SOVIET POLITBURO Survivor - GORBACHEV is a survivor

[big bad fab]

Well, even more than Hitler's aides and satraps, this is my favourite survivor.
Kal has already done, last year, a very pleasant Stalin inner circle, but here, I've include all the 1917-1991 period.

Here are the most important Politburo members (either full members or candidate members: the dates are between brackets).
Of course, there are some exceptions, as 4 guys were never in the Politburo, but were important enough, in their time, for me to include them (Radek, Tukhachevskyi, Yagoda, Pavlov).

Many choices are of course disputable. I know it, but I needed to have a similar number of names in each group...
Many guys aren't easily put in only one category (Mikoyan, Suslov, Kosygin, for example, as they served many masters and behaved in very different ways during their life); some aren't really linked to any category (Zhukov, e.g.).
I wanted to have a "reformist" group, without the old khrushchevians. But it would have been too small (only Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Yakovlev and Shevardnadze).
Between "khrushchevians" and "modern conservatives", the border is tenuous. Some kremlinologists would kill me to put Andropov in the "khrushchevians"... . Trotsky would have made a group of his own...
And when it's written "open", it doesn't mean "cool"... It's just that the guys were able to evolve from their original basis.



"Bolsheviks":
Vladimir Ulyanov LENIN (1917-1924)
Lev Bronstein TROTSKIY (1917-1926)
Mikhail Ivanovich KALININ (1919-1946)
Yakov SVERDLOV (1918-1919)
Yelena STASOVA (1917-1918, 1919)
Yevgeniy PREOBRAZHENSKIY (1917-1918, 1920-1921)
Yan RUDZUTAK (1926-1932, 1934-1938)
Stanislav KOSIOR (1927-1939)
Vlas CHUBAR (1926-1938)

"Open bolsheviks":
Lev Rozenfeld KAMENEV (1917-1926)
Grigoriy Radomyslskiy ZINOVYEV (1917-1926)
Nikolay BUKHARIN (1917-1929)
Aleksey RYKOV (1922-1930)
Mikhail TOMSKIY (1922-1930)
Nikolay KRESTINSKIY (1917-1921)
Mikhail FRUNZE (1924-1925)
Grigoriy Brilliant SOKOLNIKOV (1917-1919)
Karl RADEK (-)
Mikhail TUKHACHEVSKIY (-)

"Stalinists":
Iosif Dzhugashvili STALIN (1917-1953)
Vyacheslav Skryabin MOLOTOV (1921-1957)
Kliment VOROSHILOV (1926-1960)
Lazar KAGANOVICH (1926-1957)
Feliks DZERZHINSKIY (1918-1919, 1924-1926)
Andrey ZHDANOV (1935-1948)
Nikolay YEZHOV (1937-1938)
Andrey ANDREYEV (1926-1930, 1932-1952)
Lavrentiy BERIYA (1939-1953)
Andrey VYSHINSKIY (1952-1953)
Pavel POSTYSHEV (1934-1938)
Genrikh YAGODA (-)

"Open stalinists":
Georgiy MALENKOV (1941-1957)
Nikolay BULGANIN (1946-1958)
Anastas MIKOYAN (1926-1966)
Dmitriy SHEPILOV (1956-1957)
Sergey Kostrikov KIROV (1926-1934)
Maksim SABUROV (1952-1957)
Mikhail PERVUKHIN (1952-1961)
Nikolay VOZNESENSKIY (1941-1949)
Georgiy ZHUKOV (1956-1957)
Grigori Sergo ORDZHONIKIDZE (1930-1937)
Valerian KUYBYSHEV (1927-1935)

"Brezhnevians":
Leonid BREZHNEV (1952-1953, 1957-1982)
Konstantin CHERNENKO (1977-1985)
Nikolay TIKHONOV (1978-1985)
Andrey GROMYKO (1973-1988)
Vasiliy KUZNETSOV (1952-1953, 1977-1986)
Mikhail SUSLOV (1952-1953, 1955-1982)
Dmitriy USTINOV (1965-1984)
Andrey GRECHKO (1973-1976)
Vladimir SHCHERBITSKIY (1961-1963, 1965-1989)
Viktor GRISHIN (1961-1986)
Sharaf RASHIDOV (1961-1983)
Boris PONOMAREV (1972-1986)

"Modern conservatives":
Aleksey KOSYGIN (1946-1953, 1957-1980)
Andrey KIRILENKO (1957-1961, 1962-1982)
Grigoriy ROMANOV (1973-1985)
Nikolay RYZHKOV (1985-1990)
Gennadiy YANAYEV (1990-1991)
Anatoliy LUKYANOV (1988-1990)
Yegor LIGACHEV (1985-1990)
Lev ZAYKOV (1986-1990)
Viktor CHEBRIKOV (1983-1989)
Vladimir KRYUCHKOV (1989-1990)
Heidar ALIYEV (1976-1987)
Pyotr SHELEST (1963-1973)
Valentin PAVLOV (-)

"Khrushchevians":
Nikita Sergeyevich KHRUSHCHEV (1938-1964)
Yuriy ANDROPOV (1967-1984)
Nikolay PODGORNIY (1958-1977)
Nikolay SHVERNIK (1939-1966)
Aleksandr SHELEPIN (1964-1975)
Frol KOZLOV (1956-1964)
Fyodor KULAKOV (1971-1978)
Dmitriy POLYANSKIY (1958-1976)
Otto KUUSINEN (1952-1953, 1957-1964)
Mikhail GORBACHEV (1979-1991)
Aleksandr YAKOVLEV (1987-1990)
Eduard SHEVARDNADZE (1978-1990)
Boris YELTSIN (1986-1988)


Rules are different in each round: please read the rules before voting.
The Politburo member who receives the biggest total of votes or points is purged.
In case of a tie, the Politburo member who has received the biggest total of previous votes is purged.
In case of a new tie, I, GenSek of this survivor, decide who is purged.

ROUND 1 IS OPEN !

Beware !In this round, you have 3 points, to cast 2-1 between 2 different Politburo members in EACH group.
We'll purge 1 Politburo member in each group.
Beware !

[big bad fab]

"Bolsheviks":
2 Vladimir Ulyanov LENIN He was the first responsible
1 Lev Bronstein TROTSKIY He may have been as bad as Stalin, or even worse

"Open bolsheviks":
2 Grigoriy Radomyslskiy ZINOVYEV Very rude, even if purged
1 Nikolay KRESTINSKIY I find him uninteresting

"Stalinists":
2 Iosif Dzhugashvili STALIN Just one word: Stalin
1 Nikolay YEZHOV An uninteresting and short-lived monster

"Open stalinists":
1 for Anastas MIKOYAN More deeply implicated in stalinist repression than was thought; not really reformist; a big, big opportunist
2 for Georgiy ZHUKOV Politically unstable

"Brezhnevians":
2 Konstantin CHERNENKO Drunk, stupid, corrupt, dangerous
1 Sharaf RASHIDOV Remember the cotton scandal in Uzbekistan ?

"Modern conservatives":
1 Gennadiy YANAYEV Moron and coup-maker
2 Heidar ALIYEV Local satrap who was very opportunistic

"Khrushchevians":
2 Nikolay SHVERNIK First a classical stalinist
1 Dmitriy POLYANSKIY (1958-1976) Just a minor one... The last name I've added on the list

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Bolsheviks
2 Lev Bronstein TROTSKIY
1 Stanislav KOSIOR helped plan the Ukrainian genocide

Open Bolsheviks
2 Nikolay KRESTINSKIY
1 Mikhail FRUNZE another boring one

Stalinists
2 Iosif Dzhugashvili Stalin
1 Pavel POSTYSHEV helped plan the Ukrainian genocide (and not particularly interesting)

Open Stalinists
2 Anastas MIKOYAN
1 Grigori Sergo ORDZHONIKIDZE - uninteresting

Brezhnevians
2 Konstantin CHERNENKO
1 Vladimir SHCHERBITSKIY in charge of covering up Chernobyl

Modern conservatives
2 Gennadiy YANAYEV
1 Andrey KIRILENKO another uninteresting one

Khrushchevians
2 Nikolay SHVERNIK
1 Dmitriy POLYANSKIY

[Hans-im-Glück]

Bolsheviks
2   Stanislav KOSIOR
1   Yakov SVERDLOV

Open Bolsheviks
2   Grigoriy Radomyslskiy ZINOVYEV
1   Mikhail FRUNZE

Stalinists
2    Iosif Dzhugashvili Stalin
1    Lavrentiy BERIYA

Open Stalinists
2   Anastas MIKOYAN
1   Georgiy ZHUKOV

Brezhnevians
2   Andrey GROMYKO
1   Konstantin CHERNENKO

Modern conservatives
2    Heidar ALIYEV
1    Andrey KIRILENKO

Khrushchevians
2   Nikolay SHVERNIK
1   Dmitriy POLYANSKIY

[Edu]

Bolsheviks
2 for Stanislav KOSIOR
1 for Yakov SVERDLOV

Open Bolsheviks
2 for Mikhail FRUNZE
1 for Nikolay KRESTINSKIY

Stalinists
2 for Iosif Dzhugashvili STALIN
1 for Pavel POSTYSHEV

Open Stalinists
2 for Anastas MIKOYAN
1 for Valerian KUYBYSHEV

Brezhnevians
2 for Konstantin CHERNENKO
1 for Vladimir SHCHERBITSKIY

Modern conservatives
2 for Andrey KIRILENKO
1 for Gennadiy YANAYEV

Khrushchevians
2 for Dmitriy POLYANSKIY
1 for Nikolay SHVERNIK

[big bad fab]

I'm honoured the great survivor fans are in !
And with fine picks (Kosior, Postyshev).

But Kirilenko, why Kirilenko ?
So mysterious (could he turn in a second Chernenko or was he like the young Shelepin ?), a possible Brezhnev successor between, what, 1976 and 1980, something like that...
TBH, I think he wasn't brilliant, but he was a real enigma for kremlinology

If there is a complete tie, you know what I'll do
(but I've PMed Kal, GMantis and ag, those who are really interested in the USSR)

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Finally


2 Kalinin
1 Chubar

2 Rykov
1 Sokolnikov

2 Jezhov
1 Yagoda

2 Bulganin
1 Shepilov

2 Brezhnev
1 Suslov

2 Kosygin
1 Palvov

2 Yeltsin
1. Shvernik

[big bad fab]

Yay, with Kal's votes, it'll be really fun

[Bo]

Bolsheviks

Lenin
Trotsky

Open Bolsheviks

Kamenev
Bukharin

Stalinists

Stalin
Kaganovich

Open Stalinists

Malenkov
Bulganin

Brezhnevians

Brezhnev
Chernenko

Modern Conservatives

Kosygin
Ryzhkov

Khrushchevians

Khrushchev
Andropov

[big bad fab]

Our first big purge...

And 3 ties for me to solve... I've picked the less interesting ones historically (Krestinskiy over Zinovyev and Frunze, Zhukov over Mikoyan: political history, Yanayev over Aliyev, Kosygin and Kirilenko).
So that we can keep bigger ones.


"Bolsheviks":
Vladimir Ulyanov LENIN (1917-1924)
Lev Bronstein TROTSKIY (1917-1926)
Mikhail Ivanovich KALININ (1919-1946)
Yakov SVERDLOV (1918-1919)
Yelena STASOVA (1917-1918, 1919)
Yevgeniy PREOBRAZHENSKIY (1917-1918, 1920-1921)
Yan RUDZUTAK (1926-1932, 1934-1938)
Stanislav KOSIOR (1927-1939)
Vlas CHUBAR (1926-1938)


"Open bolsheviks":
Lev Rozenfeld KAMENEV (1917-1926)
Grigoriy Radomyslskiy ZINOVYEV (1917-1926)
Nikolay BUKHARIN (1917-1929)
Aleksey RYKOV (1922-1930)
Mikhail TOMSKIY (1922-1930)
Nikolay KRESTINSKIY (1917-1921)
Mikhail FRUNZE (1924-1925)
Grigoriy Brilliant SOKOLNIKOV (1917-1919)
Karl RADEK (-)
Mikhail TUKHACHEVSKIY (-)


"Stalinists":
Iosif Dzhugashvili STALIN (1917-1953)
Vyacheslav Skryabin MOLOTOV (1921-1957)
Kliment VOROSHILOV (1926-1960)
Lazar KAGANOVICH (1926-1957)
Feliks DZERZHINSKIY (1918-1919, 1924-1926)
Andrey ZHDANOV (1935-1948)
Nikolay YEZHOV (1937-1938)
Andrey ANDREYEV (1926-1930, 1932-1952)
Lavrentiy BERIYA (1939-1953)
Andrey VYSHINSKIY (1952-1953)
Pavel POSTYSHEV (1934-1938)
Genrikh YAGODA (-)


"Open stalinists":
Georgiy MALENKOV (1941-1957)
Nikolay BULGANIN (1946-1958)
Anastas MIKOYAN (1926-1966)
Dmitriy SHEPILOV (1956-1957)
Sergey Kostrikov KIROV (1926-1934)
Maksim SABUROV (1952-1957)
Mikhail PERVUKHIN (1952-1961)
Nikolay VOZNESENSKIY (1941-1949)
Georgiy ZHUKOV (1956-1957)
Grigori Sergo ORDZHONIKIDZE (1930-1937)
Valerian KUYBYSHEV (1927-1935)


"Brezhnevians":
Leonid BREZHNEV (1952-1953, 1957-1982)
Konstantin CHERNENKO (1977-1985)
Nikolay TIKHONOV (1978-1985)
Andrey GROMYKO (1973-1988)
Vasiliy KUZNETSOV (1952-1953, 1977-1986)
Mikhail SUSLOV (1952-1953, 1955-1982)
Dmitriy USTINOV (1965-1984)
Andrey GRECHKO (1973-1976)
Vladimir SHCHERBITSKIY (1961-1963, 1965-1989)
Viktor GRISHIN (1961-1986)
Sharaf RASHIDOV (1961-1983)
Boris PONOMAREV (1972-1986)


"Modern conservatives":
Aleksey KOSYGIN (1946-1953, 1957-1980)
Andrey KIRILENKO (1957-1961, 1962-1982)
Grigoriy ROMANOV (1973-1985)
Nikolay RYZHKOV (1985-1990)
Gennadiy YANAYEV (1990-1991)
Anatoliy LUKYANOV (1988-1990)
Yegor LIGACHEV (1985-1990)
Lev ZAYKOV (1986-1990)
Viktor CHEBRIKOV (1983-1989)
Vladimir KRYUCHKOV (1989-1990)
Heidar ALIYEV (1976-1987)
Pyotr SHELEST (1963-1973)
Valentin PAVLOV (-)


"Khrushchevians":
Nikita Sergeyevich KHRUSHCHEV (1938-1964)
Yuriy ANDROPOV (1967-1984)
Nikolay PODGORNIY (1958-1977)
Nikolay SHVERNIK (1939-1966)
Aleksandr SHELEPIN (1964-1975)
Frol KOZLOV (1956-1964)
Fyodor KULAKOV (1971-1978)
Dmitriy POLYANSKIY (1958-1976)
Otto KUUSINEN (1952-1953, 1957-1964)
Mikhail GORBACHEV (1979-1991)
Aleksandr YAKOVLEV (1987-1990)
Eduard SHEVARDNADZE (1978-1990)
Boris YELTSIN (1986-1988)

Results:

Round 1:
Kosior 1.67, Lenin 1.33, Trotskiy 1.33, Kalinin 0.67, Sverdlov 0.67, Chubar 0.33
Krestinskiy 1.33 (+ GenSek's decision), Frunze 1.33, Zinovyev 1.33, Kamenev 0.67, Rykov 0.67, Bukharin 0.33, Sokolnikov 1
Stalin 3.33, Yezhov 1, Postyshev 0.67, Beriya 0.33, Kaganovich 0.33, Yagoda 0.33
Zhukov 1.67 (+ GenSek's decision), Mikoyan 1.67, Bulganin 1, Malenkov 0.67, Kuybyshev 0.33, Ordzhonikidze 0.33, Shepilov 0.33
Chernenko 2.67, Brezhnev 1.33, Gromylo 0.67, Shcherbitskiy 0.67, Rashidov 0.33, Suslov 0.33
Yanayev 1.33 (+ GenSek's decision), Aliyev 1.33, Kirilenko 1.33, Kosygin 1.33, Pavlov 0.67, Ryzhkov 0.33
Shvernik 2.67, Polyanskiy 1.67, Khrushchev 0.67, Yeltsin 0.67, Andropov 0.33


Rules are different in each round: please read the rules before voting.
The Politburo member who receives the biggest total of votes or points is purged.
In case of a tie, the Politburo member who has received the biggest total of previous votes is purged.
In case of a new tie, I, GenSek of this survivor, decide who is purged.

ROUND 2 IS OPEN !

Beware !In this round, you vote for 2 Politburo members to eliminate and 1 Politburo member to keep in EACH group.
We'll purge 1 Politburo member in each group.
Beware !

[big bad fab]

Bolsheviks:
Eliminate: Lenin - Stasova (yep, I change a bit... Stasova is uninteresting)
Keep: Sverdlov (just a tactical vote)

Open bolsheviks:
Eliminate: Zinovyev - Kamenev (well, you can't cut the pair )
Keep: Frunze (not a great one, but an original mind in a way)

Stalinists:
Eliminate: Yezhov - Yagoda (what a fine duet !)
Keep: Beriya (my hero !

Open stalinists:
Eliminate: Mikoyan - Saburov (those minor bureaucrats bore me)
Keep: Ordzhonikidze (Sergo is so pittoresque in Stalin'slandscape...)

Brezhnevians:
Eliminate: Rashidov - Tikhonov (corrupted and grey)
Keep: Suslov (you can't oust this mastermind so early !)

Modern conservatives:
Eliminate: Aliyev - Pavlov (let's keep ousting opportunistic and boring ones)
Keep: Kirilenko (another hero ! )

Khrushchevians:
Eliminate: Polianskiy - Khrushchev (well, he was so loyal to Stalin...)
Keep: Andropov (in case he is threatened)

[Hans-im-Glück]

Bolsheviks
Eliminate:   Mikhail Ivanovich KALININ, Yelena STASOVA
Keep:   Vladimir Ulyanov LENIN

Open Bolsheviks
Eliminate:   Grigoriy Radomyslskiy ZINOVYEV, Mikhail FRUNZE
Keep:   Karl RADEK

Stalinists
Eliminate:   Lavrentiy BERIYA, Nikolay YEZHOV
Keep:    Andrey ZHDANOV

Open Stalinists
Eliminate:   Anastas MIKOYAN, Maksim SABUROV
Keep:   Sergey Kostrikov KIROV 

Brezhnevians
Eliminate:   Andrey GROMYKO, Leonid BREZHNEV
Keep:   Nikolay TIKHONOV

Modern conservatives
Eliminate:    Heidar ALIYEV, Andrey KIRILENKO
Keep:    Valentin PAVLOV

Khrushchevians
Eliminate:   Dmitriy POLYANSKIY, Nikita Sergeyevich KHRUSHCHEV
Keep:   Yuriy ANDROPOV

[Edu]

Bolsheviks
Eliminate
Yakov SVERDLOV
Yelena STASOVA

Keep
Vladimir Ulyanov LENIN

Open Bolsheviks
Eliminate
Mikhail FRUNZE
Grigoriy Radomyslskiy ZINOVYEV

Keep
Lev Rozenfeld KAMENEV

Stalinists
Eliminate
Pavel POSTYSHEV
Nikolay YEZHOV

Keep
Genrikh YAGODA

Open Stalinists
Eliminate
Anastas MIKOYAN
Valerian KUYBYSHEV

Keep
Maksim SABUROV

Brezhnevians
Eliminate
Vladimir SHCHERBITSKIY
Sharaf RASHIDOV

Keep
Leonid BREZHNEV

Modern conservatives
Eliminate
Andrey KIRILENKO
Heidar ALIYEV

Keep
Valentin PAVLOV

Khrushchevians
Eliminate
Dmitriy POLYANSKIY
Aleksandr SHELEPIN

Keep
Nikita Sergeyevich KHRUSHCHEV

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Bolsheviks
Elimenate: TROTSKIY and KALININ
Keep: LENIN

Open Bolsheviks
Elimenate: SOKOLNIKOV and KAMENEV
Keep: ZINOVYEV

Stalinists
Elimenate: BERIYA and POSTYSHEV
Keep: DZERZHINSKIY (It would be a shame to elimenate such an interesting and infamous character so early)

Open Stalinists
Elimenate: SABUROV and VOZNESENSKIY
Keep: MIKOYAN

Brezhnevians
Elimenate: SHCHERBITSKIY and GRECHKO
Keep: RASHIDOV (how many Uzbeks are there in the Soviet Hirearchy? )

Modern conservatives
Elimenate: KIRILENKO and PAVLOV (elimenate the Coup leaders!)
Keep: ALIYEV (tactical vote)

Khrushchevians
Elimenate: POLYANSKIY and KUUSINEN (it's just too soon to elimenate the shoe-banger)
Keep: YAKOVLEV  (in case he comes under attack)








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[big bad fab]

OMG, already Kirilenko, Shelepin (shame on you, Edu ) and Beriya threatened !

Help me, Kal !

[big bad fab]

Well, I'm a bit disappointed Kal (and others, of course) didn't vote in this round...

Again 2 ties for me to solve... You could think I really protect Kirilenko but, still, I see him as more important in the political history of the Soviet Union. Aliyev was of course essential to Azerbaïdjan's history, but he wasn't a big guy before 1982 and, after the death of Andropov, he has quickly been sidelined, being not a Brezhnevian and then being a corrupt conservative under Gorbachev.
As for Mikoyan, I again save him against grey Saburov.
With more votes in now, we should avoid these ties in the following rounds.



"Bolsheviks":
Vladimir Ulyanov LENIN (1917-1924)
Lev Bronstein TROTSKIY (1917-1926)
Mikhail Ivanovich KALININ (1919-1946)
Yakov SVERDLOV (1918-1919)
Yelena STASOVA (1917-1918, 1919)
Yevgeniy PREOBRAZHENSKIY (1917-1918, 1920-1921)
Yan RUDZUTAK (1926-1932, 1934-1938)
Stanislav KOSIOR (1927-1939)
Vlas CHUBAR (1926-1938)


"Open bolsheviks":
Lev Rozenfeld KAMENEV (1917-1926)
Grigoriy Radomyslskiy ZINOVYEV (1917-1926)
Nikolay BUKHARIN (1917-1929)
Aleksey RYKOV (1922-1930)
Mikhail TOMSKIY (1922-1930)
Nikolay KRESTINSKIY (1917-1921)
Mikhail FRUNZE (1924-1925)
Grigoriy Brilliant SOKOLNIKOV (1917-1919)
Karl RADEK (-)
Mikhail TUKHACHEVSKIY (-)


"Stalinists":
Iosif Dzhugashvili STALIN (1917-1953)
Vyacheslav Skryabin MOLOTOV (1921-1957)
Kliment VOROSHILOV (1926-1960)
Lazar KAGANOVICH (1926-1957)
Feliks DZERZHINSKIY (1918-1919, 1924-1926)
Andrey ZHDANOV (1935-1948)
Nikolay YEZHOV (1937-1938)
Andrey ANDREYEV (1926-1930, 1932-1952)
Lavrentiy BERIYA (1939-1953)
Andrey VYSHINSKIY (1952-1953)
Pavel POSTYSHEV (1934-1938)
Genrikh YAGODA (-)


"Open stalinists":
Georgiy MALENKOV (1941-1957)
Nikolay BULGANIN (1946-1958)
Anastas MIKOYAN (1926-1966)
Dmitriy SHEPILOV (1956-1957)
Sergey Kostrikov KIROV (1926-1934)
Maksim SABUROV (1952-1957)
Mikhail PERVUKHIN (1952-1961)
Nikolay VOZNESENSKIY (1941-1949)
Georgiy ZHUKOV (1956-1957)
Grigori Sergo ORDZHONIKIDZE (1930-1937)
Valerian KUYBYSHEV (1927-1935)


"Brezhnevians":
Leonid BREZHNEV (1952-1953, 1957-1982)
Konstantin CHERNENKO (1977-1985)
Nikolay TIKHONOV (1978-1985)
Andrey GROMYKO (1973-1988)
Vasiliy KUZNETSOV (1952-1953, 1977-1986)
Mikhail SUSLOV (1952-1953, 1955-1982)
Dmitriy USTINOV (1965-1984)
Andrey GRECHKO (1973-1976)
Vladimir SHCHERBITSKIY (1961-1963, 1965-1989)
Viktor GRISHIN (1961-1986)
Sharaf RASHIDOV (1961-1983)
Boris PONOMAREV (1972-1986)


"Modern conservatives":
Aleksey KOSYGIN (1946-1953, 1957-1980)
Andrey KIRILENKO (1957-1961, 1962-1982)
Grigoriy ROMANOV (1973-1985)
Nikolay RYZHKOV (1985-1990)
Gennadiy YANAYEV (1990-1991)
Anatoliy LUKYANOV (1988-1990)
Yegor LIGACHEV (1985-1990)
Lev ZAYKOV (1986-1990)
Viktor CHEBRIKOV (1983-1989)
Vladimir KRYUCHKOV (1989-1990)
Heidar ALIYEV (1976-1987)
Pyotr SHELEST (1963-1973)
Valentin PAVLOV (-)


"Khrushchevians":
Nikita Sergeyevich KHRUSHCHEV (1938-1964)
Yuriy ANDROPOV (1967-1984)
Nikolay PODGORNIY (1958-1977)
Nikolay SHVERNIK (1939-1966)
Aleksandr SHELEPIN (1964-1975)
Frol KOZLOV (1956-1964)
Fyodor KULAKOV (1971-1978)
Dmitriy POLYANSKIY (1958-1976)
Otto KUUSINEN (1952-1953, 1957-1964)
Mikhail GORBACHEV (1979-1991)
Aleksandr YAKOVLEV (1987-1990)
Eduard SHEVARDNADZE (1978-1990)
Boris YELTSIN (1986-1988)

Results:

Round 1:
Kosior 1.67, Lenin 1.33, Trotskiy 1.33, Kalinin 0.67, Sverdlov 0.67, Chubar 0.33
Krestinskiy 1.33 (+ GenSek's decision), Frunze 1.33, Zinovyev 1.33, Kamenev 0.67, Rykov 0.67, Bukharin 0.33, Sokolnikov 1
Stalin 3.33, Yezhov 1, Postyshev 0.67, Beriya 0.33, Kaganovich 0.33, Yagoda 0.33
Zhukov 1.67 (+ GenSek's decision), Mikoyan 1.67, Bulganin 1, Malenkov 0.67, Kuybyshev 0.33, Ordzhonikidze 0.33, Shepilov 0.33
Chernenko 2.67, Brezhnev 1.33, Gromylo 0.67, Shcherbitskiy 0.67, Rashidov 0.33, Suslov 0.33
Yanayev 1.33 (+ GenSek's decision), Aliyev 1.33, Kirilenko 1.33, Kosygin 1.33, Pavlov 0.67, Ryzhkov 0.33
Shvernik 2.67, Polyanskiy 1.67, Khrushchev 0.67, Yeltsin 0.67, Andropov 0.33

Round 2:
Stasova 1.5, Kalinin 1, Troskiy 0.5, Sverdlov 0.5 (-1), Lenin 0.5 (-3)
Zinovyev 1.5, Frunze 1 (-1), Kamenev 1 (-1), Sokolnikov 0.5, Radek 0 (-1)
Yezhov 1.5, Postyshev 1, Beriya 1 (-1), Yagoda 0.5 (-1), Dzerzhinskiy 0 (-1), Zhdanov 0 (-1)
Saburov 1.5 (-1 + GenSek's decision), Mikoyan 1.5 (-1), Kuybyshev 0.5, Voznesenskiy 0.5, Kirov 0 (-1), Ordzhonikidze 0 (-1)
Shcherbitskiy 1 (0), Rashidov 1 (-1), Grechko 0.5, Gromyko 0.5, Brezhnev 0.5 (-1), Tikhonov 0.5 (-1), Suslov 0 (-1)
Aliyev 1.5 (-1 + GenSek's decision), Kirilenko 1.5 (-1), Pavlov 1 (-2)
Polyanskiy 2, Khrushchev 1 (-1), Kuusinen 0.5, Shelepin 0.5, Yakovlev 0 (-1), Andropov 0 (-2)


Rules are different in each round: please read the rules before voting.
The Politburo member who receives the biggest total of votes or points is purged.
In case of a tie, the Politburo member who has received the biggest total of previous votes is purged.
In case of a new tie, I, GenSek of this survivor, decide who is purged.

ROUND 3 IS OPEN !

Beware !In this round, you vote for 1 Politburo member to eliminate in EACH group.
We'll purge 1 Politburo member in each group.
Beware !

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Sverdlov
Kamenev
Kaganovich
Shepilov
Brezhnev
Palvov
Gorbachev

[big bad fab]

Just to be sure it's clear (I should have said it before, sorry):
the "keep" votes will count only to break a tie during the round, I won't take them into account as previous votes in the following rounds (except if there is a new tie: then, they'll count).
So, they are a bit less important than in the other survivor.

Bolsheviks:
Lenin
(I know my vote is doomed, but I keep on voting because he was "overvalued" and because, "kremlinologically" speaking, he isn't very interesting)

Open bolsheviks:
Kamenev
(after Zinovyev, it's logical; and the others in this group are pretty interesting guys; and I try to oust the most opportunistic)

Stalinists:
Yagoda
(after Yezhov, another bureaucratic and not-at-all bright evil)

Open stalinists:
Mikoyan
(Pervukhin, after Saburov, is tempting, but I have a big distaste for opportunistic Mikoyan)

Brezhnevians:
Rashidov
(corrupt, autocratical, moronic)

Modern conservatives:
Pavlov
(minor, ridiculous, inefficient)

Khrushchevians:
Khrushchev
(overvalued, stalinist and murderous when it was fit to be so; and the others in this group, except maybe Kuusinen, are more interesting)

[Hans-im-Glück]

Yakov SVERDLOV
Mikhail FRUNZE
Lavrentiy BERIYA
Anastas MIKOYAN
Andrey GROMYKO
Andrey KIRILENKO
Nikita Sergeyevich KHRUSHCHEV

[Edu]

Bolsheviks
Yakov SVERDLOV

Open bolsheviks
Mikhail FRUNZE

Stalinists
Pavel POSTYSHEV

Open stalinists
Anastas MIKOYAN

Brezhnevians
Sharaf RASHIDOV

Modern conservatives
Valentin PAVLOV (Happy now Fab? )

Khrushchevians
Aleksandr SHELEPIN

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Bolsheviks
KALININ

Open Bolsheviks
KAMENEV

Stalinists
BERIYA

Open Stalinists
VOZNESENSKIY

Brezhnevians
BREZHNEV (tactical vote)

Modern conservatives
KIRILENKO

Khrushchevians
KUUSINEN (boring, never banged shoes at the U.N. )








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[big bad fab]

Dear Mr.X,
Shcherbitsky is already out.
Do you vote for Gretchko (your other choice in this group during the previous round) ?


To all of you:
BTW, soon, I'll reduce the number of votes in each round, so that it's a bit easier for you to vote...
On the other hand, for the moment, I don't update this survivor for at least 48 hours, so that you've got time to think if you want.

Thanks again for voting in it.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Dear Mr.X,
Shcherbitsky is already out.
Do you vote for Gretchko (your other choice in this group during the previous round) ?


To all of you:
BTW, soon, I'll reduce the number of votes in each round, so that it's a bit easier for you to vote...
On the other hand, for the moment, I don't update this survivor for at least 48 hours, so that you've got time to think if you want.

Thanks again for voting in it.

Fixed, thanks for letting me know

[big bad fab]

Only one tie, but resolved by previous votes, that's a good thing...
A big defeat for me, as Beriya is gone , even before stupid Yagoda, Kaganovich and Andreyev...
Of course, Kirilenko and Shelepin are still here but I'm still sad


"Bolsheviks":
Vladimir Ulyanov LENIN (1917-1924)
Lev Bronstein TROTSKIY (1917-1926)
Mikhail Ivanovich KALININ (1919-1946)
Yakov SVERDLOV (1918-1919)
Yelena STASOVA (1917-1918, 1919)
Yevgeniy PREOBRAZHENSKIY (1917-1918, 1920-1921)
Yan RUDZUTAK (1926-1932, 1934-1938)
Stanislav KOSIOR (1927-1939)
Vlas CHUBAR (1926-1938)


"Open bolsheviks":
Lev Rozenfeld KAMENEV (1917-1926)
Grigoriy Radomyslskiy ZINOVYEV (1917-1926)
Nikolay BUKHARIN (1917-1929)
Aleksey RYKOV (1922-1930)
Mikhail TOMSKIY (1922-1930)
Nikolay KRESTINSKIY (1917-1921)
Mikhail FRUNZE (1924-1925)
Grigoriy Brilliant SOKOLNIKOV (1917-1919)
Karl RADEK (-)
Mikhail TUKHACHEVSKIY (-)


"Stalinists":
Iosif Dzhugashvili STALIN (1917-1953)
Vyacheslav Skryabin MOLOTOV (1921-1957)
Kliment VOROSHILOV (1926-1960)
Lazar KAGANOVICH (1926-1957)
Feliks DZERZHINSKIY (1918-1919, 1924-1926)
Andrey ZHDANOV (1935-1948)
Nikolay YEZHOV (1937-1938)
Andrey ANDREYEV (1926-1930, 1932-1952)
Lavrentiy BERIYA (1939-1953)
Andrey VYSHINSKIY (1952-1953)
Pavel POSTYSHEV (1934-1938)
Genrikh YAGODA (-)


"Open stalinists":
Georgiy MALENKOV (1941-1957)
Nikolay BULGANIN (1946-1958)
Anastas MIKOYAN (1926-1966)
Dmitriy SHEPILOV (1956-1957)
Sergey Kostrikov KIROV (1926-1934)
Maksim SABUROV (1952-1957)
Mikhail PERVUKHIN (1952-1961)
Nikolay VOZNESENSKIY (1941-1949)
Georgiy ZHUKOV (1956-1957)
Grigori Sergo ORDZHONIKIDZE (1930-1937)
Valerian KUYBYSHEV (1927-1935)


"Brezhnevians":
Leonid BREZHNEV (1952-1953, 1957-1982)
Konstantin CHERNENKO (1977-1985)
Nikolay TIKHONOV (1978-1985)
Andrey GROMYKO (1973-1988)
Vasiliy KUZNETSOV (1952-1953, 1977-1986)
Mikhail SUSLOV (1952-1953, 1955-1982)
Dmitriy USTINOV (1965-1984)
Andrey GRECHKO (1973-1976)
Vladimir SHCHERBITSKIY (1961-1963, 1965-1989)
Viktor GRISHIN (1961-1986)
Sharaf RASHIDOV (1961-1983)
Boris PONOMAREV (1972-1986)


"Modern conservatives":
Aleksey KOSYGIN (1946-1953, 1957-1980)
Andrey KIRILENKO (1957-1961, 1962-1982)
Grigoriy ROMANOV (1973-1985)
Nikolay RYZHKOV (1985-1990)
Gennadiy YANAYEV (1990-1991)
Anatoliy LUKYANOV (1988-1990)
Yegor LIGACHEV (1985-1990)
Lev ZAYKOV (1986-1990)
Viktor CHEBRIKOV (1983-1989)
Vladimir KRYUCHKOV (1989-1990)
Heidar ALIYEV (1976-1987)
Pyotr SHELEST (1963-1973)
Valentin PAVLOV (-)


"Khrushchevians":
Nikita Sergeyevich KHRUSHCHEV (1938-1964)
Yuriy ANDROPOV (1967-1984)
Nikolay PODGORNIY (1958-1977)
Nikolay SHVERNIK (1939-1966)
Aleksandr SHELEPIN (1964-1975)
Frol KOZLOV (1956-1964)
Fyodor KULAKOV (1971-1978)
Dmitriy POLYANSKIY (1958-1976)
Otto KUUSINEN (1952-1953, 1957-1964)
Mikhail GORBACHEV (1979-1991)
Aleksandr YAKOVLEV (1987-1990)
Eduard SHEVARDNADZE (1978-1990)
Boris YELTSIN (1986-1988)

Results:

Round 1:
Kosior 1.67, Lenin 1.33, Trotskiy 1.33, Kalinin 0.67, Sverdlov 0.67, Chubar 0.33
Krestinskiy 1.33 (+ GenSek's decision), Frunze 1.33, Zinovyev 1.33, Kamenev 0.67, Rykov 0.67, Bukharin 0.33, Sokolnikov 1
Stalin 3.33, Yezhov 1, Postyshev 0.67, Beriya 0.33, Kaganovich 0.33, Yagoda 0.33
Zhukov 1.67 (+ GenSek's decision), Mikoyan 1.67, Bulganin 1, Malenkov 0.67, Kuybyshev 0.33, Ordzhonikidze 0.33, Shepilov 0.33
Chernenko 2.67, Brezhnev 1.33, Gromylo 0.67, Shcherbitskiy 0.67, Rashidov 0.33, Suslov 0.33
Yanayev 1.33 (+ GenSek's decision), Aliyev 1.33, Kirilenko 1.33, Kosygin 1.33, Pavlov 0.67, Ryzhkov 0.33
Shvernik 2.67, Polyanskiy 1.67, Khrushchev 0.67, Yeltsin 0.67, Andropov 0.33

Round 2:
Stasova 1.5, Kalinin 1, Troskiy 0.5, Sverdlov 0.5 (-1), Lenin 0.5 (-3)
Zinovyev 1.5, Frunze 1 (-1), Kamenev 1 (-1), Sokolnikov 0.5, Radek 0 (-1)
Yezhov 1.5, Postyshev 1, Beriya 1 (-1), Yagoda 0.5 (-1), Dzerzhinskiy 0 (-1), Zhdanov 0 (-1)
Saburov 1.5 (-1 + GenSek's decision), Mikoyan 1.5 (-1), Kuybyshev 0.5, Voznesenskiy 0.5, Kirov 0 (-1), Ordzhonikidze 0 (-1)
Shcherbitskiy 1 (0), Rashidov 1 (-1), Grechko 0.5, Gromyko 0.5, Brezhnev 0.5 (-1), Tikhonov 0.5 (-1), Suslov 0 (-1)
Aliyev 1.5 (-1 + GenSek's decision), Kirilenko 1.5 (-1), Pavlov 1 (-2)
Polyanskiy 2, Khrushchev 1 (-1), Kuusinen 0.5, Shelepin 0.5, Yakovlev 0 (-1), Andropov 0 (-2)

Round 3:
Sverdlov 3, Kalinin 1, Lenin 1
Kamenev 3, Frunze 2
Beriya 1, Kaganovich 1, Postyshev 1, Yagoda 1
Mikoyan 3, Shepilov, Voznesensky 1
Brezhnev 2 (1.83 previous vote), Rashidov 2 (1.33 previous vote), Gromyko 1
Pavlov 3, Kirilenko 2
Khrushchev 2, Gorbachev 1, Kuusinen 1, Shelepin 1


Rules are different in each round: please read the rules before voting.
The Politburo member who receives the biggest total of votes or points is purged.
In case of a tie, the Politburo member who has received the biggest total of previous votes is purged.
In case of a new tie, I, GenSek of this survivor, decide who is purged.

ROUND 4 IS OPEN !

Beware !In this round, you have 5 points to cast 2-2-1 between 3 different Politburo members in EACH group.
We'll purge 1 Politburo member in each group.
Beware !

[big bad fab]

Bolsheviks:
2 Lenin, 2 Kalinin, 1 Trotskiy
(I've already said what I think of them)

Open bolsheviks:
2 Frunze, 2 Sokolnikov, 1 Tukhachevskiy
(2 "boring" ones and 1 not-so-good marshal)

Stalinists:
2 Yagoda, 2 Vyshinskiy, 1 Kaganovich
(the least bright in this group)

Open stalinists:
2 Pervukhin, 2 Shepilov, 1 Voznesenskiy
(minor and technocratic guys)

Brezhnevians:
2 Rashidov, 2 Tikhonov, 1 Kuznetsov
(corrupt, grey, stupid ones)

Modern conservatives:
2 Chebrikov, 2 Kryuchkov, 1 Kosygin
(2 KGB men and coup-mongers and 1 fake reformist, harsh in foreign policy and overvalued)

Khrushchevians:
2 Kuusinen, 2 Podgorniy, 1 Kozlov
(khrushchevians but not great reformists...)