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« Reply #25 on: August 01, 2010, 06:44:23 AM »

So far we have gotton Rasmussen polls on this race mainly and Survey USA has shown much more favorable poll numbers in the past towards the Dems. Quinn already said the tax increase would fund educational purposes not for new programs, I think that message has yet to get out to the voters. But Cohen doesn't help being on the ticket. The last PPP and R2K poll had it 3 or 4 pts well within the margin of error.
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« Reply #26 on: August 01, 2010, 07:17:43 AM »

So far we have gotton Rasmussen polls on this race mainly and Survey USA has shown much more favorable poll numbers in the past towards the Dems. Quinn already said the tax increase would fund educational purposes not for new programs, I think that message has yet to get out to the voters. But Cohen doesn't help being on the ticket. The last PPP and R2K poll had it 3 or 4 pts well within the margin of error.

He says that the taxes would support education, but the tax legislation that he supports does not commit the proceeds to education. A version from two years ago did, but that was during Blago's years. There is a lot of mistrust in the state, and Quinn merely saying it will go to education is not as comforting in this cycle as it might be under other administrations.
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« Reply #27 on: August 01, 2010, 07:27:35 AM »

Okay Quinn wants to increase taxes for people earning more than 50K a year, Brady wants to cut taxes for the people making over that. That tax increase doesn't touch lower middle income earners and Brady wants to lower the minimum wage to where it is at the federal level just like Judy Baar Topinka.

The Blagojevich trial is taking place and Quinn has separated himself from Blagojejvich, once the verdict comes out, that mistrust will diminish and won't be used so much in the fall.
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« Reply #28 on: August 01, 2010, 06:49:53 PM »

Okay Quinn wants to increase taxes for people earning more than 50K a year, Brady wants to cut taxes for the people making over that. That tax increase doesn't touch lower middle income earners and Brady wants to lower the minimum wage to where it is at the federal level just like Judy Baar Topinka.

The Blagojevich trial is taking place and Quinn has separated himself from Blagojejvich, once the verdict comes out, that mistrust will diminish and won't be used so much in the fall.

Thanks for reassuring me that Brady is the right choice Smiley
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« Reply #29 on: August 01, 2010, 09:35:31 PM »
« Edited: August 01, 2010, 09:38:07 PM by Lunar »

Other than Michigan, I'd love to see Illinois elect a Republican governor. Their current gun laws desperately need to be changed. And Brady seems to be the only one who cares about passing a shall issue law for carrying concealed weapons. The fact of the matter is their crime will not decrease until such a law has been passed.

You're aware that there's this thing called a legislature, right?

And your statement seems severely flawed.  Crime will not decrease until concealed carry laws are passed?  NYC crime has gone down over the law decade without said laws passing.  Just because, in your view, crime is guaranteed to go down if concealed carry laws pass, doesn't make them the necessary catalyst for any sort of crime reduction?  Crime is a complex outcome based on hundreds of variables. 
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« Reply #30 on: August 01, 2010, 09:38:07 PM »

Other than Michigan, I'd love to see Illinois elect a Republican governor. Their current gun laws desperately need to be changed. And Brady seems to be the only one who cares about passing a shall issue law for carrying concealed weapons. The fact of the matter is their crime will not decrease until such a law has been passed.

You're aware that there's this thing called a legislature, right?

Yes, that will need to be changed as well. But seeing as how governor has the final say, it's necessary to first elect someone who's pro-gun.
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« Reply #31 on: August 01, 2010, 10:41:16 PM »

Crime is a complex outcome based on hundreds of variables. 

Only if you hate freedom. More guns = less crimes, always and forever.
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« Reply #32 on: August 01, 2010, 11:59:44 PM »

Crime is a complex outcome based on hundreds of variables. 

Only if you hate freedom. More guns = less crimes, always and forever.

Amen to that
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« Reply #33 on: August 02, 2010, 06:18:34 AM »

Crime is a complex outcome based on hundreds of variables. 

Only if you hate freedom. More guns = less crimes, always and forever.

Actually, his generalization was worse than that.  He said expanding gun ownership was the ONLY way to reduce crime.
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« Reply #34 on: August 02, 2010, 10:09:51 AM »

Crime is a complex outcome based on hundreds of variables. 

Only if you hate freedom. More guns = less crimes, always and forever.

Actually, his generalization was worse than that.  He said expanding gun ownership was the ONLY way to reduce crime.

Have you SEEN Chicago?
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« Reply #35 on: August 02, 2010, 10:44:41 AM »

Yes. 
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« Reply #36 on: August 02, 2010, 12:58:35 PM »

Gun control has more of an influence on crime than you think it does. There are many other factors but they are irrelevant. The fact of the matter is only you can protect yourself. No real criminal is afraid of law enforcement. What they are afraid of is you, another citizen, who could be carrying a potential life saving device.
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« Reply #37 on: August 02, 2010, 01:23:57 PM »

This is why Massachusetts has the worst crime rates in the country.
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« Reply #38 on: August 02, 2010, 03:34:56 PM »

This is why Massachusetts has the worst crime rates in the country.

And how many of those crimes could have been prevented if the victim had a loaded firearm on his/her person at the time of attack?
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« Reply #39 on: August 02, 2010, 06:42:01 PM »

You know, more crimes are prevented every year with the use of guns, than the total number of deaths per year due to firearms.
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« Reply #40 on: August 02, 2010, 06:46:52 PM »

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bill_Brady_(Illinois_politician)&oldid=375749550

 22:55, 27 July 2010 BradyforIllinois (talk | contribs) (8,359 bytes) (This page misrepresented Bill Brady, (R) Candidate for Governor. It has been changed to reflect the truth about Bill Brady by his campaign, Brady for Illinois.)

LOL. Epic fail on Brady's part.
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« Reply #41 on: August 02, 2010, 07:36:04 PM »
« Edited: August 02, 2010, 07:38:32 PM by You were once a gentleman »

This is pretty harsh: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bill_Brady_%28Illinois_politician%29&action=historysubmit&diff=375817013&oldid=375811555

Check out the revised article at the bottom. It reads like it's from his direct campaign site. He's now going to be vandalism-bait for a long long time.
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« Reply #42 on: August 02, 2010, 07:45:51 PM »

This is why Massachusetts has the worst crime rates in the country.

And how many of those crimes could have been prevented if the victim had a loaded firearm on his/her person at the time of attack?

I have no idea. I have to say I've never thought of our low violent crime rates as a sign we were doing something wrong, though, and that we should learn from states with much bigger problems. I guess I'm closed-minded that way.
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« Reply #43 on: August 02, 2010, 07:55:23 PM »

This is why Massachusetts has the worst crime rates in the country.

And how many of those crimes could have been prevented if the victim had a loaded firearm on his/her person at the time of attack?

I have no idea. I have to say I've never thought of our low violent crime rates as a sign we were doing something wrong, though, and that we should learn from states with much bigger problems. I guess I'm closed-minded that way.

You obviously are when the FBI and other respectable crime organizations have the numbers to prove it.
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« Reply #44 on: August 02, 2010, 09:07:13 PM »

You obviously are when the FBI and other respectable crime organizations have the numbers to prove it.

This wouldn't be John Lott's numbers, would it?
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« Reply #45 on: August 02, 2010, 09:25:27 PM »

This is why Massachusetts has the worst crime rates in the country.

And how many of those crimes could have been prevented if the victim had a loaded firearm on his/her person at the time of attack?

I have no idea. I have to say I've never thought of our low violent crime rates as a sign we were doing something wrong, though, and that we should learn from states with much bigger problems. I guess I'm closed-minded that way.

You obviously are when the FBI and other respectable crime organizations have the numbers to prove it.

Yeah, those numbers don't exist.
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« Reply #46 on: August 03, 2010, 01:37:50 PM »

This is why Massachusetts has the worst crime rates in the country.

And how many of those crimes could have been prevented if the victim had a loaded firearm on his/her person at the time of attack?

I have no idea. I have to say I've never thought of our low violent crime rates as a sign we were doing something wrong, though, and that we should learn from states with much bigger problems. I guess I'm closed-minded that way.

You obviously are when the FBI and other respectable crime organizations have the numbers to prove it.

Yeah, those numbers don't exist.

Even if solid data doesn't exist, the number of crimes prevented by the use of firearms is likely much higher than the number of deaths every year because of guns.

Banning them for the sole reason that they cause deaths is absurd in itself.  Using the same nanny logic, we should ban cars or swimming in the ocean.
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« Reply #47 on: August 03, 2010, 01:44:54 PM »

It sounds like you're making facts up just to justify your position on the issue.
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« Reply #48 on: August 03, 2010, 04:24:49 PM »

It sounds like you're making facts up just to justify your position on the issue.

I'm not.  It's a fact that guns can prevent crime.
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« Reply #49 on: August 03, 2010, 04:27:03 PM »

It sounds like you're making facts up just to justify your position on the issue.

I'm not.  It's a fact that guns can prevent crime.

Not to mention they keep us protected from the government. Anyone wanna experience 1984? I sure don't.
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