Dean vs. Bush Jr. 2000

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An unknown governor from Vermont coming out of left field. Here it is.

Bush 480
Dean  58

Bush 56%
Dean 42%

Clitnon wasn't very known in 1992. I seriously doubt Dean would have been unless unknown than Clinton in 2000 if he had managed to win his party's nomination. What makes you think he would have done that badly?

Dean is a far-left wacko, didn't you get the memo?

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An unknown governor from Vermont coming out of left field. Here it is.

Bush 480
Dean  58

Bush 56%
Dean 42%

Clitnon wasn't very known in 1992. I seriously doubt Dean would have been unless unknown than Clinton in 2000 if he had managed to win his party's nomination. What makes you think he would have done that badly?

Dean is a far-left wacko, didn't you get the memo?

Vermont is not a good base to have and he would be portrayed as extreme. People would have seen him that way too.

Why not? Vermont is among the safest, best educated, and cleanest states in the nation, and it had a balanced budget every year under Dean's governorship. I guess instead we should elect Haley Barbour and use Mississippi as a model for the nation?

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

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An unknown governor from Vermont coming out of left field. Here it is.

Bush 480
Dean  58

Bush 56%
Dean 42%

Clitnon wasn't very known in 1992. I seriously doubt Dean would have been unless unknown than Clinton in 2000 if he had managed to win his party's nomination. What makes you think he would have done that badly?

Dean is a far-left wacko, didn't you get the memo?

Vermont is not a good base to have and he would be portrayed as extreme. People would have seen him that way too.

Why not? Vermont is among the safest, best educated, and cleanest states in the nation, and it had a balanced budget every year under Dean's governorship. I guess instead we should elect Haley Barbour and use Mississippi as a model for the nation?

Vermont wasn't that liberal in 2000. Gore only won 51% of the vote there. And if the uncharismatic John Kerry almost beat Bush in 2004 despite being from Massachusetts (which is even more liberal than Vermont) after the GOP swift-boated him and attacked him as a flip-flopper, then surely the charismatic Howard Dean would have defeated Bush in 2000. Dean was a fiscal conservative, for gun rights, and much more charismatic than Gore. If Gore almost beat Bush in 2000, surely Dean would have beat Bush that same year. I remember you said before that in your opinion, Gore lost a lot of votes due to his support of gun control and his lack of charisma. Well, Dean wouldn't have had those problems.

What does this have to do with my post you quoted?

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An unknown governor from Vermont coming out of left field. Here it is.

Bush 480
Dean  58

Bush 56%
Dean 42%

Clitnon wasn't very known in 1992. I seriously doubt Dean would have been unless unknown than Clinton in 2000 if he had managed to win his party's nomination. What makes you think he would have done that badly?

Dean is a far-left wacko, didn't you get the memo?

Vermont is not a good base to have and he would be portrayed as extreme. People would have seen him that way too.

Why not? Vermont is among the safest, best educated, and cleanest states in the nation, and it had a balanced budget every year under Dean's governorship. I guess instead we should elect Haley Barbour and use Mississippi as a model for the nation?

Vermont wasn't that liberal in 2000. Gore only won 51% of the vote there. And if the uncharismatic John Kerry almost beat Bush in 2004 despite being from Massachusetts (which is even more liberal than Vermont) after the GOP swift-boated him and attacked him as a flip-flopper, then surely the charismatic Howard Dean would have defeated Bush in 2000. Dean was a fiscal conservative, for gun rights, and much more charismatic than Gore. If Gore almost beat Bush in 2000, surely Dean would have beat Bush that same year. I remember you said before that in your opinion, Gore lost a lot of votes due to his support of gun control and his lack of charisma. Well, Dean wouldn't have had those problems.

Candidates like Dean are exposed eventually somewhere down the line. He might have done as well as McGovern because that's automatically what comes to any serious voter's mind when they think of Howard Dean. Gun rights would not have overcome abortion in TN, WV, and AR. Name one president who has come from a state worth 3 electoral votes. And Vermont would have gone 58-40 for Gore without Ralph Nader.

McGovern doesn't come to my mind when I think of Howard Dean. I would greatly prefer George McGovern to Howard Dean.


And TN, WV, and AR voted for pro-abortion Democrat Bill Clinton.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

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An unknown governor from Vermont coming out of left field. Here it is.

Bush 480
Dean  58

Bush 56%
Dean 42%

Clitnon wasn't very known in 1992. I seriously doubt Dean would have been unless unknown than Clinton in 2000 if he had managed to win his party's nomination. What makes you think he would have done that badly?

Dean is a far-left wacko, didn't you get the memo?

Vermont is not a good base to have and he would be portrayed as extreme. People would have seen him that way too.

Why not? Vermont is among the safest, best educated, and cleanest states in the nation, and it had a balanced budget every year under Dean's governorship. I guess instead we should elect Haley Barbour and use Mississippi as a model for the nation?

Vermont wasn't that liberal in 2000. Gore only won 51% of the vote there. And if the uncharismatic John Kerry almost beat Bush in 2004 despite being from Massachusetts (which is even more liberal than Vermont) after the GOP swift-boated him and attacked him as a flip-flopper, then surely the charismatic Howard Dean would have defeated Bush in 2000. Dean was a fiscal conservative, for gun rights, and much more charismatic than Gore. If Gore almost beat Bush in 2000, surely Dean would have beat Bush that same year. I remember you said before that in your opinion, Gore lost a lot of votes due to his support of gun control and his lack of charisma. Well, Dean wouldn't have had those problems.

Candidates like Dean are exposed eventually somewhere down the line. He might have done as well as McGovern because that's automatically what comes to any serious voter's mind when they think of Howard Dean. Gun rights would not have overcome abortion in TN, WV, and AR. Name one president who has come from a state worth 3 electoral votes. And Vermont would have gone 58-40 for Gore without Ralph Nader.

McGovern doesn't come to my mind when I think of Howard Dean. I would greatly prefer George McGovern to Howard Dean.


And TN, WV, and AR voted for pro-abortion Democrat Bill Clinton.

Yes and Clinton was from Arkansas with a running mate from Tennessee. West Virginia until 2000 was like Massachusetts or Rhode Island for the democrats.

So obviously abortion isn't that big an issue in those states as to prevent them from voting Democratic.

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An unknown governor from Vermont coming out of left field. Here it is.

Bush 480
Dean  58

Bush 56%
Dean 42%

Clitnon wasn't very known in 1992. I seriously doubt Dean would have been unless unknown than Clinton in 2000 if he had managed to win his party's nomination. What makes you think he would have done that badly?

Dean is a far-left wacko, didn't you get the memo?

Vermont is not a good base to have and he would be portrayed as extreme. People would have seen him that way too.

Why not? Vermont is among the safest, best educated, and cleanest states in the nation, and it had a balanced budget every year under Dean's governorship. I guess instead we should elect Haley Barbour and use Mississippi as a model for the nation?

Vermont wasn't that liberal in 2000. Gore only won 51% of the vote there. And if the uncharismatic John Kerry almost beat Bush in 2004 despite being from Massachusetts (which is even more liberal than Vermont) after the GOP swift-boated him and attacked him as a flip-flopper, then surely the charismatic Howard Dean would have defeated Bush in 2000. Dean was a fiscal conservative, for gun rights, and much more charismatic than Gore. If Gore almost beat Bush in 2000, surely Dean would have beat Bush that same year. I remember you said before that in your opinion, Gore lost a lot of votes due to his support of gun control and his lack of charisma. Well, Dean wouldn't have had those problems.

Candidates like Dean are exposed eventually somewhere down the line. He might have done as well as McGovern because that's automatically what comes to any serious voter's mind when they think of Howard Dean. Gun rights would not have overcome abortion in TN, WV, and AR. Name one president who has come from a state worth 3 electoral votes. And Vermont would have gone 58-40 for Gore without Ralph Nader.

First of all, not all Nader voters would have voted for Gore. Many voted for Nader in the first place because they thought Gore and Bush were too similar. Many Nader voters would have stayed home and some would have even voted for Bush if Nader was not on the ballot. As Libertas said, pro-abortion Democrats Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton won AR, TN, and WV (and several other Southern states). And I didn't have Dean winning those states on my map. What does it matter if Dean's home state has 3 electoral votes or not? I don't think many voters decide whether or not to vote for someone by looking at how many EVs that candidate's home state has. And Calvin Coolidge was born in VT, which has three Electoral votes. Finally, Dean and McGovern have very little in common other than the fact that they are both Democrats.

Correct for the most part, though Jimmy Carter wasn't quite "pro-abortion" in the same way that Bill Clinton was.