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Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook
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« on: June 27, 2010, 04:48:40 PM »

Simple Question.

I say 4:
1824
1876
1960
2000
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« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2010, 04:58:27 PM »

1824
1876
1888
2000
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« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2010, 04:58:49 PM »

1 - 1876.
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« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2010, 05:11:50 PM »

whacko conspiracy theorists
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« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2010, 06:05:47 PM »

I believe: 1824, 1876, 1888, 2000
Maybe: 1960 and 2004
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« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2010, 06:08:23 PM »

What exactly is the issue with 1888? I know more people voted for Cleveland, but what exactly happened?
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« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2010, 06:10:24 PM »

What exactly is the issue with 1888? I know more people voted for Cleveland, but what exactly happened?

Nobody knows exactly. There was such massive election fraud every cycle back then that it's hard to say.
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« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2010, 01:27:10 PM »
« Edited: June 28, 2010, 01:55:28 PM by Henry "Scoop" Jackson »

Let's see here:

1884, 1916, possibly 2000, maybe 1960 but I still think it's unlikely

1824-No candidate won a majority of EVs. The House had every right to decide the winner and I don't see how it's illegal for Clay to make a deal with Adams.
1876-Many blacks were illegally disenfrachised throughout the South. Without that Hayes's victory margin would have been larger.
1888-Ditto 1876
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« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2010, 01:39:05 PM »

1960, 2008, and perhaps 1968 if you consider Nixon making a secret deal with the Vietnamese to not make the peace deal in the final days of the 1968 campaign.

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« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2010, 01:50:43 PM »

Where's the "0" option?
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« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2010, 01:53:15 PM »


There isn't one, because 0 isn't the correct answer.
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« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2010, 01:54:14 PM »

1960, 2008, and perhaps 1968 if you consider Nixon making a secret deal with the Vietnamese to not make the peace deal in the final days of the 1968 campaign.

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Yes, only hacks believe that 2008 was stolen.

Same goes for 2004.
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« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2010, 01:59:39 PM »


*facepalm*

Why then do we have 10 other options, when at least 9 of them are also incorrect?

Anyway, the point isn't that 0 elections were stolen, but it should be included as an option, because many people, I'm certain, do believe that all of the elections were fair.
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« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2010, 02:01:37 PM »


*facepalm*

Why then do we have 10 other options, when at least 9 of them are also incorrect?

Anyway, the point isn't that 0 elections were stolen, but it should be included as an option, because many people, I'm certain, do believe that all of the elections were fair.

Even if you ignore 2000 and 1960, 1884 and 1916 were not fair and were thus rigged.
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« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2010, 02:09:01 PM »


*facepalm*

Why then do we have 10 other options, when at least 9 of them are also incorrect?

Anyway, the point isn't that 0 elections were stolen, but it should be included as an option, because many people, I'm certain, do believe that all of the elections were fair.

Even if you ignore 2000 and 1960, 1884 and 1916 were not fair and were thus rigged.

So? That's no reason to exclude 0 as an option, or any of the others for that matter.

And that reminds me, if you're right, then 1 isn't correct either. Why, then, does it appear on the list?
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« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2010, 02:15:53 PM »

Define 'stolen.'
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« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2010, 05:41:01 PM »

I suppose the way I think about it is that stealing = illegal, and all of these elections were legally won; whether or not you agree with the outcome. So, I suppose the answer is 0...
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« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2010, 01:18:58 AM »

1876 and 2000. We were better off with a President Hayes, but definitely worse off with a (2nd) President Bush.

1824 had some serious issues, but wasn't quite stolen. 1800 ended up not being stolen. It would have been easy for some shenanigans to have made the difference in some other close ones such as 1888 and 1916.
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« Reply #18 on: June 29, 2010, 01:57:46 AM »

1876, 1888, 2000, 2004
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« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2010, 12:25:51 PM »

1876 and 2000.

We need to drop the myth of 1960. For the umpteenth time, even if we assume that the Cook County machine "stole" at least 110,000 votes (or more accurately, 110k more votes than any downstate GOP machines may've "stolen" for Nixon) to flip Illinois, Kennedy still would've won a majority in the Electoral College without Illinois.
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« Reply #20 on: June 29, 2010, 12:31:41 PM »

1876 and 2000.

We need to drop the myth of 1960. For the umpteenth time, even if we assume that the Cook County machine "stole" at least 110,000 votes (or more accurately, 110k more votes than any downstate GOP machines may've "stolen" for Nixon) to flip Illinois, Kennedy still would've won a majority in the Electoral College without Illinois.

Not you, too? 
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« Reply #21 on: June 29, 2010, 12:33:06 PM »

1876 and 2000.

We need to drop the myth of 1960. For the umpteenth time, even if we assume that the Cook County machine "stole" at least 110,000 votes (or more accurately, 110k more votes than any downstate GOP machines may've "stolen" for Nixon) to flip Illinois, Kennedy still would've won a majority in the Electoral College without Illinois.

Many conservatives claim that TX was also stolen since there were funky numbers in some counties along the Mexican border, and they claim it was because LBJ's political machine allowed many illegals to vote for JFK, thus giving him the state. Nixon would have won if IL and TX flipped.
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« Reply #22 on: June 29, 2010, 02:09:17 PM »

1876 and 2000.

We need to drop the myth of 1960. For the umpteenth time, even if we assume that the Cook County machine "stole" at least 110,000 votes (or more accurately, 110k more votes than any downstate GOP machines may've "stolen" for Nixon) to flip Illinois, Kennedy still would've won a majority in the Electoral College without Illinois.

Not you, too? 

Indeed. Very disappointing, I didn't expect him to be that much of a hack....
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« Reply #23 on: June 29, 2010, 03:24:36 PM »

1876 and 2000.

We need to drop the myth of 1960. For the umpteenth time, even if we assume that the Cook County machine "stole" at least 110,000 votes (or more accurately, 110k more votes than any downstate GOP machines may've "stolen" for Nixon) to flip Illinois, Kennedy still would've won a majority in the Electoral College without Illinois.

Not you, too? 

Indeed. Very disappointing, I didn't expect him to be that much of a hack....

Well, I don't view Badger as a hack at all, TC.  He has to have some reason to say it, which I'd love to hear.  I'm sure he just differs with the Supreme Court ruling, but we'll see.
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« Reply #24 on: June 29, 2010, 11:28:42 PM »

ZERO

One way or another, democracy always prevailed.
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