some hardcore emo band. If you're in a such an emo band, you wear a pop punk band's shirt.
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« Reply #93 on: August 22, 2010, 03:28:03 AM »

Industrial isn't always lame dance music though.  I wouldn't consider NIN dance music lol.

I wouldn't consider any of Trent Reznor's music industrial at all.

Debatable, I know alot of rivetheads hate on NIN and Rammstein for being popular Tongue Closest that Nine Inch Nails comes to industrial is the Year Zero album in my opinion.
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« Reply #94 on: August 22, 2010, 11:00:34 AM »

When metal bands play live, do they usually wear the shirts of bands that sound the exact opposite of their own band?

That is the new trend it seems. If you're in a pop punk band, you wear a grindcore band's shirt. If you're in a metalcore band, you wear a Smiths or some 90s indie rock band's shirt. If you're in a soft and poppy indie rock band, you wear the shirt of some hardcore emo band. If you're in a such an emo band, you wear a pop punk band's shirt.

It's always seemed like that, not just with metal acts. My friend went to a Jack's Mannequin show and the guitarist was wearing a Lamb of God shirt. I thought that was quite hilarious.
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« Reply #95 on: August 22, 2010, 12:39:54 PM »

I'm not talking about metal bands though, I'm asking if they do it too.
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« Reply #96 on: August 22, 2010, 11:02:23 PM »

Industrial isn't always lame dance music though.  I wouldn't consider NIN dance music lol.

I wouldn't consider any of Trent Reznor's music industrial at all.


Debatable of course.  They are generally associated with industrial though.

I'm not talking about metal bands though, I'm asking if they do it too.

All bands do.Tongue
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« Reply #97 on: August 24, 2010, 03:20:44 PM »

If NIN aren't industrial, what are they?
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« Reply #98 on: August 24, 2010, 11:21:17 PM »


Rock or Electronic.

Electronic rock?

Which is essentially Industrial. Squinting ....in a sense.



For the record, Half Light II (No Celebration) by Arcade Fire is my favorite song at the moment. The Suburbs is really hit and miss, the first half of the album kinda drags but they have really awesome and random songs in the 2nd half.
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« Reply #99 on: August 29, 2010, 12:16:35 PM »

Ftr, Skinny Puppy are better than Nine Inch Nails.
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