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« Reply #225 on: February 15, 2011, 10:19:27 PM »

Who are the people running for Bentsen's seat?
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« Reply #226 on: February 15, 2011, 11:04:41 PM »
« Edited: February 15, 2011, 11:14:17 PM by William Cutting for Pres 2012 »

Who are the people running for Bentsen's seat?

Charles W. Stenholm (Democratic)
Ronald E. Paul (Republican)
Robert K. Douglas (Constitution)

Yeah the politics of Texas are a bit more lax than Montana.  The Constitution Party is actually very weak due to the strength of the Democratic machines located throughout the state that takes quite a bit of the conservative/populist vote.  The Republican Party of Texas is generally libertarian, though some members (like John Tower) have been known to be a bit hawkish.  The Republican Party of Texas is considered to be the most libertarian major state party east of the Rockies and has been almost non-existent in Texas politics until the mid 1960's with the rise in popularity of Civil Rights amongst the Mexican and African American populations that the Republican Party (at least in Texas) were popular with.  However, Democrats still hold massive majorities in the state house and senate as well as in the US House of Representatives and the US Senate.  It is mostly due to the loyalty that conservative Texas Democrats felt to the national party why Texas has remained a red state for as long as it has.
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« Reply #227 on: February 16, 2011, 09:34:03 PM »

Just to let you know, I'm still reading, Mech. Great stuff.
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« Reply #228 on: February 17, 2011, 01:59:12 AM »

Just to let you know, I'm still reading, Mech. Great stuff.

Oh boy I got a pretty epic update planned for tomorrow.

I'll give you a hint: if you thought America was really more progressive in regards to racial and religious relations just wait........
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« Reply #229 on: February 17, 2011, 02:25:01 AM »

October 2nd, 1982
Helmuth Campaign stop in Bozeman, Montana:


Susie K. Helmuth is on the stage when she addresses the crowd:

You know lately the press and the media have been going out of their way, out of their way to deny me my chance at expressing the interests of this great party.  A party built on true traditional American values in direct opposition to the immoral power hungry agenda of the Radical Republican Party and the Papist Democratic Party.  I want to run as the Senator of real Montana, not this $5 fake smile version proposed by Scott Westman and others of his ilk!  Or the one of fake conservatives like David P. Walters!  Or the one of libertine radicals and satanists like D'Israeli.  For far too long they have tried to keep us, the no longer Silent Majority of Americans quiet.  But no longer, no longer now.  Mister President!  We will take no more of you selling out to the Great Hiberno Socialist Conspiracy!

Ms. Helmuth's speech, mostly due to her claim of a "Great Hiberno Socialist Conspiracy" would make the the 6'O clock news in every major American city.  The effects of her speech would be felt throughout the nation...................
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« Reply #230 on: February 19, 2011, 04:26:28 PM »

October 3rd, 1982
King's Corner Interview Segment, CNN
Guest: Scott Westman

King:
Senator welcome to the show.
Westman: How you do king?
King: Well obviously you have a lot on your mind so I'll just skip to the question of the day: what do you think of Susie Helmuth's speech yesterday about the "Great Hiberno Socialist Conspiracy"?
Westman looks at the camera and then bursts out laughing.
King: Huh......I should've figured.
Westman: Well we've been found out King.  There really is a widespread conspiracy of Irish Socialists plotting to enforce world government on the United States of America.  Dos Vedanya laddie!
Westman stands up and gives a "Sieg Heil!" salute.
King: So are you going to take this seriously at all?
Westman scoffs.
Westman: I'm shocked this moonbat lady is still in the race.  I mean if she didn't want anybody to think she is a fraud joke candidate she should've stuck with a more controversial minority group.....like Jews.
King chuckles.
Westman: Yeah how much are they paying you to promote the evil communist agenda against the goyim Larry?  Is it at least more than a bottle of Jim Beans and a bag of sweet potatoes?
King laughs.
Westman: Anyway, I strongly suspect this woman is a joke candidate who is running just for attention.  It would be in everybody's best interest to just disregard her as the total fruitcake that she really is and not take any of this Great Hiberno Socialist Conspiracy stuff seriously.  I mean I've been going to Old Man Mike's pub on 11th street for years and he still refuses to let me have a free drink.  Yeah, our socialist conspiracy is working out so great.  I want to talk with real candidates about real issues, not moonbat conspiracy theories revolving around extremely outdated Know Nothing paranoia.  You see what I propose to the people of Montana is something much much more than joke racism from joke super reactionary candidates, what I propose is simple.  It's called the Scott Westman Doctrine.  Why the Scott Westman Doctrine?  Well because it just doesn't sound as sexy without my first name in there that's why.  Anyway here is what the Scott Westman Doctrine is: A nation isn't truly free unless it has given unto it's populace the greatest extent of freedom and health.  That is and always will be the best of a free loving society and people.
King: So right now in the polls you seem to be holding a 3 point lead, after yesterday's story.  Do you feel confident that you will be able to raise that margin given that this is a multi-candidate race?
Westman: Well King it's bound to be a close and tough race.  Due to the current political environment though it seems likely that the midterm advantage will benefit me and other Democrats who have been in the opposition coalition.  Since Congress got sworn in the majority of legislation has been passed by myself and other Democratic Senators despite having barely above a 30 seat minority and facing a lot heavier Republican and Constitution Party majorities.  This is because the Democratic Party has learned to adapt to the situation, to pass very pragmatic and common sense legislation that a majority of office holders in this nation could agree to.  What we have seen over the past two years is an ineffectual Constitution Party that has done very little except throw protectionist and reactionary rhetoric at every bill proposed by a Republican or Democrat.  We have even seen the president resign from the Constitution Party in protest of their divisive rhetoric and approach to government.  We have seen Republicans split over important issues like union rights, abortion, gay rights, gun rights, taxes, and tariffs....a divide that is less prominent and less threatening to Democrats as we go into the midterm elections.  I myself have an accomplished legislative agenda, I do not doubt my chances at being re-elected.
King: Thank you for your time Senator.  When we come back we will have a special look into bass guitar virtuoso Jerry Brown's newest project entitled "The Brown Wave".  Please stick with us.
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« Reply #231 on: February 19, 2011, 04:33:07 PM »

October 6th, 1982
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We have breaking news.  In a joint rally today Constitution Party supporters Christian Mattingly and William Buckley have announced that they will withdraw support for Susie K. Helmuth, the candidate for US Senate in Montana, and instead endorse the Conservative candidate David Walters.  Party insiders say that Mattingly and Buckley, members of the northern faction, looked down upon Helmuth's latest statements and behavior as "unbecoming of a candidate of the right" and applauded Walters campaign as "just what the modern conservative movement needs right now."  Insiders at the Helmuth campaign, noting her 1.03% rating, suggest that Helmuth is on the verge of pulling out of the race.
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« Reply #232 on: February 19, 2011, 08:42:35 PM »

October 7th, 1982
D'Israeli Rally
Great Falls, MT:


What is most important for the people of this state is to elect one who best represents the libertarian values of this great state.  A US Senator who will defend the civil liberties, allow the states the right to self regulate business and morality, and a US Senator who will stand up to the waste and fraud ridden Public Healthcare System.  Scott Westman is great on when it comes to the first, but not the latter two.  Repeatedly Scott Westman has pushed forward nationalizing the abortion issue, of advocating nation wide legalization.  I am personally pro life, however I think it's unconstitutional of me as a federalist libertarian, to enforce a nation wide abortion ban on the nation.  Rather, this should be left up to each individual state, something my other opponent Roger Walters doesn't understand.  A nationwide abortion ban, as the one implied by the Right to Life Amendment that Mister Walters says he would propose once in office, would cause more harm than good.  Other issues, such as marriage, shouldn't be intruded upon by government.  That is why the founders of this nation put federalist language in our Constitution: because no two states are alike when it comes to the way they govern.
And lastly, the Public Healthcare System that has been endorsed by Westman.  A system that has been proven to be fraud ridden and has lead to increased costs for private health lenders instead of reduced prices and increased competition in the free market.  This is unacceptable.  The next step from a weakened private health market would be a takeover by the federal government, something that Scott Westman spoke favorably of.  This is unacceptable.  We barely can trust the government with the post office and people like Westman think they should have full control over healthcare?  If like me you find this train of thought ridiculous then on election day you vote Republican for me, Mendelik D'Israeli.
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« Reply #233 on: February 19, 2011, 08:48:31 PM »

October 8th, 1982
Lovato Rally
Anaconda, Montana:


How long?  How much longer?  How much longer shall the message of progressivism be ignored in the Congress?  As we speak there is a new majority in Congress, but it isn't Republican and Constitution controlled and it sure as hell isn't 62% control.  It is the Hypracorporate agenda and it controls a supermajority!  It controls 90% of the US Congress, IF NOT MORE!  We have seen the damage it has already done in the hands of Democrats like Scott Westman, we can not trust it in the hands of David Walters or Mendelik D'Israeli!  That is why I have taken it upon myself to run!  There is no viable progressive alternative besides me!  Scott Westman has sold out the voice of Progressive Montana for the last time!  This November let us pull of the ultimate upset and take back the People's Seat!
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« Reply #234 on: February 19, 2011, 08:58:03 PM »
« Edited: February 19, 2011, 09:15:21 PM by William Cutting for Pres 2012 »

October 10th, 1982
Westman Rally
Kalispell, Montana:


Kalispell!  We have known each other a very long time yes?  You know me!  You know my record!  You know that I represent the best values of this wonderful state!  Where would we be today if it weren't for a dedicated servant like myself sticking his ear into your concerns and parlaying it onto the rest of the US Congress for the advancement of honest Montana values!  Like how about the right to smoke dope without being thrown into jail for 20 years?  Or how about the right of gay and lesbian individuals to live together in harmony like straights without fear of repression?  Or how YOUR sacred second amendment rights that I have fought for against Republican, Moderate Reform, and other Democratic opposition?  Let me tell you all something, despite his rhetoric Brian Lovato wouldn'tve supported any of those three.  He is not the true progressive choice he wants you to believe, he's only "progressive" in that he imagines a society of government ruling the people, a society of masters and SERVANTS!  Don't buy his bullsh*t!  Don't buy it at all!
And don't fall for D'Israeli's phony rhetoric, there is very little difference between me and him.  The facts he presents are distorted and I stand by the success of the US Public Healthcare system as proof of that.  As for David Walters......well if you thought our deficit was bad now just wait to see how bad it gets once we are playing world police.
Keeping this in mind how hard is it to see that the most logical choice is to indeed go west?
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« Reply #235 on: February 19, 2011, 09:13:19 PM »

National Rifle Association endorses incumbent US Senator Scott Westman
Gun Owners of America endorses incumbent US Senator Scott Westman
Americans for Drug Reform endorses incumbent US Senator Scott Westman
NARAL Pro-Choice America endorses incumbent US Senator Scott Westman
Alternative Energy America endorses incumbent US Senator Scott Westman
American Civil Liberties Union endorses incumbent US Senator Scott Westman
Human Rights Campaign endorses incumbent US Senator Scott Westman
Society for Human Rights endorses incumbent US Senator Scott Westman
Americans for the Equality of LGBT Individuals endorses incumbent US Senator Scott Westman

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« Reply #236 on: February 19, 2011, 10:30:40 PM »

great updates! You mentioned Mattingly; I'm glad he made the right choice! Grin
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« Reply #237 on: February 20, 2011, 04:49:52 PM »

Interview February 9th, 1989
Scott Westman (D-MT)


Interviewer: And now finally I'm going to ask the infamous question.
Westman: Is it about the infamous 1982 election?
Interviewer: Yes.  Could you imagine the campaign season turning out anything like it did?
Westman laughs
Westman: Ha no, I did not.  If I had to do it all over again I probably would've gotten all of my affairs in order, to say the least.
Interviewer laughs.
Interviewer: But what about the other candidates, what would you have to say about them?
Westman: That brings me to the next thing I should've done.
Interviewer: What's that?
Westman: DON'T underestimate Roger Walters.
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« Reply #238 on: February 20, 2011, 05:00:19 PM »

Hinting at a close race, maybe even with Walters winning...Wink If Walters doesn't win, it'd be nice to see him get elected to Congress as a Conservative.
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« Reply #239 on: February 22, 2011, 08:41:52 PM »

Deleted latest entries due to change in plan and trying to avoid a potential shark jump.

Trust me, it wouldn't make sense in the long term.
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« Reply #240 on: February 22, 2011, 09:35:03 PM »

October 11th, 1982
Second Senatorial Debate
Excerpts:

Lovato:
  The Senator has greatly distorted my stances.  I do support gay rights, I do support marijuana decriminalization, I even support gun rights.  What I don't support is extremism on the latter and that is why Westman thinks he can get away with labeling anybody who disagrees with him as a statist.
Westman: Brian that's because you are a statist.  The fact that you are polling above 13% shows that the people of Montana aren't falling for your big government propaganda.  They want somebody who represents liberal values and respect for this state's libertarian values, not you.
Lovato: Those are some very arrogant and closedminded words Scott.
Westman: There you go again with those politically correct attack words of yours: "closedminded".  Next thing I know you are going to call me "hate filled" and a "rich loving bigot" aren't you Brian?  Tell me how does it feel to be a holier than thou overpaid union member?
Moderator: Jesus gentlemen, a little decorum here?

D'Israeli: The Republican agenda for Montana is fully in line with it's libertarian values, unlike the "liberal" views of Westman that endorses government take over of our healthcare system.
Westman: Is healthcare the only thing you have against me?  Ladies and gentlemen, the fact that healthcare is the only difference that D'Israeli can show between me and him speaks volumes about the weakness of his campaign.  He is a friggin me-too Republican and you might as well vote for me.  The only difference is that when you re-elect Scott Westman you will still have healthcare.
D'Israeli: Vote for D'Israeli, the only difference between me and Westman is that when I'm elected the government will get out of your wallet.

Walters: What this state needs is someone who is strong on American defense, something that none of the other front runners in this election are strong on.  If you are worried about the threats to this nation from far left radical states like the Socialist Republic of Yugoslavia, the Socialist Republic of Galicia, the Social Democratic Republic of New Russia, the Democratic Republic of Egypt, the Galician Free State, and the Persian People's Republic then this is the party for you.  For far too long America has ignored the silent creeping of socialism world wide.  How many more states shall fall to the spectre of socialism before action is taken?  How much longer must we wait till this ghost finally is at our door?  The end of Communist Russia and China was not the end of the war, but merely the beginning of new conflict between the forces of Capitalism and "subtle socialism".
Westman: I find this view of international politics quite frightening.
Walters: It's better than just sitting back and wait until the ghost of socialism takes us over Scott.
Westman: Yes like I'm sure that strong armed military intervention will keep support for capitalism strong in those countries.  Just as sure I am that the United Irish Republic and the Brazilian Confederation are just itching to attack us.
Walters: Those states are different.  They have shown a willingness to cooperate with the United States and not force socialism on their citizens.
Westman: And the Social Democratic Republic of New Russia doesn't?  Which country again is it that Tobin MacMahon has opened his latest resort on the Caspian Sea?  Your interpretation of "socialist state" needs much working.
Walters: And you Westman show a great willingness to come to defense of states that are obviously totalitarian over those who at least gives their citizens a modicum of freedom.

Walters: No longer will I and millions of Americans let this issue subside.  There are some issues we have left up to the states, this one should not be.
D'Israeli: Violating the rights of states to dictate their own social policies is unconstitutional is it not?
Walters: In the case of defending life I would argue that it is not.  After these past two years it has become more apparent now than ever, with the rise of women travelling over states lines in record numbers to get abortions, that this is a problem that can't be limited via federalism.  A nationwide legalization would only lead to a spike in abortions since millions of Americans would accept the idea that life does not begin at conception.  I make no apologies for this position: such a result is unacceptable.  This is one of the cornerstones of this campaign.  I will not budge.

Many people would perceive Westman's confrontational attitude throughout the speech as negative, thus leading to a poll decline of 2 points.  However, David Walters would widely be considered the winner of the second debate by a majority of debate watchers and in the next day's poll he would end up inexplicably in the lead with .8 points ahead of Westman.
With one more debate left in late October, Westman would have to craft a new strategy to combat the rising star of David Walters.
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« Reply #241 on: February 23, 2011, 09:48:52 PM »
« Edited: February 23, 2011, 09:50:56 PM by Doctor Sexy Abs »

October 13th-October 28th, 1982:

Scott Westman goes on a statewide tour of Montana, stopping at every town and city in Montana.  In his tour he covers important issues to Montanans, focusing mostly on strengthening environmental standards and regulations, the benefits of free trade with Canada, support for alternative energy, and defending the record of the US Public Healthcare system.  By October 28th his performance on the tour would better his prospects for re-election, bringing him way ahead of Lovato and D'Israeli.  It seemed his abundance of funds to spend on a statewide tour would give him an edge over his opponents.  However, not all was roses.
Walters had managed to gain a massive fundraising boost as coffers came from all around the nation to help him get enough funds to make a last minute push with various tv ads, radio ads, and even a state wide tour of his own in "swing towns and cities" around Montana while Westman (who promised to visit every town and city in Montana) would stop even in places where he had no chance.
By the time of the final debate the two were in a statistical deadheat at 29.1% Westman and 29.07% Walters.  Due to the large lead over everyone else many would consider the Montana race a two man race from that point on as progressive support for Lovato died off as he was perceived as being in the race as he was perceived as being more "anti-Westman" than progressive and pro-life support for D'Israeli died off when they perceived him as a "Me-too" libertarian Republican to Westman's liberal libertarianism.  The endorsement of the Classical Liberal Party didn't help at all it seemed, but rather painted D'Israeli as a libertarian radical and cost him votes.
David Walters, who wasn't even in the race as late as early July was going toe to toe with the state's popular incumbent senator.
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« Reply #242 on: February 23, 2011, 10:08:12 PM »

Deleted latest entries due to change in plan and trying to avoid a potential shark jump.

Trust me, it wouldn't make sense in the long term.

I understand. As usual, you know who I'm rooting for.
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« Reply #243 on: February 23, 2011, 10:15:27 PM »

Final US Senate Debate
October 29th, 1982
Excerpts:

Westman:
As you all can see by now that I am the most pragmatic and representative choice out of the major front runners.
Lovato: Or the most deceitful and the biggest sellout to corporate interests.
Westman: Hush!  You're just hurt that you are currently polling at a measly 13%!

D'Israeli: I know the poll numbers don't looks so well right now but the people of Montana still have an alternative to bigger government in the Republican Party.
Westman: Or if you are too lazy to vote Democrat you could vote Republican.  After all there is very little difference between the two, at least in this election.
Walters: Or you could vote for a real alternative that is more representative of the conservative people of Montana with the Conservative Party.  After all, life is a little boring with only two parties!

Walters: What has disturbed me the most is the aloofness of our Senator.  He seems to not understand the peril of the issues before us today: the state of the US army, the readiness of defense in this nation to a terror attack, the importance a free market plays in the healthcare of this nation, how government intervention has ultimately caused medical premiums to skyrocket, and how his support of nationalized abortion will put millions of new lives into the ash heap of history.  If we continue going down this road, as a state and as a people, behind Senator Westman it will be disaster for this state and this nation.  Already Senator Westman has helped radically speed up the decriminalization of harmful drugs that were illegal before he came into office, with his help the death penalty has remained abolished for over a decade, with his help the right of business owners to hire the best qualified employee or for colleges to accept the best students has now been weakened in favor of feel good "affirmative action" laws that are misguided, already he has helped pen legislation that has greatly weakened the oil and gas industry in favor of less efficient "alternative fuels".  I've been to Michigan, I've been to Christian Mattingly's dealership, his oil and gas powered cars run more efficiently and go farther than any of the proposed solar powered cars being proposed by Westman in the Senate.  His radical zeal for neo-environmentalism as a solution to almost any problem, well except for maybe healthcare (audience laughs), is astounding.  What did Scott Westman go into his first grade math class and thought that two plus two equals "clean coal"? (audience laughs)  What we don't need is a Senator Moonbeam, we need a Senator in office for the best of the people of Montana.  I believe that frankly I am the best qualified candidate for that requirement.

Westman: I do acknowledge that my opponent, Mr. Walters, has a very strong campaign behind him and a revived national movement of conservatism, however when compared to the average Montanan his values differ quite a bit.  Mr. Walters talks a lot about preserving life....unless of course it comes to our publicly funded national healthcare system that has already saved millions of lives and innovated many in the healthcare sector of our private economy.  Yes!  Unlike what my two other opponents will tell you there are benefits to be made for private enterprise with the help of a government financed medical system!  However, my more conservative opponents will assert that I am a big government authoritarian simply because I believe it is a moral duty for the government to be able to take care of the disabled and ill.  My bad guys, I didn't realize that having a government run health care option that heals millions of people who otherwise would not be able to afford such care was a bad thing.  I also had no idea, Mister Lovato, that allowing free enterprise to continue operating in the medical field was such an immoral act worthy of condemnation.  I had no idea that the only way that healthcare can work in this nation is if we stifled private innovation and simply, as you believe, leave everything up to the government.  I'm sorry fellas that my approach to this issue is more thought out than your "all or nothing" and black and white views of the matter, but that is why I'm the Senator of this state and will win re-election while you guys go back to your day jobs.  It was a nice time debating you on all of these debates and exchanging ideas but it is clear to me, and the people watching this debate, that I am clearly the most qualified person on this stage to represent Montana in the United States Senate.

Westman and Walters strong arguments would help make the final Montana debate one of the most exciting debates in the history of US Senate debates.  Westman would win the final debate, barely, and the momentum would help propel him to a .21 lead over Walters before election day on November 2nd.  However, there is something that both candidates forgot to consider: Run-off Rules.
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« Reply #244 on: February 23, 2011, 10:21:46 PM »
« Edited: February 23, 2011, 10:23:37 PM by Doctor Sexy Abs »

Montana US Senate Election Law Section 2971b (revised 04/13/1981)Sad

In the event that no candidate receives more than 40% of the vote in a US Senate Election a run-off election shall be held no later than two weeks after the original election.  This time frame exists to give the candidates and election workers a little bit of breathing room.  Any candidate on the ballot who either (a) receives less than 10% of the total vote, or (b) can't win the election with the votes of candidates who have dropped out, will be ineligible for the run-off.  For example: if Candidate C is so far behind Candidate B and Candidate A that he can't win with the votes of Candidates D, E, and F he will be ineligible for the run-off election.  This process has been adopted to prevent any possible headaches that a long drawn out "everything goes" election season might have.

With the race so close with still somewhat strong poll performances for Lovato and D'Israeli could Westman or Walters win the election with 40% of the vote?  Or will they be forced into a run-off?
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« Reply #245 on: February 23, 2011, 10:43:41 PM »
« Edited: February 23, 2011, 11:26:44 PM by Doctor Sexy Abs »

November 2nd, 1982:

All around the nation voters are turning out to the polls to elect US Congressmen.  With approval ratings for the Constitution Party at an all time low it is likely that massive gains for Democrats and Republicans can be expected.  However, not all is sunny for the two major parties as a significant number of right wing third party ticket have been formed to run against the perceived abandonment of conservatism amongst the two major parties.  Of note the Conservative Party of New York is running Richard J. Harrison, a pro-life Catholic, against incumbent Democrat Daniel P. Moynihan, a pro-choice Catholic, and the race in Montana between incumbent Democratic Senator Scott Westman, another pro-choice Catholic, and Roger Walters, another pro-life Catholic.  This split amongst American Catholics over the abortion issue may prove to be a great bane to the Democratic Party that has run quite a few pro-choice Democrats in nationwide elections this year.  Catholics, traditionally a Democratic group, are showing huge leans towards conservative third parties in light of the abortion debate.  In the 1980 Election Walter Mondale, a Democrat, managed to win only 42% of the Catholic vote and 58% of the Irish Catholic vote (a group which voted over 92% for RFK in 1972 and over 81% for Reagan in 1976).  Democrats hope to recoup those losses and others tonight by regaining traditionally Democratic seats in the South that are currently being held by Constitution Party members and by appealing to Hispanics and Asians on the West Coast as well as traditional mining communities in the Rocky Mountain West.  However, these gains might not be possible with a bitterly divided Irish Catholic voting bloc, a voting bloc that has remained solid from the birth of the Democratic Party until last election, due to the controversial issue of abortion.  Never before has a social issue such as the abortion issue been so divisive to an otherwise mega Democratic voting bloc.  Pro-life Democrats in US Congress are benefitting greatly from their pro-life stances, almost certainly coasting to re-election in a midterm.  However, the majority who have embraced pro-choice views may find themselves ending up with a rare midterm net loss of seats due to taking a controversial stand for abortion legalization.
On a side note in the northeast "Progressive" and "Moderate Reform" candidates are looking to be benefiting from moderate Republican votes and progressive Democrats who feel as if their parties have abandoned the progressive agenda.  Already approval ratings for these parties amongst groups like inner city blacks, intellectuals, and suburbanites is looking good for the Progressive Coalition.

And now onto the Montana Election:

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« Reply #246 on: February 23, 2011, 10:48:14 PM »

In later years, Moynihan moderated on his pro-choice position and from what I recall, was against partial-birth abortions. I'll check though. How's Texas looking?
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« Reply #247 on: February 23, 2011, 10:50:35 PM »

Yup, after checking wikipedia, he supported a ban on partial-birth abortion and went as far as to say to pro-choice feminists "You women are ruining the Democratic Party with your insistence on abortion". This is all later in his career of course.
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« Reply #248 on: February 23, 2011, 10:59:49 PM »
« Edited: February 26, 2011, 09:56:13 AM by Mechaman »

US Senate as of November 2nd, 1982:

Alabama:
Class 2: Howell T. Heflin (Constitution)
Class 3: Jeremiah Denton (Constitution)

Alaska:
Class 2: Theodore Stevens (Republican)
Class 3: Walter Hickel (Constitution)
Arizona:
Class 1: Morris Udall (Democratic)
Class 3: Barry Goldwater (Republican)
Arkansas:
Class 2: William J. Clinton (Democratic)
Class 3: William Clark (Constitution)
California:
Class 1: Ricardo Montalban(Republican)
Class 3: Michael V. Hawk (Republican)

Colorado:
Class 2: Carlos Mendez(Republican)
Class 3: Mary E. Buchanan (Republican)

Connecticut:
Class 1: Lowell P. Weicker (Moderate Reform)
Class 3: Christopher J. Dodd (Democratic)
Delaware:
Class 1: William V. Roth (Republican)
Class 2: Joseph R. Biden, Jr. (Democratic)
Florida:
Class 1: Lawton Chiles (Democratic)
Class 3: Roy Holland (Constitution)
Georgia:
Class 2: Fletcher Thompson (Constitution)
Class 3: Mack Mattingly (Constitution)

Hawaii:
Class 1: Spark M. Matsunga (Democratic)
Class 3: Don Djou (Republican)
Idaho:
Class 2: James A. McClure (Republican)
Class 3: Steve Symms (Constitution)
Illinois:
Class 1: Farley H. Murray (Democratic)
Class 3: Daniel Crane (Republican)
Indiana:
Class 1: Richard Lugar (Republican)
Class 3: Collins McCarn (Constitution)
Iowa:
Class 2: John Kyl (Republican)
Class 3: Mark Gladden (Constitution)
Kansas:
Class 2: Robert J. Dole (Republican)
Class 3: Larry Winn (Constitution)
Kentucky:
Class 2: Walter Huddleston (Constitution)
Class 3: Gene Snyder (Constitution)

Louisiana:
Class 2: Moon Landrieu (Democratic)
Class 3: Joe D. Waggonner (Constitution)
Maine:
Class 1: Monteaux LeDeax (Republican)
Class 2: William Cohen (Republican)

Maryland:
Class 1: Sargent Shriver (Democratic)
Class 3: Charles Matthias (Republican)
Massachusetts:
Class 1: Daniel M. Lynch(Democratic)
Class 2: William Saltonstall (Republican)
Michigan:
Class 1: Lenore Romney (Republican)
Class 2: Henry Claymore (Democratic)
Minnesota:
Class 1: David Durenberger (Republican)
Class 2: Walter Mondale (DFL)
Mississippi:
Class 1: John C. Stennis
Class 2: James O. Eastland (Dixiecrat)

Missouri:
Class 1: John Danforth (Republican)
Class 3: Thomas Eagleton (Democratic)
Montana:
Class 1: Scott Westman (Democratic)
Class 2: Max Baucus (Democratic)

Nebraska:
Class 1: Virginia Smith (Republican)
Class 2: Paul Mercanti (Republican)
Nevada:
Class 1: Mike O'Callaghan (Democratic)
Class 3: Paul Laxalt (Republican)
New Hampshire:
Class 2: Thaddeus Michaels (Republican)*
Class 3: Warren Rudman (Republican)

New Jersey:
Class 1: William K. Everson (Republican)*
Class 2: Bill Bradley (Democratic)
New Mexico:
Class 1: Raul Ramirez (Democratic)
Class 2: Harrison Schmitt (Republican)
New York:
Class 1: Daniel P. Moynihan (Democratic)
Class 3: David P. Killian (Democratic)

North Carolina:
Class 2: Bradley Moore (Constitution)
Class 3: John P. East (Constitution)

North Dakota:
Class 1: Robert Stroup (Republican)
Class 3: Anthony Williams (Constitution)
Ohio:
Class 1: Robert Taft Jr. (Republican)
Class 3: John Glenn (Democratic)
Oklahoma:
Class 2: James Robert Jones (Democratic)
Class 3: Don Nickles (Constitution)
Oregon:
Class 2: Mark Hatfield (Republican)
Class 3: Robert Packwood (Republican)

Pennsylvania:
Class 1: H. John Heinz III (Republican)
Class 2: Lawrence Watson (Democratic)
Rhode Island:
Class 1: John Chafee (Moderate Reform)
Class 2: Ruth M. Briggs (Republican)
South Carolina:
Class 2: Strom Thurmond (Constitution)
Class 3: Charlie Rhodes (Constitution)

South Dakota:
Class 2: Larry Pressler (Republican)
Class 3: Sean O'Brien (Constitution)
Tennessee:
Class 1: Bill Boner (Democratic)
Class 2: Howard Baker (Republican)
Texas:
Class 1: Lloyd Bentsen (Democratic)
Class 2: James Wright (Democratic)

Utah:
Class 1: Orrin Hatch (Republican)
Class 3: Quentin Maxwell (Constitution)
Vermont:
Class 1: Robert Stafford (Moderate Reform)
Class 3: Richard W. Mallary (Moderate Reform)

Virginia:
Class 1: Charles C. Gooding (Democratic)
Class 2: Tobin MacMahon (Democratic)

Washington:
Class 1: Allan B. Swift (Democratic)
Class 3: Harry Callahan (Republican)
West Virginia:
Class 1: Robert Byrd (Democratic)
Class 2: Alan Mollohan (Democratic)
Wisconsin:
Class 1: William Proxmire (Democratic)
Class 3: William R. Goodman (Republican)
Wyoming:
Class 1: Alan K. Simpson (Republican)
Class 2: Beauregard D'Israeli (Republican)


Bump, for my convenience.
Changes are in bold.

*stands for awaiting special election.

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« Reply #249 on: February 23, 2011, 11:09:25 PM »
« Edited: February 23, 2011, 11:15:58 PM by Doctor Sexy Abs »

In later years, Moynihan moderated on his pro-choice position and from what I recall, was against partial-birth abortions. I'll check though. How's Texas looking?

True.
Keep in mind though that this America is quite a bit more pro-life than IRL.  In this timeline even a majority of pro-choicers would probably be opposed to partial birth abortion.  There hasn't been a Roe V. Wade equivalent in this timeline and states still decide whether or not to allow abortion within their states.  So in that respect Moyniahn is considered pro-choice in this timeline.
So far the most pro-choice state is Texas (just to make this weirder) with Arizona in a close second.

The Texas race looks like it will be close between Charles Stenholm and Ronald Paul.  The Constitution Party is looking to do very bad this year due to lack of support amongst conservatives/populists who due to identity politics still identify as Democrats.  In fact I would say that the Texas Democratic Party is probably overall a moderate party that just happens to be very liberal on abortion and very conservative on the death penalty (you could say they are "pro-death").
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