The futur of the dem party: Edwards or Hillary?
J-Mann:
Kerry won't be back. Neither will Gore. He gave a speech a couple of weeks ago and sweat so bad that it looked like he was having a heart attack. Another four years of Bush may put that poor guy in the grave.
DaleC76:
Quote from: Umengus on November 03, 2004, 05:07:54 AM
ok Bush won and the defeat of Kerry is, for me, the defeat of the "liberals" ideas. Hence, I think (and I always thought) that the futur of the dem party must be John Edwards. In others words, the future must be the working & conservative class (WV, Ohio,...) rather than the rich people who give New York but not the congress, the senate and the white house.
In all of case, a change in the direction of this party must be done
What do you think?
Some guy on ABC, I don't know if he was a party official or a reporter, said the Democrats did so poorly because they weren't liberal enough (which I think is a big mistake). George Stephanopoulis predicted a civil war inside the party between moderates and liberals.
opebo:
Hillary is preferable to Edwards. What I fear is the Democrats may abandon their relatively enlightened positions on social issues in reaction to this defeat, and there will be no resistance to further loss of individual rights. Could definitely happen, and more easily with Edwards than Hillary.
Umengus:
Quote from: DaleC76 on November 03, 2004, 05:50:11 AM
Quote from: Umengus on November 03, 2004, 05:07:54 AM
ok Bush won and the defeat of Kerry is, for me, the defeat of the "liberals" ideas. Hence, I think (and I always thought) that the futur of the dem party must be John Edwards. In others words, the future must be the working & conservative class (WV, Ohio,...) rather than the rich people who give New York but not the congress, the senate and the white house.
In all of case, a change in the direction of this party must be done
What do you think?
Some guy on ABC, I don't know if he was a party official or a reporter, said the Democrats did so poorly because they weren't liberal enough (which I think is a big mistake). George Stephanopoulis predicted a civil war inside the party between moderates and liberals.
Kerry was not enough liberal? lol but the problem is maybe "what's a liberal?". The problem in the dem party is that moderates and liberals have the same opinion about economy. The difference between them is values.
But I think that Hillary Clinton will seem as the party saver and hence, I'm not sure that there will be a civil war between moderates and liberals (behalve of course if John Edwards wants the post but a ticket Edwards-Clinton seems a good consensus).
Huckleberry Finn:
Quote from: hughento on November 03, 2004, 05:20:30 AM
Quote from: Lewis Trondheim on November 03, 2004, 05:16:32 AM
I hereby endorse Al Gore for Presidential Candidate 2008.
I hereby Endorse Kerry/Gore '08. He's a good VP ;)
Seriously though, anyone think Kerry'll be back?
No he won't.
Edwards problem is that he hasn't an any public position. Lawyer Edwards to the White House! Doesn't make sense.
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