Best case scenario

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

Here is a example why we must keep the E.C.

Ok say we take New York, Miami, LA, Detroit, Boston. Whats that about 15 - 20 million? Say a Hitler type facist or some bad dude comes up and wants to run for president. If he has support from the cities he has a very very very good chance of winning. At least with the E.C. their is a better chance of keeping a true tyrant out.

I agree with states' rihts that the EC must be kept.  Although a direct popualr vote would uphold one person=one vote, anidates would go back and forth between the big cities, trying only to capture their votes.  Not only that, but states are very different and they all need their seperate voices.  The EC is fine.  It makes sure the votes is properly distributed thruought the countryfor the prez to be able to effectivly do his job.  

[Nation]

I agree with what's being said about the EC, but I think we can also all agree that if the situation where the PV winner is NOT the EC winner, there will be a lot of discussion in the media and anger from the losing party about the EC.

[??????????]

Certainly, as their should be. But in many countries if your party doesnt win you overthrow the Government. I'm glad things stay stable here.

[angus]

 everybody needs to learn to get over the electoral system.    It's just the way it is.

Dude, I bow.  That's when you know you've spent too much time goofing around on the computer.  nerd.

[dunn]

Hey, I'm now a YaBB God. BOW BEFORE ME.

one 0f 20 or so

[Nation]

We're a polytheistic board, think of it that way.

[Ben.]

We're a polytheistic board, think of it that way.

one day... one day....(returns to brood in his darkened layer)...

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

I agree with what's being said about the EC, but I think we can also all agree that if the situation where the PV winner is NOT the EC winner, there will be a lot of discussion in the media and anger from the losing party about the EC.

There really wasn't much anger about the EC system when Gore lost last time.  A lot of anger about the vote counting process, but not much about the EC.   I don't see why there would be more anger if it happened again.

[Gustaf]

Here is a example why we must keep the E.C.

Ok say we take New York, Miami, LA, Detroit, Boston. Whats that about 15 - 20 million? Say a Hitler type facist or some bad dude comes up and wants to run for president. If he has support from the cities he has a very very very good chance of winning. At least with the E.C. their is a better chance of keeping a true tyrant out.

I don't know what you're talking about. Are you implying that urban people are more likely to vote for a tyrant than rural peopel? If you are, show me some proof please, if you're not than your example makes no sense at all. I think all of you have no idea what you're talking about. There's is no sign at all as far as I can see of voters being favoured just b/c thy live in big cities.

[MAS117]

Best case scenario for Bush:



Bush 461
Kerry 77

even if that happened, bush wouldnt win my state of NJ

[??????????]

Here is a example why we must keep the E.C.

Ok say we take New York, Miami, LA, Detroit, Boston. Whats that about 15 - 20 million? Say a Hitler type facist or some bad dude comes up and wants to run for president. If he has support from the cities he has a very very very good chance of winning. At least with the E.C. their is a better chance of keeping a true tyrant out.

I don't know what you're talking about. Are you implying that urban people are more likely to vote for a tyrant than rural peopel? If you are, show me some proof please, if you're not than your example makes no sense at all. I think all of you have no idea what you're talking about. There's is no sign at all as far as I can see of voters being favoured just b/c thy live in big cities.

I'm not saying a big city would be more likely to nominate a tyrant. I'm just saying if they DID, a rural area would have no power to stop it if a city could gather enough voters.

[Beefalow and the Consumer]

Here is a example why we must keep the E.C.

Ok say we take New York, Miami, LA, Detroit, Boston. Whats that about 15 - 20 million? Say a Hitler type facist or some bad dude comes up and wants to run for president. If he has support from the cities he has a very very very good chance of winning. At least with the E.C. their is a better chance of keeping a true tyrant out.

I don't know what you're talking about. Are you implying that urban people are more likely to vote for a tyrant than rural peopel? If you are, show me some proof please, if you're not than your example makes no sense at all. I think all of you have no idea what you're talking about. There's is no sign at all as far as I can see of voters being favoured just b/c thy live in big cities.

Large numbers of people living in small areas are much more likely to be swayed by empty rhetoric and mob mentalities.  In the city you grow accustomed to being taken care of by social services.  Your trash is picked up by the city.  Your water comes from the city.  Your landlord is regulated by the city.  If you lose your job and your home, you count on the ciry to take care of you.  Such mentality is more easily ensnared by totalitarianism.  Thus, it's no huge wonder that many large cities tend to elect socialistic politicians from time to time.

In rural areas, people are used to fending for themselves, taking care of themselves, thinking for themselves.  It's frontier mentality, and such a mindset is much more reluctant to give up freedom.

[Gustaf]

Here is a example why we must keep the E.C.

Ok say we take New York, Miami, LA, Detroit, Boston. Whats that about 15 - 20 million? Say a Hitler type facist or some bad dude comes up and wants to run for president. If he has support from the cities he has a very very very good chance of winning. At least with the E.C. their is a better chance of keeping a true tyrant out.

I don't know what you're talking about. Are you implying that urban people are more likely to vote for a tyrant than rural peopel? If you are, show me some proof please, if you're not than your example makes no sense at all. I think all of you have no idea what you're talking about. There's is no sign at all as far as I can see of voters being favoured just b/c thy live in big cities.

Large numbers of people living in small areas are much more likely to be swayed by empty rhetoric and mob mentalities.  In the city you grow accustomed to being taken care of by social services.  Your trash is picked up by the city.  Your water comes from the city.  Your landlord is regulated by the city.  If you lose your job and your home, you count on the ciry to take care of you.  Such mentality is more easily ensnared by totalitarianism.  Thus, it's no huge wonder that many large cities tend to elect socialistic politicians from time to time.

In rural areas, people are used to fending for themselves, taking care of themselves, thinking for themselves.  It's frontier mentality, and such a mindset is much more reluctant to give up freedom.

In Sweden most big cities lean right. I see your points, but I don't think you're right. Unless I'm mistaken Hitler got most of his support from Evangelical farmers.

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

Best case scenario for Bush:



Bush 461
Kerry 77

even if that happened, bush wouldnt win my state of NJ

Yea, dude.  He gets our state and I'll be stunned.  We're smarter than that.  

[© tweed]

Best case scenario for Bush:



Bush 461
Kerry 77

even if that happened, bush wouldnt win my state of NJ

Yea, dude.  He gets our state and I'll be stunned.  We're smarter than that.  

Didn't want to offend any of you New Jerseyans (but we all think you're stupid here in NY), but this is a best-case scenario for Bush.

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

Best case scenario for Bush:



Bush 461
Kerry 77

even if that happened, bush wouldnt win my state of NJ

Yea, dude.  He gets our state and I'll be stunned.  We're smarter than that.  

Didn't want to offend any of you New Jerseyans (but we all think you're stupid here in NY), but this is a best-case scenario for Bush.

Jersey"ITES".