1968: Ted Kennedy v. Nelson Rockefeller v. George Wallace
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« on: June 24, 2010, 07:40:36 PM »
What if Robert Kennedy's delegates refuse to give up after his death, and start a draft Teddy movement at the Democratic Convention? After several ballots, McCarthy drops out and endorses Kennedy. As part of the deal, McCarthy gets to choose the VP, and he selects Senator George McGovern of South Dakota.

At the Republican Convention, Nelson Rockefeller is able to upset Richard Nixon and wins the nomination. Rocky selects Hawaii Senator Hiram Fong as his running mate.

George Wallace still runs with Curtis LeMay.

How would this elections play out? Kennedy/McGovern v. Rockefeller/Fong v. Wallace/Lemay
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« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2010, 07:50:05 PM »


It's highly unlikely that McCarthy would have ever endorsed anyone named Kennedy, but...






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« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2010, 08:48:46 PM »
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Ted Kennedy was not electable. At any point for that matter.
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« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2010, 01:25:46 AM »


Nixon wins 279-182-77.
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« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2010, 05:24:49 PM »


Rockefeller wins easily against both Wallace and Kennedy. 
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« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2010, 05:35:49 PM »

It's Rockefeller , not Nixon
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« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2010, 05:42:05 PM »
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« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2010, 05:42:18 PM »
The DNC proposal is unlikely at best. McCarthy and the Kennedy-clan basically hated each others guts.

In the general I would imagine the election going to the house.
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« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2010, 07:48:41 PM »
Maine only went for Humphrey due to Muskie. If Muskie wasn't on the ticket Maine goes GOP.
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« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2010, 09:52:15 PM »
Quote from: Robespierre's Jaw on June 25, 2010, 07:48:41 PM
Maine only went for Humphrey due to Muskie. If Muskie wasn't on the ticket Maine goes GOP.

Perhaps, but Maine wasn't quite as Republican as Vermont and New Hampshire were at that time. Carter came very close to winning it in 1976 (and even 1980) despite having no home state bonus.
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« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2010, 09:56:14 PM »
I now the DNC scenario isn't very likely, but please look over that part. Wink I'd just really like to see what you guys think about the general election. Wink
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« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2010, 10:03:11 PM »
Quote from: Barnes on June 25, 2010, 09:56:14 PM
I now the DNC scenario isn't very likely, but please look over that part. Wink I'd just really like to see what you guys think about the general election. Wink

Well McCarthy's contempt for the Kennedys was quite unrelenting, so it is certainly a stretch. McCarthy and McGovern weren't on the best of terms either after the latter jumped into the race, though I'm not sure if that occurred in your timeline.
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« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2010, 10:05:31 PM »


GOP-222
Dem-200
Ind.-116

And it's off to the House we go.
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« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2010, 10:05:55 AM »
Quote from: Thomas D on June 25, 2010, 10:05:31 PM


GOP-222
Dem-200
Ind.-116

And it's off to the House we go.

This is pretty much what I would expect
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« Reply #14 on: June 27, 2010, 12:00:27 PM »
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« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2010, 11:30:20 PM »
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« Reply #16 on: July 01, 2010, 09:15:56 PM »
Rockefeller wins.
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« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2010, 10:12:21 PM »
Quote from: President Thomas E. Dewey on June 30, 2010, 11:30:20 PM
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« Reply #18 on: July 01, 2010, 10:32:13 PM »
Wallace seems to really overperform in some of these maps.

Rockefeller could probably hold on to TN/KY by tenuous margins, maybe even Texas.
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« Reply #19 on: July 02, 2010, 12:18:07 AM »
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I can't imagine 3 worse candidates running in the same year. My vote is for Wallace because I wouldn't be able to stand those types of Republicans. Ted Kennedy was not electable in any election year ever. I hesitated to give him Hawaii and West Virginia, but I think he'd break through.
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« Reply #20 on: July 02, 2010, 03:06:10 PM »
Quote from: Derek on July 02, 2010, 12:18:07 AM
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I can't imagine 3 worse candidates running in the same year. My vote is for Wallace because I wouldn't be able to stand those types of Republicans. Ted Kennedy was not electable in any election year ever. I hesitated to give him Hawaii and West Virginia, but I think he'd break through.

You realize Wallace wanted to double the Great Society, right?
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« Reply #21 on: July 02, 2010, 04:15:25 PM »
Quote from: Senator Dallasfan65 on July 02, 2010, 03:06:10 PM
Quote from: Derek on July 02, 2010, 12:18:07 AM
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I can't imagine 3 worse candidates running in the same year. My vote is for Wallace because I wouldn't be able to stand those types of Republicans. Ted Kennedy was not electable in any election year ever. I hesitated to give him Hawaii and West Virginia, but I think he'd break through.

You realize Wallace wanted to double the Great Society, right?

I mean yeah, Rockefeller is on my political sh*t list, but Wallace?
I think I might just go for the self inflicted gunshot wound to the head in this one.....
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« Reply #22 on: July 02, 2010, 04:19:09 PM »
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I can't imagine 3 worse candidates running in the same year. My vote is for Wallace because I wouldn't be able to stand those types of Republicans. Ted Kennedy was not electable in any election year ever. I hesitated to give him Hawaii and West Virginia, but I think he'd break through.

You realize Wallace wanted to double the Great Society, right?

I mean yeah, Rockefeller is on my political sh*t list, but Wallace?
I think I might just go for the self inflicted gunshot wound to the head in this one.....

lol.. or just not vote. Tongue
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« Reply #23 on: July 02, 2010, 04:26:14 PM »
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« Reply #24 on: July 02, 2010, 10:07:07 PM »
Quote from: Senator Dallasfan65 on July 02, 2010, 03:06:10 PM
Quote from: Derek on July 02, 2010, 12:18:07 AM
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I can't imagine 3 worse candidates running in the same year. My vote is for Wallace because I wouldn't be able to stand those types of Republicans. Ted Kennedy was not electable in any election year ever. I hesitated to give him Hawaii and West Virginia, but I think he'd break through.

You realize Wallace wanted to double the Great Society, right?

Double the great society, but support segregation? That's not an oxymoron. Maybe I'd stay home or write in Ralph Nader.
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